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Back to POTUS, I don't know which concerns me more, President Trump not being impeached or being impeached. I am reluctant to speculate on the politics of another country, but the US has a great impact on the rest of us.

The Vice President scares me more than Mr. Trump and I worry about the reaction to Mr. Trump's removal by his supporters. My hope is that they would respect the process, but I do feel uneasy. 

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12 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Sheer is not a member of the Party of MacDonald. The real Conservative Party was murdered, stabbed in the back by that vile Judas, Peter MacKay. Sheer leads the Socialist Credit party, called the CPC. (Communist Party of Canada.) I grew up under those thieving bolsheviks in BC and they are worse than the Trotskyites. Ask any former shareholder in BC Electric. 

Indeed it would appear as though the real conservative party was knocked off many decades ago. It would appear as though Bulroney helped to seal the deal on that one. The conservative party of Canada today does not appear to be pro Canadian at all but appears to be more like just another bunch of politically correct puppet on a string gang of anti-Canadian liberal Bolshevik misfits. Politics has become so sad in Canada today. It would appear as though we the people only have two liberal party's to vote for now. Canada has truly been taken over by a bunch of Bolshevik fools alright who have been giving we the people nothing more than a bunch of programs and agendas courtesy of liberalism/socialism and communism. But the zombie Canadians are still asleep at the switch and it would appear as though they will be staying asleep for another few more years or decades. Welcome to the new Khanukistan.

I guess that it is time to look at the new political party that has been formed called the Canadian Nationalist Party and give them some thought about supporting them. Although voting for them in the next election would surely give the liberals a chance of winning the next election so it would not be a good time to join and vote for them right now. After the next election maybe then. It's a thought.

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26 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Ever hear of Randolph Scott or J. Edgar Hoover?

Well, the last I heard about those two queer people was that they were homosexuals. I am pretty sure that gay people do enjoy wearing frilly female lingerie. :D 

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1 hour ago, Boges said:

I'm sure you have views on why Tower 7 collapsed later on in the day and why there are no unedited videos of rockets going to space.

Shipshape organization or not, it was/is one run mostly by Republicans.  

No one has been able to explain as yet as to how that building 7 came tumbling down. One person over heard Silverstein say to a fire chief to "pull it". The fix was in. Believe it or not. :D

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32 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

So you can't see any improprieties. That's alarming. 

There are just so many people in the world who will just not be bothered to go get the other side of the story. They call those people Joe and Mary not so bright lemmings. LOL.

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3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Stay in the debate, or stay out of the debate, the choice is yours. I don't see the point of chiming in and then saying "we shouldn't discuss this".

There are many Canadians who cannot debate at all. And when one tries to have a debate with them and where they then are stuck looking for an answer to your question they will immediately go to where they will start to call someone a racist or anti semitic or antigay or anti-immigrant. That is how they like to debate. The intolerant and bigoted liberals and democrats are great at that. Try to deflect from the topic at hand. Deplorable people.

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1 minute ago, taxme said:

There are many Canadians who cannot debate at all. And when one tries to have a debate with them and where they then are stuck looking for an answer to your question they will immediately go to where they will start to call someone a racist or anti semitic or antigay or anti-immigrant. That is how they like to debate. The intolerant and bigoted liberals and democrats are great at that. Try to deflect from the topic at hand. Deplorable people.

"YOU'RE A RACIST" is their standard answer the second they are presented with facts or stats that run contrary to their narrative. It's like arguing with a child.

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36 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

"YOU'RE A RACIST" is their standard answer the second they are presented with facts or stats that run contrary to their narrative. It's like arguing with a child.

With liberals and democrats we are always having to deal with a bunch of crybaby snowflake spoiled little children. I have asked here many times as to what liberals in Canada have done that has been great for Canada and Canadians and I am still waiting for an answer. Just give me something, I ask. I guess that the reason for that is that they do not know themselves either. Liberals and democrats are just too emotional and intolerable and bigoted and lack any kind of common sense and logic to have to try and deal with. Deplorable people. :D 

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21 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

It will be great fun watching him go to jail, assuming that happens... but not as much fun as it was for his fans to see Hillary lose.  Politics as entertainment is a really bad idea...

That is why we all rely on your warped sense of humor. Just saying. 

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21 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Ah ok.  So the tape was doctored ?  How about the conviction he's about to get ? :D

2. Riiiiight... a NORMAL BUSINESSMAN would hire Omorosa too right ?  

1. So, someone gets convicted of a crime for something every day. It happens every day, silly boy. So, what's your point here, if any?  :rolleyes:

2. Look countess, every employer of every business has hired someone who ended up being bad for their business. Nothing new here, except maybe for you. You really do not know how to think before you speak, eh? Typical silly reply from you.  :unsure: 

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On 8/21/2018 at 1:58 PM, GostHacked said:

Gettin a little  'stormy' now that Manafort admits violating campaign laws,  and .. Cohen surrenders to FBI.  That's gotta make Trump a bit nervous!

 

Trump is not worried at all about anything. Matter of fact Trump enjoys watching this stupid game being played called let's get the president. Trump is cool, man. But it is the democrats who are getting very worried that they will never be able to impeach Trump before the next election. Lap dog Mueller keeps wagging his tail and he keeps hoping that someone will throw him an impeachment doggy bone so as to be able to impeach Trump on something before the next election. Woof-woof. :lol: 

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6 hours ago, Boges said:

I guess. Some would call it strategic voting or voting for the realistic main rival of the person you don't want to win. 

In my view that is wasting your vote. I' vote for who I want to be leader, not who I think will beat the person I do not want to be leader.

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2 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Back to POTUS, I don't know which concerns me more, President Trump not being impeached or being impeached. I am reluctant to speculate on the politics of another country, but the US has a great impact on the rest of us.

The Vice President scares me more than Mr. Trump and I worry about the reaction to Mr. Trump's removal by his supporters. My hope is that they would respect the process, but I do feel uneasy. 

 

Why ?   The Americans have already done this before....Canada's world did not end.     As a matter of record, it was VP Gerald Ford who would eventually get Canada into the G-7 over the objections of France after Richard Nixon resigned in 1974.

This is not America's first rodeo....don't worry so much in Canada.

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5 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

The Clinton's were routinely "embarrassed" going back to Whitewater with crony convictions and/or civil suits settled out of court.

Yes, Bill Clinton was an embarrassment who had the good fortune to be in office during a hot economy.  His behaviour as president was shameful.

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2 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Why ?   The Americans have already done this before....Canada's world did not end.     As a matter of record, it was VP Gerald Ford who would eventually get Canada into the G-7 over the objections of France after Richard Nixon resigned in 1974.

This is not America's first rodeo....don't worry so much in Canada.

While Vice President Pence is a more experienced politician, his views are reported to be more extreme. I am not worried for Canada, just concerned for Americans. The dynamic of President Trump's supporters is different from past Presidents. I can understand their skepticism of any move to remove him. How would that manifest its self?

As I said, as a Canadian, this could be none of my business were it not for my American friends.

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1 minute ago, Queenmandy85 said:

While Vice President Pence is a more experienced politician, his views are reported to be more extreme. I am not worried for Canada, just concerned for Americans. The dynamic of President Trump's supporters is different from past Presidents. I can understand their skepticism of any move to remove him. How would that manifest its self?

 

We are a long way from any articles of impeachment against President Trump, and even if it does happen, they will be the same kind of distraction that was Bill Clinton's impeachment.   Even after all that, no American president has ever been found guilty in the Senate and "removed" from office.

So it would manifest itself with a wimper, just in time for the next presidential election cycle where Americans will do it all over again.

The U.S. has seen all this before....sick presidents...dying presidents...assassinated presidents...impeached presidents...resigned president.   It got so bad for LBJ that he actually went on national television and announced that he would not seek or accept his party's nomination for another term in office.   There is nothing particularly special about President Trump and whatever his fate may be...for him or his supporters.

Like I've been saying for a long time....Donald Trump is just another American president....there will be others that follow him.

 

 

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7 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

While Vice President Pence is a more experienced politician, his views are reported to be more extreme. I am not worried for Canada, just concerned for Americans. The dynamic of President Trump's supporters is different from past Presidents. I can understand their skepticism of any move to remove him. How would that manifest its self?

As I said, as a Canadian, this could be none of my business were it not for my American friends.

Interesting hypothetical. Well it would depend on the reason for his removal. Say if there were strong evidence of Russian Collusion and that Trump was somehow compromised, that is very strong grounds for impeachment. I would wholeheartedly support impeachment as any american should. But if on the other hand, it is only talking to the Russian about Hilary and they tried to impeach him for that then you would essentially see a blood sport in politics following said ouster. Trump's based would get riled up alright, 2020 would be the end of any "moderate" GOP nomination. 

In both scenario however you are left with VP pence who will continue much of Trump's presidential policy so policy wise you won't see a huge difference. If you follow pence he's being groomed for Trump's position in case Trump was removed from office. Pence is pretty much going around the country doing some of Trump's work like speaking at conferences for ICE, North Korea remains transfer, Space force etc...

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The True crime is flipping on Trump. That's what should be made illegal not paying off Pornstars to influence an election. :lol:

Jeffery Toobin put it well this morning. These campaign finance laws are put into place so the voter can know that a candidate is doing stuff like this. It's deception, plain and simple. 

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14 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Um.  His administration has been nothing but a comedy of errors, exemplified by two trusted confederates who were convicted yesterday.

Define comedy of errors. I could say anything is a comedy of errors but that doesn't make it so.

You don't like the low unemployment? The record tax haul that the government is raking in? The fact that Trump bombed Putin's ally twice and made Putin and Assad look like stupid war criminals that got their knuckles rapped? The fact that Trump ended the Korean war? The fact that manufacturing jobs are coming back to the US in droves less than 2 years after Oblahblah said they were gone forever? What's bugging you MH? Pipe up with some facts.

Trump's "confederates" were convicted of several crimes, all but 2 of which happened before they worked for Trump and had nothing to do with Trump.

The ironic part about the 2 "guilty pleas" re: Trump, Cohen pleaded guilty to 2 non-crimes to get his sentence reduced by up to 56 years. Let that sink in for a bit.

If the police have me on up to 62 years in jail time, and they tell me that if I plead guilty to aiding you in committing 2 "crimes" that weren't actually "crimes", I get my sentence reduced by about 56 years do you think I'll take that offer? I can implicate my own mom in that because she won't go to jail for it.

Think about the fact that the FBI is giving someone a "get out of jail 56 years early if you rat on the President for a non-crime" card. If you think that democracy is important you should be mad about that.

Let me explain to you that it's not illegal, it's not a campaign finance violation, for the President to get his mistresses to sign NDAs. Cohen pleaded guilty to two non-crimes MH. 

This is all pretty easy to follow. Anyone that pretends to not understand what's happening here is just being a useful idiot.

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6 hours ago, paxamericana said:

if there were strong evidence of Russian Collusion and that Trump was somehow compromised, that is very strong grounds for impeachment. I would wholeheartedly support impeachment as any american should. But if on the other hand, it is only talking to the Russian about Hilary and they tried to impeach him for that then you would essentially see a blood sport in politics following said ouster.

My concern is that group of supporters who would view any evidence against the President as a conspiracy by the "deep state" to launch a coup. They would see any attempt to remove President Trump as justification to use violence. Sort of like some of the extreme antifa on the left.

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13 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

My concern is that group of supporters who would view any evidence against the President as a conspiracy by the "deep state" to launch a coup. They would see any attempt to remove President Trump as justification to use violence. Sort of like some of the extreme antifa on the left.

Meh not much to worry about. Fringe group are fringe group. Most people are not that extreme. I much prefer to hurt people's ideas through words in a civil society than to physically go out and attack a hilary supporter. 

There is a valid point to be had however that right wing group could do a lot more damage then say antifa because they live in states that typically protect gun rights. People in california and new york just don't have access to the firearm available to say people here in texas. 

A good example of this was in houston, antifa basically wanted to remove sam houston statue a southern confederate and a bunch of right wingers showed up with guns. https://www.chron.com/houston/article/Armed-protesters-at-Hermann-Park-protest-statue-11210583.php

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38 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

My concern is that group of supporters who would view any evidence against the President as a conspiracy by the "deep state" to launch a coup. They would see any attempt to remove President Trump as justification to use violence. Sort of like some of the extreme antifa on the left.

Make no mistake: Mueller's job right now is to be a dark cloud over the Trump presidency, and to give the CNN propaganda machine the occasional burst of ammo, all in an attempt to influence the mid-terms. 

At this point everyone in the free wolrd knows that there was no Trump-Russia collusion, and Mueller is squeezing Trump associates for anything they can get to de-legitimize the presidency.

It's a political hit job that Putin himself would be proud of.

I haven't seen any evidence that Republican supporters are going to be violent like Antifa or BLM, but I do know that Fox News won't be supportive of their violence like CNN is of Antifa/BLM violence.

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I am going out on a limb here. I have not seen anything that meets the threshold for conviction in an impeachment process. My understanding is the high crime or misdemeanour must constitute a threat to the democratic institutions of the republic, not a run of the mill felony.

 

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