ReeferMadness Posted January 21, 2016 Report Posted January 21, 2016 In the clearest possible damnation of their own failed administration, Conservatives are reversing themselves on one failed Harper policy after another. First, it was supporting the MMIW inquiry. Then Jason Kenney called on the Liberal to release the contents of a report on the Saudi arms deal that his government refused to release. Then Rona Ambrose announced she wanted to meet with the government to discuss the upcoming budget (quick - when was the last time Harper agreed to meet with the opposition to discuss budget priorities???). In the latest example of blatant Conservative hypocrisy, Rona Ambrose is urging the government to move quickly on legalizing marijuana. "The faster they move on this the better". You got that right. The party that put people in jail for having 6 plants wants the Liberals to hurry up and make reefer legal. Hahahahahahahahahahaha You can't make this shit up. Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
waldo Posted January 21, 2016 Report Posted January 21, 2016 oh ya, bigtime! We now have Conservative MP 'Tony Clement', in regards the mandatory long-form census stating that, "in hindsight he would have done things differently" --- Mandatory long-form census restored by new Liberal government Quote
Topaz Posted January 21, 2016 Report Posted January 21, 2016 How can one have respect for any of the Conservatives that didn't call Harper out and many did and left the party. My own MP being a Conservative said he wanted to keep his job so he couldn't make waves with the leader. Remember when Harper said if u are here for yourselves there's the door..... many didn't take it , so they were voted out. Quote
waldo Posted January 21, 2016 Report Posted January 21, 2016 oh noooos! Liberals wind down controversial audits of charitable groups ... that should put a dent in that Harper 'enemies of the state' list, yes? Quote
waldo Posted January 21, 2016 Report Posted January 21, 2016 apparently, Harper really wanted this 'communism memorial'... center stage. Now to be moved and significantly redesigned/scaled down --- Communism memorial site next to Supreme Court officially nixed Quote
ReeferMadness Posted January 21, 2016 Author Report Posted January 21, 2016 oh ya, bigtime! We now have Conservative MP 'Tony Clement', in regards the mandatory long-form census stating that, "in hindsight he would have done things differently" --- Mandatory long-form census restored by new Liberal government I think the one thing he wishes they'd "done differently" is not to have selected a dictatorial, micromanaging, self-serving control freak as leader. Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
Shady Posted January 21, 2016 Report Posted January 21, 2016 Too funny. Harper Derangement Syndrome even after he's left office. Quote
PIK Posted January 21, 2016 Report Posted January 21, 2016 I was thinking the same thing. But I see that trudeau going to allow the chiefs to start stealing again. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
ReeferMadness Posted January 21, 2016 Author Report Posted January 21, 2016 So you both are OK with Conservatives who were too cowardly to voice their opinions suddenly coming out against Harper's policies after he's gone? Hypocrisy - the one true value of the CPC! Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
Wilber Posted January 21, 2016 Report Posted January 21, 2016 In the clearest possible damnation of their own failed administration, Conservatives are reversing themselves on one failed Harper policy after another. First, it was supporting the MMIW inquiry. Then Jason Kenney called on the Liberal to release the contents of a report on the Saudi arms deal that his government refused to release. Then Rona Ambrose announced she wanted to meet with the government to discuss the upcoming budget (quick - when was the last time Harper agreed to meet with the opposition to discuss budget priorities???). In the latest example of blatant Conservative hypocrisy, Rona Ambrose is urging the government to move quickly on legalizing marijuana. "The faster they move on this the better". You got that right. The party that put people in jail for having 6 plants wants the Liberals to hurry up and make reefer legal. Hahahahahahahahahahaha You can't make this shit up. I hadn't heard Trudeau has agreed to discuss budget priorities with the Conservatives. Based on their experience, both Washington and Colorado have advised not to rush into legalization. Getting it right is more important than getting it done in a hurry. Kind of like Syrian refugees. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Argus Posted January 21, 2016 Report Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) So you both are OK with Conservatives who were too cowardly to voice their opinions suddenly coming out against Harper's policies after he's gone? Hypocrisy - the one true value of the CPC! And the Liberals. I mean, I can agree it looks hypocritical for the Conservatives to start questioning arms sales to SA when they approved it. But the Liberals have reversed themselves, as well. As to the stuff quoted about. It's small beans. Edited January 21, 2016 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted January 21, 2016 Report Posted January 21, 2016 In the latest example of blatant Conservative hypocrisy, Rona Ambrose is urging the government to move quickly on legalizing marijuana. "The faster they move on this the better". You got that right. You are, of course, completely misstating her position. She is still opposed to legalization. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
PIK Posted January 21, 2016 Report Posted January 21, 2016 Google what is going on in Colorado about it. Lets just decriminalize for now. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Smallc Posted January 21, 2016 Report Posted January 21, 2016 Google what is going on in Colorado about it. Lets just decriminalize for now. Decriminalization would make things worse than legalization with regulation. Quote
Keepitsimple Posted January 21, 2016 Report Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) In the latest example of blatant Conservative hypocrisy, Rona Ambrose is urging the government to move quickly on legalizing marijuana. "The faster they move on this the better". You got that right. The party that put people in jail for having 6 plants wants the Liberals to hurry up and make reefer legal. Hahahahahahahahahahaha You can't make this shit up. Yes you can - and you have! Here's what Ambrose actually said: Sorry, interim Conservative leader Rona Ambrose did not call for pot’s legalization on Vancouver radio ....................................................... “I say to the government, make sure you take it slow, that you got the right public health measures in place, the right restrictions to keep it away from kids. It’s a tough thing to do when you legalize something, because when you legalize, you normalize it and then it becomes more acceptable and more available,” she said the Canadian Paediatric Society has repeatedly warned against pot’s effect on growing brains. “We need to have a really strong public health campaign aimed at kids if this moves ahead.” Link: http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/sorry-interim-conservative-leader-rona-ambrose-did-not-call-for-pots-legalization-on-vancouver-radio Edited January 21, 2016 by Keepitsimple Quote Back to Basics
ReeferMadness Posted January 21, 2016 Author Report Posted January 21, 2016 Yes you can - and you have! Here's what Ambrose actually said: Link: http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/sorry-interim-conservative-leader-rona-ambrose-did-not-call-for-pots-legalization-on-vancouver-radio Listen to the clip, not the apologists at the right wing rag. She said "the faster they move on this the better". AND, when the radio host called out her own government for creating the situation where we have hundreds of dispensaries thumbing their noses at a bad law, she deflected the blame to the local jurisdictions. Listen to the actual clip. She does not come out of this looking good. No matter what her defenders at the National Post do to try and help her out. Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
Guest Posted January 22, 2016 Report Posted January 22, 2016 Certainly, many Conservatives were forced to bite their tongue and simply read their PMO prepared sound bites under Harper. Harper's CPC did not allow for free thought, opinion, conversation, debate or compromise. However, with the threat removed we are now seeing some CPC members testing the waters of free speech. I'm interested to see if the next leader will seek to repair the party and allow MPs to speak, debate and offer ideas, or maybe the idea of dictatorial control over a party will be too alluring to give up on. I'm hopeful the party can be repaired and Canadians will have a sensible conservative option again. Quote
Smallc Posted January 22, 2016 Report Posted January 22, 2016 The more conservative members in the party are very dangerous to their electoral chances, hence Harper's tight control. Quote
The_Squid Posted January 22, 2016 Report Posted January 22, 2016 The more conservative members in the party are very dangerous to their electoral chances, hence Harper's tight control. Why was the control so tight even on the more "moderate" CPC MPs? Quote
Smallc Posted January 22, 2016 Report Posted January 22, 2016 Why was the control so tight even on the more "moderate" CPC MPs? In the eyes of left wing Canadians, the moderate CPC MPs are anything but, IMO. Quote
The_Squid Posted January 22, 2016 Report Posted January 22, 2016 In the eyes of left wing Canadians, the moderate CPC MPs are anything but, IMO. I realize that (somewhat)... But you mentioned the more conservative (probably social conservative) members were dangerous to them getting elected. That doesn't seem to explain why the muzzle of everyone. Quote
Smallc Posted January 22, 2016 Report Posted January 22, 2016 I realize that (somewhat)... But you mentioned the more conservative (probably social conservative) members were dangerous to them getting elected. That doesn't seem to explain why the muzzle of everyone. I think it became an obsession. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted January 22, 2016 Report Posted January 22, 2016 I've never been much of a CPC supporter but I am currently somewhat heartened by what seems to be a bit of a shift as at least some of their members are crawling out from under Harper's rock. Even Rona was saying the other day she looked forward to having a meeting with JT to seek cooperation on certain non-partisan issues. I'm sure there are still the Clement, Poilievre types which will likely never change, but it seems the so called breath of fresh air that was widely talked about after the last election seems to be permeating where it hasn't for the last decade. A little cooperation might be nice for a change. Fingers X'ed. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted January 22, 2016 Report Posted January 22, 2016 The remaining CPC MP's will now have to standby and watch as a string of bad laws (C51, C24, C2, the spanking law etc.) that were brought in under Harper, either repealed or heavily amended. Hope they behave. Quote
waldo Posted January 24, 2016 Report Posted January 24, 2016 As to the stuff quoted about. It's small beans. of course... a 'small beans' declaration allows you to summarily dismiss those significant reversals - the first of many... with the best yet to come! meanwhile in 'exploding CPC heads' territory, Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale has just vowed to overhaul the 'punitive' changes introduced by Harper to the criminal pardons system Quote
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