Exegesisme Posted March 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 Maybe, Trump will win, and Both GOP and US have to recieve reformation of Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerxst Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Did I really just read a post (or several) about Cruz being a good guy?? I had to swallow my vomit there for a minute. It may look different fom the North, but Cruz was responsible for shutting down the government in 2013. If you don't understand what that implies... every federal agency simply stopped - a complete and total void in anything funded and run by the US government. National Parks, closed (No biggie, unless you were one of the thousands of unlucky tourists travelling thousands of miles to see the Grand Canyon or Yellowstone for instance). Mail service, stopped. People didn't get paid. VA hospitals closed most services. Everything just became a void. And who was at the head of this decision? Your wonderful Ted Cruz. He has also been one of the leaders heading the revolt against "Obamacare". Might not seem like a big deal up there, but we don't have any national healthcare. If we get sick, we pay. If we can't afford to, we stay sick. Cruz doesn't give a single rat's ass about "the people" he's supposedly representing. His list of "achievements" goes on and on. I do seriously wonder if people in Canada don't realize how extremely far to the Right the US has been pulled since McCarthyism destroyed our Liberal voice in the 1950's. First McCarthyism, then JFK and Martin Luther King JR. Carter came along, but it was already too late - people didn't like the fact that he wasn't militant and all aggressive over the Middle East after the hostage and oil crisis in the late 70's, so he was ousted by Reagan. Any balance to Conservative views was destroyed over a 20 year period. It's like having a Yin with a slightly bigger Yin instead of a Yang. Lincoln was a Republican - he freed the slaves. Teddy Roosevelt was a Republican - he broke up monopolies and established labor laws. Eisenhower was a Republican - he strengthened Social Security and raised taxes. Then Nixon came along and decided a losing war over a rice field no one cared about was a good thing, before his impeachment. After him, Reagan started tearing this country apart from the top down. Now we have Cruz and various Tea Partiers wanting to drag us, kicking and screaming, even further to the Right. I could also go on about ClInton and the Democrats since those trade agreements were such a wonderful thing - because after graduating from college with a 5 figure student load debt, I wanted my IT job outsourced to India, really, I did! Trump simply won't be able to get anything done. Republicans and Democrats hate him equally. He may be President, but no one under his command will listen to a thing he says and his entire term will be nothing but a Lame Duck that gets us nowhere. Cruz, on the other hand, is a freakin' closet sociopath. He's worse than Trump because he represents the billion dollar business interests and may actually get his bills passed and have supporters in the rest of his party. Then we'll have all 3 branches of our government representing one party that represent the minority of the voters in the country (Republicans actually compose much less of the general population that polls would show... thank you gerrymandering). Cruzz... uughhh. You guys want him back? Pretty pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 (edited) ....He has also been one of the leaders heading the revolt against "Obamacare". Might not seem like a big deal up there, but we don't have any national healthcare. If we get sick, we pay. If we can't afford to, we stay sick. Cruz doesn't give a single rat's ass about "the people" he's supposedly representing. That's not true....let's see...at the federal level, there is Medicare (for seniors), Medicaid (for poor folks), VA (for veterans), and SCHIP (for children) with matching state funds. Then there are state programs like Medi-Cal in California. Also, no one can legally be turned away from an emergency room if they need care. Canada's Health Act is administered by the provinces, with varying covered procedures and eligibility requirements. Sometimes they have to send patients to the evil USA! This was the case before Obamacare or Ted Cruz. Edited March 21, 2016 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotary Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 That's not true....let's see...at the federal level, there is Medicare (for seniors), Medicaid (for poor folks), VA (for veterans), and SCHIP (for children) with matching state funds. Then there are state programs like Medi-Cal in California. Also, no one can legally be turned away from an emergency room if they need care. Canada's Health Act is administered by the provinces, with varying covered procedures and eligibility requirements. Sometimes they have to send patients to the evil USA! This was the case before Obamacare or Ted Cruz. Highest costs with the worst outcomes. You would think that perhaps the idea that health care for profit is a bad one would eventually catch on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 (edited) Highest costs with the worst outcomes. You would think that perhaps the idea that health care for profit is a bad one would eventually catch on. Why? Health care is not a right, not even in Canada. We have numerous threads on this topic already. Ted Cruz was simply supporting the majority of his constituents, 80% of whom were satisfied with existing health insurance options. Obama abandoned single payer immediately as politically impossible to achieve. Clinton already tried and failed in the 90's. Edited March 21, 2016 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotary Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Why? Health care is not a right, not even in Canada. We have numerous threads on this topic already. Ted Cruz was simply supporting the majority of his constituents, 80% of whom were satisfied with existing health insurance options. Obama abandoned single payer immediately as politically impossible to achieve. Clinton already tried and failed in the 90's. According to the Canada Health Act it pretty much is a right, and has been since about 1961. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 According to the Canada Health Act it pretty much is a right, and has been since about 1961. Getting off topic, but that most certainly is not the case. It is not a right, nor should it be. Even when he was a Canadian, Ted Cruz knew this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotary Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Getting off topic, but that most certainly is not the case. It is not a right, nor should it be. Even when he was a Canadian, Ted Cruz knew this. It most certainly is the case, but yes, we are off topic somewhat. and Cruz is all yours now, thankfully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotary Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 All in all I suspect the Republicans haven't been as embarrassed as they are now since the demise of Richard Nixon. Trump and Cruz are trying hrd though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 All in all I suspect the Republicans haven't been as embarrassed as they are now since the demise of Richard Nixon. Trump and Cruz are trying hrd though. Could be worse, like when Clinton was impeached. At least Nixon resigned. Cruz has already defeated the other GOP pretenders. He is still in the game....not bad for a Canadian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotary Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Could be worse, like when Clinton was impeached. At least Nixon resigned. Cruz has already defeated the other GOP pretenders. He is still in the game....not bad for a Canadian. Wrong on both: Cruz is no longer a Canadian, and Clinton was not impeached. How come a Canadian has to set you straight on such things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 (edited) Wrong on both: Cruz is no longer a Canadian, and Clinton was not impeached. How come a Canadian has to set you straight on such things? Seriously? You think Clinton was not impeached ? Use America's Google to correct any such notion. He was impeached by the House on two charges and found not-guilty by the Senate. Cruz is no longer a Canadian, and he has never been impeached. Edited March 21, 2016 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotary Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Seriously? You think Clinton was not impeached ? Use America's Google to correct any such notion. Cruz is no longer a Canadian, and he has not been impeached. I don't need google to know Clinton was not impeached. Perhaps you should give it a try. Right about Cruz though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 I don't need google to know Clinton was not impeached. Perhaps you should give it a try. Right about Cruz though. OK...if you want to re-write U.S. history I guess that is your prerogative. Back to Senator Cruz...no big dirt on him yet, but it is still early in the campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotary Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 OK...if you want to re-write U.S. history I guess that is your prerogative. Back to Senator Cruz...no big dirt on him yet, but it is still early in the campaign. The house tried to impeach, but it was overturned at the senate. Apparently you didn't bother to google it. As to Cruz, he cozies up to evangelicals who think the world is 6k or so years old. Not sure what more you need, but at least his "deck crew" don't seem to be beating protesters up...so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerxst Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Ted Cruz was simply supporting the majority of his constituents, 80% of whom were satisfied with existing health insurance options. Let's just focus on this one: Conservatives are already among the minority - I've read in the neighborhood of the 40%. They've carved up districts nicely to get more votes for less of the people. So, 80% of the minority is representation how, exactly? That means about 70% of the overall population wants some sort of national healthcare system but they have this one f***stain of a politician leading an effort to block it. The others options you mentioned vary drastically state by state and only apply if you fall below a poverty line that is lower than most other countries in the world - and then you still have to pay for most of them. Obama, the same as Clinton of a freakin' Republican. Why do people insist on thinking he's some sort of Socialist Commie Nigerian Muslim? He's more Conservative than any Republican pre-1960 and has continued and started wars around the world. The only thing that makes him look remotely Liberal are these freaks of nature like Cruz running around DC. So, any wonder why a Conservative would stop fighting for a national healthcare system? Surely it wouldn't be because they get a shit-ton of money from the industry. Of course not! Just like Hillary didn't get paid off in the 90's, before she mysteriously stopped her campaign for it, and Obama hasn't promised the industry millions of government dollars in addition to premiums we still have to pay for out of our pockets, or face $500-$900 fines for not having. So now, what does Cruz want to do if he drops Obamacare? Probably foot the bills back over to us for the $400+ dollars the government promised to pay to insurance companies in the form of tax credits to us. No thanks, I'd rather face the fine. And.. oh look at that - I no longer have insurance... again! So, f*** Cruz. He'd rather watch 70% of us die in the streets if it meant he and his buddies could get richer off of our corpses. Fortunately, Sander would wipe the floor with him in a general election. Unfortunately, Hillary already rigged that system to her favor and will suffer a humiliating loss to the GOP. So odds are now, we're looking at either a Trump or a Cruz presidency. Fortunately the Second Amendment will be well protected, so we can all go out a buy ourselves a gun and blow our brains out before having to suffer the effects of "slow-death-by-non-representation". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 The house tried to impeach, The House did impeach him...that is the very definition. Trial in Senate. Sorry....he was the second president to be impeached. Ted Cruz shouldn't have any problems with interns or lying in a federal court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Let's just focus on this one: Conservatives are already among the minority - I've read in the neighborhood of the 40%. They've carved up districts nicely to get more votes for less of the people. So, 80% of the minority is representation how, exactly? That means about 70% of the overall population wants some sort of national healthcare system but they have this one f***stain of a politician leading an effort to block it. ...So, f*** Cruz. He'd rather watch 70% of us die in the streets if it meant he and his buddies could get richer off of our corpses. ...Fortunately, Sander would wipe the floor with him in a general election. Unfortunately, Hillary already rigged that system to her favor and will suffer a humiliating loss to the GOP. Cruz is already doing better than Sanders....Bernie is toast along with his socialist progressive supporters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotary Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 The House did impeach him...that is the very definition. Trial in Senate. Sorry....he was the second president to be impeached. Ted Cruz shouldn't have any problems with interns or lying in a federal court. Apparently you don't understand your own laws, and that from a member of the most litigious nation on the planet. In actual fact I think many of us reckon Cruz is the more scarier between him and the hair. But in any case, the soap opera vis a vis the recent Canadian election I reckon once again gives us a pause to appreciate how lucky we are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Apparently you don't understand your own laws, and that from a member of the most litigious nation on the planet. In actual fact I think many of us reckon Cruz is the more scarier between him and the hair. But in any case, the soap opera vis a vis the recent Canadian election I reckon once again gives us a pause to appreciate how lucky we are. Then there should be no issue(s)....Cruz is no longer a Canadian and has no interest in Canadian politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotary Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Then there should be no issue(s)....Cruz is no longer a Canadian and has no interest in Canadian politics.There's no issue for us. But apparently he does have an interest in US politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 There's no issue for us. But apparently he does have an interest in US politics. I think he does, but that pesky Donald Trump is ruining his dream. All Canadians and ex-Canadians who want to take advantage of the greater opportunities in the United States still have to earn it. Next primaries are on Tuesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotary Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 I think he does, but that pesky Donald Trump is ruining his dream. All Canadians and ex-Canadians who want to take advantage of the greater opportunities in the United States still have to earn it. Next primaries are on Tuesday.Well there won't be a great influx with regard to your first thought, but thanks for the heads up so we can get some popcorn popped in prep for the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Well there won't be a great influx with regard to your first thought, but thanks for the heads up so we can get some popcorn popped in prep for the other. No problem...we have already established than some Canadians will be paying very close attention to the remaining primary/caucus election season, because it....<insert dramatic music>.... "affects their lives". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotary Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 No problem...we have already established than some Canadians will be paying very close attention to the remaining primary/caucus election season, because it....<insert dramatic music>.... "affects their lives".Well yeah, if you happen to own property in Cape Breton. It is a lovely place after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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