Canadians FEAR Trump...Big Time

[Dougie93]

I don't pay that close attention to Trump, he amuses me, I pick up bits and pieces here and there, but most of the time I don't even know what people are talking about, they follow Trump 24rs a day, every single thing he does, I like Trump, but there's not much need to follow closely unless something major is happening.

Thus why I'm more on Ruth Ginsberg Watch, she's got the pancreatic cancer, so she might not even live out the year,  if she croaks, then I'll dial back in for the nom.

SCOTUS at 6-3 is what I'm interested in, Trump is simply a means to that end.

Edited August 27, 2019 by Dougie93

[Boges]

14 hours ago, taxme said:

But where has Trudeau brought down the debt in any significant way? That is the question I asked of you? Why are you trying to compare Americas debt to the Canadian debt? Trump is trying to bring down the American debt. Trudeau is not. Do you honestly believe that Scheer will help bring down the debt? The same Trudeau policies will still be in effect. Scheer will not change a dam thing but will carry on liberal business as usual. If I see Scheer saying things like he will cut back on immigration/refugees, multiculturalism and foreign aid, as Bernier said he would, then I will believe that Scheer is a real and true conservative. 

Conservatives in America are also for protecting the 1st and 2nd Amendments and millions of Americans are against illegal immigration. 

He hasn't that's why he shouldn't be re-elected. 

But again, you've turned a thread about Trump into one about JT. If you can't defend Trump, then stop comparing him to JT. 

You're still not addressing the US debt issues. 

[OftenWrong]

16 hours ago, Boges said:

Any critique of JT regarding debt is completely nullified if you support Trump who, again, has allowed the US debt to skyrocket. 

Amazing how much more heavily taxed we are though, compared to the average in US. Maybe something is wrong up here...

[Michael Hardner]

20 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

Amazing how much more heavily taxed we are though, compared to the average in US. Maybe something is wrong up here...

Underfunded infrastructure, people who are not being treated for health problems... These are some of the ways you can save money.

[OftenWrong]

20 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Underfunded infrastructure, people who are not being treated for health problems... These are some of the ways you can save money.

Many cities have bad roads in Canada, and despite the point we are all equally covered for health care, our system is so badly inefficient that many die due to neglect, their illness diagnosed too late or never at all treatment facilities are booked to the max and the wait for getting a procedure is designed to take you to the limit. You have to almost be dead first.

[dialamah]

47 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

Amazing how much more heavily taxed we are though, compared to the average in US. Maybe something is wrong up here...

According to OECD, Canadians pay less tax than Americans.

Link.

Link 2.

OECD database - do your own comparison.

[OftenWrong]

29 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

These are some of the ways you can save money.

What I mean is, the two countries have arguably the same level of health care. We could compare with data etc., but for most western countries the models of delivery are closely studied and aligned. Talking about the cost to deliver the system is more important. Note my initial remark referred to taxes, this is the point. If we look at other expenses, military spending total and on a per capita basis, the US undoubtedly comes out number one. 

[Michael Hardner]

3 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

What I mean is, the two countries have arguably the same level of health care. 

Let me stop you right there.  No public option, and no health tax for a public option in the USA.

[bush_cheney2004]

9 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Let me stop you right there.  No public option, and no health tax for a public option in the USA.

 

Not true...plenty of public options and taxes...Medicare, Medicaid, VA, and numerous state level programs that include premiums and co-pays.   Employed Americans have Medicare payroll taxes deducted from their paychecks...it is a health care tax.

[Dougie93]

15 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Not true...plenty of public options and taxes...Medicare, Medicaid, VA, and numerous state level programs that include premiums and co-pays.   Employed Americans have Medicare payroll taxes deducted from their paychecks...it is a health care tax.

Canadians socialist healthcare is dependent on American healthcare, it's the Flight to Quality which makes all the innovations, Canada then expects to get a subsidized ride, dining out on American freedom as per usual, thus one of the great fears in Canada is that America is going to say no more free ride, if you don't pay full pop, you wont get the products and services, which would of course cause massive rescission by the insurance companies in Canada, just because OHIP is public, doesn't mean it's not an insurance company.

There's all sorts of rescission in Canada, and there are death panels, my father got rejected by the death panel when he had cancer.

OHIP; "sorry,  no surgery for you, here's some basic palliative care, sayonara"

[bush_cheney2004]

This former Canadian PM Kim Campbell hates Trump so much she wants Hurricane Dorian to directly hit Mar a  Lago in Florida.

 

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‘I’m rooting for a direct hit on Mar a Lago!’ Former Canadian prime minister creates Twitter storm

https://beta.washingtonpost.com/world/2019/08/30/im-rooting-direct-hit-mar-a-lago-former-canadian-pm-creates-twitter-storm/

 

[Dougie93]

Typical Canadian loonie dingbat chirruping from the peanut gallery.

[GostHacked]

On 8/28/2019 at 1:51 PM, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Not true...plenty of public options and taxes...Medicare, Medicaid, VA, and numerous state level programs that include premiums and co-pays.   Employed Americans have Medicare payroll taxes deducted from their paychecks...it is a health care tax.

What happens to those who lose their jobs for whatever reason?

[GostHacked]

On 8/28/2019 at 2:14 PM, Dougie93 said:

Canadians socialist healthcare is dependent on American healthcare, it's the Flight to Quality which makes all the innovations, Canada then expects to get a subsidized ride, dining out on American freedom as per usual, thus one of the great fears in Canada is that America is going to say no more free ride, if you don't pay full pop, you wont get the products and services, which would of course cause massive rescission by the insurance companies in Canada, just because OHIP is public, doesn't mean it's not an insurance company.

There's all sorts of rescission in Canada, and there are death panels, my father got rejected by the death panel when he had cancer.

OHIP; "sorry,  no surgery for you, here's some basic palliative care, sayonara"

This post makes no sense at all.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-healthcare-diabetes-cost/u-s-insulin-costs-per-patient-nearly-doubled-from-2012-to-2016-study-idUSKCN1PG136

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A person with type 1 diabetes incurred annual insulin costs of $5,705, on average, in 2016. The average cost was roughly half that at $2,864 per patient in 2012, according to a report due to be released on Tuesday by the nonprofit Health Care Cost Institute (HCCI).

The figures represent the combined amount paid by a patient and their health plan for the medicine and do not reflect rebates paid at a later date.

The increasing cost of insulin has led some patients to put their own health at risk.

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/insulin-cheaper-canada-americans_ca_5d3e2e49e4b0a6d6374181de

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The U.S., on the other hand, has no regulations on the price of pharmaceuticals like insulin. Opponents of price controls claim they limit drug companies’ abilities to innovate and give consumers fewer options to choose from. Pharmaceutical company Pfizer conducted studies that suggested price controls on drugs would reduce life spans.

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People in the U.S. pay two to six times more than the rest of the world for brand name prescription medicine, according to the International Federation of Health Plans.

Technically, it’s not yet legal federally for Americans to bring drugs from Canada back into their country, but as long as they’re not importing more than 3 months worth, and the drugs aren’t controlled substances like narcotics, border officials and the FDA look the other way. Many states have already passed legislation to allow it.

Canadian drug imports are technically banned because of the belief that pharmaceuticals north of the border don’t face the same rigorous standards those in the south do, though a Senate study acknowledged that standards “are stringent and comparable to US standards.”

The insulin sold in the USA is the same insulin sold here in Canada.  The notion there is a difference in QA control is bullshit.

[bush_cheney2004]

I guess what Kim Campbell did wasn't as bad as stomping on a George W. Bush doll like Carolyn Parrish:

 

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Former prime minister Kim Campbell is not losing her position as an adviser on Supreme Court of Canada appointments after she publicly called for a hurricane to strike U.S. President Donald Trump’s Florida mansion.

Ms. Campbell on Wednesday quote-tweeted a message about Hurricane Dorian, which is expected to slam into Florida over the weekend.

“I’m hoping for a direct hit on Mar a Lago!” she wrote of Mr. Trump’s estate in Palm Beach, which is on the storm’s projected path.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/us-politics/article-kim-campbell-not-losing-supreme-court-adviser-position-following-mar-a/

 

[scribblet]

11 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

I guess what Kim Campbell did wasn't as bad as stomping on a George W. Bush doll like Carolyn Parrish:

 

She should lose it, why would want such a biased twit picking our S.C. justices.   Still, why would Trudeau fire her, she fits right in with Trudeau’s party of hate and division!

Edited August 31, 2019 by scribblet

[BubberMiley]

On 8/31/2019 at 10:56 AM, scribblet said:

She should lose it, why would want such a biased twit picking our S.C. justices.   Still, why would Trudeau fire her, she fits right in with Trudeau’s party of hate and division!

She was a conservative PM. But has she shown a bias that would disqualify her from picking a Supreme Court justice? I don't think you understand how the process works.

[taxme]

On 8/30/2019 at 2:20 PM, bush_cheney2004 said:

This former Canadian PM Kim Campbell hates Trump so much she wants Hurricane Dorian to directly hit Mar a  Lago in Florida.

 

 

This is just more of leftist liberal bull shit now coming from another leftist liberal biotch at her best. Some conservative, eh? If only that hurricane could come far enough north and go wreck her house. Let us all pray that will happen. Lol. 

[taxme]

19 hours ago, BubberMiley said:

She was a conservative PM. But has she shown a bias that would disqualify her from picking a Supreme Court justice? I don't think you understand how the process works.

I have no fear of Trump. Only leftist liberals fear Trump and they knw why they hate Trump. Trump is kicking their liberal globalist butts. 

The biotch is not a conservative. She is a traitor to real and true conservatism. That stunned fool is a liberal thru and thru. Our Supreme Court is full of SJW leftist liberal judges. Liberalism has this country surrounded and it is doing a fine job of trying to finish it off. All these commie globalist liberals have to do now is to get rid of the real and true conservatives that are left and the job will be a done deal. And don't count on liberal conservative Scheer to change anything. Globalist Scheer is not much better than comrade Trudeau is, just a little lighter. They both are out to destroy Canada together. Scheer will still follow the globalists plans for Canada as globalist Trudeau has been doing for four years now in Canada. 

Fear not Trump. Fear Trudeau instead. 

[Dougie93]

1 hour ago, taxme said:

Fear not Trump. Fear Trudeau instead. 

They're the same.

Two sides of the same coin.

Populist rabble rousing political opportunists leveraging their celebrity fame.

[BubberMiley]

It's interesting that even moderate conservatives are "leftist liberals" on this board now. I can remember when there were plenty if sane centrists around here. I wonder what happened to them

[taxme]

6 hours ago, BubberMiley said:

It's interesting that even moderate conservatives are "leftist liberals" on this board now. I can remember when there were plenty if sane centrists around here. I wonder what happened to them

If you meant to say progressive(liberal)conservatives like Scheer, then yes, they all have gone "leftist lieberals". Leftists, centrists, liberal conservatives have all gone over to the left and all believe in globalism/communism or as some would say, big government, more red tape, more massive third world immigration/refugees and more multiculturalism, and more taxes to be taken from the Canadian taxpayer's tax dollars. Most of those tax dollars will go towards helping the rest of the world and Canadians can be happy with coming in 2nd place forever with those bunch of globalist twits. They do not believe in freedom of speech unless it is their version of freedom of speech.

Why I say this is because the bought off CBC media showed today a chart where the PPC Maxine Bernier has only 3% of the popular vote. Maybe it is an true survey or maybe a made up survey to make the PPC look low in their numbers. But if this is true then this just tells me that 97% of Canadians are pro big government, more red tape, more taxes and less freedom, and they will get more of it if one of the other political party's gain power. So, if you are all worried about some real and true conservative party like the PPC to take power in Canada, well do not worry. It would appear as though Canadians just want more of globalist/comrade Trudeau's plans for Canada, and we all will pay heavily for voting for any one of those other non-Canadian political Party's. They only want to give their loyalty to the international globalists. As far as I am concerned, the PPC is the last hope and last chance to save Canada from the international globalists. It will either be freedom or slavery. It will be do or die on election day for this nation called Canada. My opinion. 

[taxme]

21 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

They're the same.

Two sides of the same coin.

Populist rabble rousing political opportunists leveraging their celebrity fame.

Globalist Trudeau comes nowhere near to being a real politician like Donald Trump. Trump has been fighting against globalism since he became President. Trump took America out of the Paris Accord and dumped the globalist United Nations TTP. Globalist Trudeau did not. Trudeau has doubled down on globalism. As a matter of fact, comrade Trudeau is doing more to make Canada a slavery state to international globalism and the United Nations. With Trump, it will be a heads up coin. With Trudeau, it will be a heads down coin. I prefer the former. The former will out do the latter anytime because the latter is politically stupid and clueless. Globalist internationalist G. Soros has made a fool out of Trudeau, and the rest of we the people in Canada.

Trudeau would like to have a seat at the UN one day. Trump would like to remove all the seats from the UN today and make better use of that building. Trump could buy it and make a hotel out of it and make some money from that useless building full of useless globalists. 

[Dougie93]

21 minutes ago, taxme said:

Globalist Trudeau comes nowhere near to being a real politician like Donald Trump.

I am an agnostic servant of the Crown in the classically British Westminster tradition. Monarchist Tory.  No partisan loyalty but to the Queen.

And I am a Thatcherite as well, Margaret Thatcher is a heroine to me.  courage, outstanding achievements, and noble qualities, my war chief.

Thus who the rubes wish to vote for,  is of no particular consequence to me.

The only vote that really counts in the end, is where you park your equity, otherwise known as Money Talks and Bullshit Walks.

Edited September 3, 2019 by Dougie93

[bush_cheney2004]

When VP Mike Pence paid a courtesy NAFTA visit to Trudeau and Canada in May, Trudeau couldn't help taking a jab at Pence over abortion "rights" in the U.S.

This was FEAR and dramatic virtue signaling butt play for Trudeau's base:

 

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The Trudeau government has fast built up a track record of trying, and failing, to export its progressive values to countries that decided, on reflection, they would prefer if Canada minded its own goddamned business.

The Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal nearly came unstuck over Canada’s progressive trade agenda; China resolved it would rather not “put people first” in any prospective deal; “Canadian values” on the environment, gender and Indigenous issues proved a hindrance, rather than a help, in striking the new NAFTA.

 

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/john-ivison-desperate-trudeau-antagonizes-pence-over-abortion-to-score-political-points