Rape By Migrants Isn't As Bad.

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

I seriously doubt the current Muslim rape epidemic in Germany was caused by WW2.

 

No, that would be one of the crimes committed by the Germans that was worse.  And let's be brutally honest here, it was pretty bad.  What's a little 21st Century rape compared to a 20th century bombing campaign that killed thousands, eh?

 

 

[DogOnPorch]

The claim here by one of our esteemed members is that Germany brought this upon itself. I am unaware of Germany's Blitzkrieg campaign in the Levant during WW2. Perhaps someone could enlighten me on this area of history I'm unfamiliar with.

[Guest]

I took the claim to be that whatever is happening in Germany right now, they've done worse, and it was all our policies that brought this on. 

Nevertheless, the one blameless group in all this seem to be the people actually committing the cimes.  Makes sense.

Edited November 3, 2016 by bcsapper
a typographical error

[DogOnPorch]

...and we wonder why Americans get all narrow-eyed when some do-gooder wants to trash the Second Amendment.

[Argus]

3 hours ago, bcsapper said:

 

No, that would be one of the crimes committed by the Germans that was worse.  And let's be brutally honest here, it was pretty bad.  What's a little 21st Century rape compared to a 20th century bombing campaign that killed thousands, eh?

And in what way is WW2 in any way related to the situation today?

[Argus]

10 hours ago, Altai said:

I think its still much more less than the crimes committed by Germany in other countries. This is the result of your own policies. 

What crimes? If you want to get into historical crimes would you like to examine the millions slaughtered by the Ottoman Empire your glorious Sultan is trying to rebuild? Is it okay for Armenians to rape you because of how you Turks slaughtered their grandparents?

Edited November 3, 2016 by Argus

[Guest]

35 minutes ago, Argus said:

And in what way is WW2 in any way related to the situation today?

It isn't.  You have to go back to the quote I was responding to.  The same one you did above this post, as it happens.

[taxme]

On 7/8/2016 at 3:16 AM, betsy said:

It must be true that there's an influx of rape going on in some hot spots in Europe.

Otherwise, why would this feminist Swedish MP make such a statement that actually tries to give excuses to rapes committed by MUSLIM migrants?

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/214479

Liberals can be such boneheads. Sweden has a high rate of rapes being committed by muslims. But just like if the same thing were happening in Canada, the media would not report it as they fear it would cause a backlash by the host people of that country. So, let the rapes continue, and the heck with women. The liberal lame duck media in all western countries are all the same? They refuse to tell the people the truth. Why and who is trying to keep what is really going on? Personally, it is the same old gang of globalist elite zionists that in my opinion are behind it all. They want all the western countries in the world to be flooded by the non-white world, and telling the host people the truth about what some new immigrants are committing as to be kept a big secret. Wouldn't want the natives to get restless and wake up, eh?   

[DogOnPorch]

1 hour ago, bcsapper said:

It isn't.  You have to go back to the quote I was responding to.  The same one you did above this post, as it happens.

ISIS and like groups would give the Einsatzgruppen a run for their money re: brutality.

[Altai]

3 hours ago, Argus said:

What crimes? If you want to get into historical crimes would you like to examine the millions slaughtered by the Ottoman Empire your glorious Sultan is trying to rebuild? Is it okay for Armenians to rape you because of how you Turks slaughtered their grandparents?

Western history is full of crimes and your countries still committing crimes. For example US murdered 30 civilians today in Afghanistan as a response to two US soldiers killed by Taliban. This terrorism wont leave your foot in the future, you will be judged and punished for every single terrorism actions your countries commit.

Keep lying about my country, we dont care and this drives you mad : )))

[DogOnPorch]

Turkey/Ottoman Empire is responsible not only for igniting WW1 in the Middle East but the Armenian Genocide.

Millions dead.

And if one wishes to go back in time, the Ottoman Empire has a non-stop track record of warfare, Imperialism and conquest.

Edited November 3, 2016 by DogOnPorch

[Altai]

1 hour ago, DogOnPorch said:

Turkey/Ottoman Empire is responsible not only for igniting WW1 in the Middle East but the Armenian Genocide.

Millions dead.

And if one wishes to go back in time, the Ottoman Empire has a non-stop track record of warfare, Imperialism and conquest.

A Turkish verb, "The dogs bark but the caravan passes on". 

We dont care about barking dogs, our caravan keeps going on its way. 

[DogOnPorch]

Dogs are unclean, after-all. The Prophet said so.

You're free to ignore your nation's own vile history.

 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, DogOnPorch said:

ISIS and like groups would give the Einsatzgruppen a run for their money re: brutality.

Sure would, but as my sig used to say "Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction." - Blaise Pascal

Perhaps not efficiency.

[DogOnPorch]

The Einsatzgruppen were disbanded in favor of gas chambers as the SS complained about what it was doing to their troops PTSD-wise.

[Guest]

I wonder if being brutal due to religious conviction helps avoid the PTSD thing.

[DogOnPorch]

1 hour ago, bcsapper said:

I wonder if being brutal due to religious conviction helps avoid the PTSD thing.

It must...as the old Robert E. Lee quote goes...

It is well that war is so terrible — lest we should grow too fond of it.

...doesn't seem to apply. These guys do it with a smile on their faces.

[Michael Hardner]

Thread drift... stop it please.

[kimmy]

On 11/2/2016 at 4:10 PM, GostHacked said:

The more instability that takes place in the M.E, the more mass migration you will see. However the powers that be, don't seem to have the ambition to actually solve the problem. Money is made on the deaths, and as long as that keeps happening, this won't change.

One of the things that came to light during the debacle in Cologne on New Years' Eve is that overwhelming majority of those involved in the sex assaults weren't from the Middle East at all. They were from the "Maghreb" countries-- Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, and Libya.

The migrants who committed these crimes weren't Syrian refugees fleeing war. They were lifestyle tourists. North African Muslims who filed BS refugee claims with Germany because they heard that everybody in Germany gets a big house and a BMW.   Germany rejected over 99% of these refugee claims from "Maghreb" migrants, because they're not actually fleeing war or persecution in their homelands.  And Germany politely asks them to return to their homes, and nothing happens. So Germany has millions of deadbeat Maghreb migrants who were supposed to have gone home but keep lingering anyway, because they'd discovered that between crime and defrauding Germany's generous social programs, being an illegal resident in Germany still beats being home in Morocco.

So trying to blame migrant crime in Germany on war in Syria is a big fat red herring.

 -k

[Bonam]

1 hour ago, kimmy said:

And Germany politely asks them to return to their homes, and nothing happens. So Germany has millions of deadbeat Maghreb migrants who were supposed to have gone home but keep lingering anyway

Which of course is entirely predictable, but is purposefully not foreseen. 

[Altai]

Germany is another Western country which is openly supporting PKK terror organization and whole drug trafficking in Germany is controlled by PKK. So they feed criminals and then they complain about crime rates. 

[Rue]

On 11/3/2016 at 5:55 PM, bcsapper said:

I wonder if being brutal due to religious conviction helps avoid the PTSD thing.

Yes. People with strong delusions and/or extreme religious beliefs can serve as an analgesic to delay or prevent negative behavioural reactions and psychological phenomena that arise on dettachment from an extreme situation including depression and ptsd.

Strong religious beliefs like delusions  can serve as a continuing defensive mechanism or suppression agent.

Its not an accident people turn to religious belief to serve as a healing agent to help them cope with trauma from death, war, crime, illness, etc.

Religion can and does serve as a somatic analgesic and so  could prevent or postpone ptsd .

 How powerful is it ? People with cancer and overhwhelming pain have been found to need less drugs and are better able to control pain and their pulse and breathing if they have strong religious beliefs, and so they can literally live longer.

Shayman, are classic examples of using religious prayer rituals to numb pain and enable the body to cope or heal. What we used to call their savage mumbo jumbo  is now embraced by Western Medicine. Shaymanic rituals have been proven to actually trigger or induce specific physical reactions in the body as effective as certain medications without having negative  side effects, i.e., toxicity to the liver or kidney damage.

Religious beliefs can also  counter or contain depressive thoughts. Depressive thoughts on a prolonged basis cam cause your brain to deplete serotonin, a chemical in the brain  that manages mood stability.

Remember religion  is still  the no.1 drug to prepare soldiers to go into war and stay focused. Unlike drugs or booze it wears off slower and yes if you really believe in religious beliefs strongly i.e., Muslim extremism as taught by Daesh-ISIS, no you don't experience ptsd or regret or remorse after killing innocent people-in fact you feel closer to God, joyous, highly energized.

There are reports of some young people leaving ISIL but so far no definitive studies on their adjustment issues on withdrawal. What we have seen in people who leave cult groups like Hari Krishna, Scientology, the Unification Church (moonies), KKK, are a wide range of post group phenomena and  their desire to soon replace their cult environment  with some other kind of imposed structure or  format. similiar to prisoners who are released from prison and then  commit crimes to return to jail as they unable to function on the outsid.. Not all adjustment disorders are ptsd or even depression. Adjustment disorders of any kind can set off obsessive compulsive, self destructive and addictive behaviours.  

If you are interested just read up on the psychological profile of religious extremists. It will show you why you are probably right although keep in mind each individual has their own particular set of behavioural reactions.

Edited November 5, 2016 by Rue

[betsy]

Here's the latest on Sweden - the poster child for openness.

 

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Sweden’s two year U-Turn: How Liberals' refugee policy turned public AGAINST migrants

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/768733/Sweden-migrants-latest-refugee-policy-demos-report

[marcus]

Two things betsy:

1) Have you ever thought why that it's only Sweden where the rape rate has jumped up so dramatically? Sweden is not the only European country that is letting in migrants. Have you looked into the recent law changes in how rape is defined in Sweden? I mean, seriously, have you thought why are the migrants in Germany and other countries less rapey than Sweden? 

2) The whole Germany Arab 'sex mob' story turned out to be a big lie. Are you going to re-evaluate your thoughts because of another fake news which tries to portray migrants, Muslims in particular, to be the end of the world?

Ref: German police say major newspaper’s story about a rampaging Arab ‘sex mob’ was wrong

Link

Just like many others, your anti-refugee hysteria has been overblown and fueled by often misleading innuendo and rumor circulating on social media. It's the fake and exaggerated news that you desperately search for and spread that is creating things like the Quebec mosque killings and things like this - It is embarrassing to watch humans act this way:

German Judge Theodor Horstkötter sentenced Maik Schneider to eight years in jail. His crime? Lighting an arena rejiggered to accommodate refugees on fire. No one was hurt, but experts say the act  caused about $3.7 million in damage. 

Link

 

[OftenWrong]

1 hour ago, marcus said:

The whole Germany Arab 'sex mob' story turned out to be a big lie.

Sorry, not the whole story. The article you linked closes with -
"Shortly after New Year's Eve 2015, rumors of alleged sexual assaults by large groups of men began to circulate on social media but attracted little attention in the German press and from officials. It was only half a year later that the full extent of the situation became known, with a leaked police report suggesting that there were over 1,200 women assaulted by more than 2,000 men in a number of cities."

Let the excuses for barbaric cultural practices now ensue...

Edited February 22, 2017 by OftenWrong