Yzermandius19 Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, eyeball said: Meaning Trumps friends are still his bigger challenge. Indeed. Who needs friends with enemies as counter-productive as the Demohacks are right now? They will drive even those who dislike Trump into voting for him, because they dislike the Demohacks more, just like they did in 2016, except this time Trump will have an incumbency advantage and booming economy under his administration to run on, on top Democrats driving voters away by doubling down on the derp from 2016. Edited June 1, 2019 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, eyeball said: Meaning Trumps friends are still his bigger challenge. Either way, President Donald Trump has remained remarkably resilient, even reveling in the twisting fits he causes for friends or enemies. A real estate developer from Queens with zero political office experience has managed to enrage and flummox even the most tenured of Capital Hill's partisan hacks, regardless of party membership. Trump is a force that they don't know how to deal with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Either way, President Donald Trump has remained remarkably resilient, even reveling in the twisting fits he causes for friends or enemies. A real estate developer from Queens with zero political office experience has managed to enrage and flummox even the most tenured of Capital Hill's partisan hacks, regardless of party membership. Trump is a force that they don't know how to deal with. By the time they figure out how to deal with Trump, he'll have secured his second term, so might as well tank to prove that their current strategy is doomed to failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 10 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: A real estate developer from Queens with zero political office experience... Trump is a force that they don't know how to deal with. Like the inexperienced Sorcerer's Apprentice he's nothing compared to the forces he's putting into motion. His 'friends' will know what to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 1 minute ago, eyeball said: Like the inexperienced Sorcerer's Apprentice he's nothing compared to the forces he's putting into motion. His 'friends' will know what to do. Trump has already accomplished the most important task...blocking Hillary Clinton from the presidency. Everything else is just gravy..... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 Just now, eyeball said: Like the inexperienced Sorcerer's Apprentice he's nothing compared to the forces he's putting into motion. His 'friends' will know what to do. Lots of inexperienced politicians are formidable, don't sleep on them just because they aren't super experienced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted June 2, 2019 Report Share Posted June 2, 2019 (edited) On 5/31/2019 at 10:48 PM, Yzermandius19 said: Lots of inexperienced politicians are formidable Very very few are as capable of doing the sort of damage Trump can do. It's not even close. That's probably a plus to encourage in many eyes. Edited June 2, 2019 by eyeball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted June 2, 2019 Report Share Posted June 2, 2019 On 5/31/2019 at 10:44 PM, eyeball said: Like the inexperienced Sorcerer's Apprentice he's nothing compared to the forces he's putting into motion. His 'friends' will know what to do. America is at least going in the right direction now: -Appeasement of Iran and NoKo is done -Isis isn't a large country anymore, -rioting & looting isn't commonplace in America anymore, -the economy is booming, -China's trade tactics are meeting new resistance, -the military is getting stronger -Russia isn't flexing their muscles in any new public places (Crimea and Syria started under Obama) since Trump took over. There are a lot of positive changes that have occurred domestically and on the foreign front since Trump took office. Obama's backsliding America has all but vanished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted June 2, 2019 Report Share Posted June 2, 2019 Yes but lefties are still running wild in the streets so there's nothing to be complacent about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 2, 2019 Report Share Posted June 2, 2019 1 hour ago, eyeball said: Yes but lefties are still running wild in the streets so there's nothing to be complacent about. Lefties running wild in the streets is just what Trump needs to get re-elected. Splitting the Democrat party will make this far easier: Quote Hickenlooper booed for saying socialism isn't the answer 2020 Democratic presidential candidate John Hickenlooper receives boos for saying socialism will not beat President Trump in 2020 while speaking at California's Democratic Convention. https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/06/02/john-hickenlooper-socialism-booed-sot-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/this-week-in-politics/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal 9000 Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 5 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Lefties running wild in the streets is just what Trump needs to get re-elected. Splitting the Democrat party will make this far easier: Good grief, that's actually shocking. On one hand Trump is doing a good job, but part of me really wants to see the US try out socialism. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paxamericana Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 39 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said: Good grief, that's actually shocking. On one hand Trump is doing a good job, but part of me really wants to see the US try out socialism. I asked a socialist this before. Name me a country where workers owning the means of production actually worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal 9000 Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 20 minutes ago, paxamericana said: I asked a socialist this before. Name me a country where workers owning the means of production actually worked. Let me guess, they went into a spiel about how those other socialist countries just didn't do it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 7 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Hickenlooper booed for saying socialism isn't the answer 2020 Democratic presidential candidate John Hickenlooper receives boos for saying socialism will not beat President Trump in 2020 while speaking at California's Democratic Convention. Could you imagine if your plane was forced to land somewhere and the Dem Convention was going on in that town? What if you were snowed-in for a week, surrounded by those people, and you had to sleep in a football arena where you were literally surrounded by hundreds of them? What would you do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paxamericana Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Hal 9000 said: Let me guess, they went into a spiel about how those other socialist countries just didn't do it right. Yup and further more some something nebulous about American imperialism whilst dodging the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 2 hours ago, paxamericana said: I asked a socialist this before. Name me a country where workers owning the means of production actually worked. There is no such thing. They either failed or switched gears and became oligarchies. I'm pretty sure workers were worked to the bone in either case. Name me a Canadian or American socialist that is saying this is what we should do too. I mean an actual name and a quote thereof, some something that isn't...nebulous. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 On 6/2/2019 at 2:58 AM, eyeball said: Very very few are as capable of doing the sort of damage Trump can do. It's not even close. That's probably a plus to encourage in many eyes. Lots of former POTUS were capable of doing the sort of damage Trump can do, inexperienced or not. It is close, not sure why you are more worried with Trump than Obama, or Clinton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted June 3, 2019 Report Share Posted June 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said: Lots of former POTUS were capable of doing the sort of damage Trump can do, inexperienced or not. It is close, not sure why you are more worried with Trump than Obama, or Clinton. You were talking about other inexperienced politicians not past presidents. What on Earth is it that compels you people to constantly switch gears like that? Would you even notice if I just started taking about tomatoes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted June 4, 2019 Report Share Posted June 4, 2019 16 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said: Lots of former POTUS were capable of doing the sort of damage Trump can do, inexperienced or not. It is close, not sure why you are more worried with Trump than Obama, or Clinton. Uh...because Obama and Clinton are past tense and Trump is present tense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, BubberMiley said: Uh...because Obama and Clinton are past tense and Trump is present tense? So you are this worried about the damage that can be done any time there is a POTUS in office in the present tense? Or just when it's a Republican POTUS in office during the present? Or just when Trump is presently POTUS? Edited June 5, 2019 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 On 6/3/2019 at 7:13 PM, eyeball said: You were talking about other inexperienced politicians not past presidents. What on Earth is it that compels you people to constantly switch gears like that? Would you even notice if I just started taking about tomatoes? Before Clinton and Obama were POTUS, they didn't have much political experience, especially Obama, just in case you were unaware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 Surprising to see the Dow Jones doing so well while trade with China is unravelling. It must have to do with the UK Trip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 (edited) 58 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Surprising to see the Dow Jones doing so well while trade with China is unravelling. It must have to do with the UK Trip. It is profitable do more business with your allies and less with your enemies... in America under President Trump. Edited June 6, 2019 by OftenWrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 5 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Surprising to see the Dow Jones doing so well while trade with China is unravelling. It must have to do with the UK Trip. More likely it is due to the Fed hinting at rate cuts if tariffs cause big damage to the U.S. economy. Rates need to go up, but the addiction to low interest rates will be hard to shake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 9 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: More likely it is due to the Fed hinting at rate cuts if tariffs cause big damage to the U.S. economy. Rates need to go up, but the addiction to low interest rates will be hard to shake. Corrections are a good thing, just take your profits as you go, convert your dollars to gold as you deem prudent, and prepare to short when the piper has to be paid, sell high, buy low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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