hitops Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Surely, neither the bad-sweater-wearing suburban dad nor the creepy bearded uncle you see at family reunions will run again. So who's up next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 I hope this doesn't get deleted or locked due to brevity because your opening line is great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Who cares about the NDP. Olivia Chow? She's still looking for work. I predict Lisa Raitt will have an excellent shot at leadership. She was re-elected in a sea of red last night. Perhaps Jim Flaherty's wife Christine Eliott may try for a shot after failing to win the Ontario PC leadership. John Baird is probably another possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machjo Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 CPC: Scott Reid. http://www.ottawasun.com/2015/10/20/reid-survives-tight-battle-in-lanark-frontenac-kingston NDP: Mulcair for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machjo Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Now if it's a matter not of whom I might be hoping for but rather who has a political chance, then definitely not Scott Reid. He'd probably present some good ideas which would turn the knuckle daggers in the party off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-1=e^ipi Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Jason Kenney? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-1=e^ipi Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 I don't see why you would count Mulcair out. He was leading in the polls for a good while during the election, and the NDP hasn't historically booted leaders just because they lost an election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capricorn Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 I predict Lisa Raitt will have an excellent shot at leadership. She was re-elected in a sea of red last night. Perhaps Jim Flaherty's wife Christine Eliott may try for a shot after failing to win the Ontario PC leadership. John Baird is probably another possibility. A woman leader would be a refreshing change.Not to mention we could have dueling hairdos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 I'm not sure if someone that belonged to the Alliance party can get the support of all Canadians but a return of the PC could. I see nothing wrong with Muclair, most Canadians voted Liberal to take out Harper, even former PCs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 I'm hopeful that the CPC can be completely renovated and return strong and viable. Though I'm doubtful that it will happen, I would like to see some grassroots, riding-led democracy, that was favoured by the Reformers, return. The top-down, autocratic control of Harper needs to die along with his political career, but a new leader will be reluctant to give up that kind of dictatorial control. In that light, I would love to see the party run by a pragmatic, intelligent, diplomatic conservative like Michael Chong. He was embarrassed and mistreated by Harper, it would great to see him restore democracy and respectability within the party. However, I suspect we will see someone like Kenney who is almost the opposite of Chong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 I am not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeNumber Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 I was hoping it would be Megan Leslie to take over the NDP reigns but with her not winning her riding that is but a pipe dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeelious Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 I was hoping it would be Megan Leslie to take over the NDP reigns but with her not winning her riding that is but a pipe dream. She would still be a good choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitops Posted October 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 (edited) I don't see why you would count Mulcair out. He was leading in the polls for a good while during the election, and the NDP hasn't historically booted leaders just because they lost an election. The NDP has also historically not won elections. I'm hopeful that the CPC can be completely renovated and return strong and viable. Though I'm doubtful that it will happen, I would like to see some grassroots, riding-led democracy, that was favoured by the Reformers, return. The top-down, autocratic control of Harper needs to die along with his political career, but a new leader will be reluctant to give up that kind of dictatorial control. In that light, I would love to see the party run by a pragmatic, intelligent, diplomatic conservative like Michael Chong. He was embarrassed and mistreated by Harper, it would great to see him restore democracy and respectability within the party. However, I suspect we will see someone like Kenney who is almost the opposite of Chong. Agree! I would love Chong. Also agree never going to happen. Edited October 20, 2015 by hitops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Civis Romanus sum Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Brad Wall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-1=e^ipi Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 A woman leader would be a refreshing change.Not to mention we could have dueling hairdos. Why is the sex of the leader relevant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Who cares about the NDP. Olivia Chow? She's still looking for work. Very unlikely. She's not Jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeelious Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Why is the sex of the leader relevant? Optics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 I don't see why you would count Mulcair out. He was leading in the polls for a good while during the election, and the NDP hasn't historically booted leaders just because they lost an election. Also, Mulcair took the fight to Trudeau, which is what lost him the election. Now Prime Minister Trudeau, perhaps people will look at him taking the fight to Trudeau a bit differently in that context. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Gail Shea for the CPC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Also, Mulcair took the fight to Trudeau, which is what lost him the election. Now Prime Minister Trudeau, perhaps people will look at him taking the fight to Trudeau a bit differently in that context. Though, effective at delivering scathing diatribes, Tom just isn't charismatic. I really like Tom, but I am also over 30. It is reasonable to expect that the increase in voter turnout was more pronounced in the younger demographics. I suspect younger voters and those wanting to 'Heave Steve' identified more with the positive and charismatic leader than the angry one. Positive change invariably plays out more slowly than voters would like. So maybe you're right, and in 2019 people will appreciate angry verbal assaults directed at PM Trudeau. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpankyMcFarland Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 (edited) It's not just about policy. Justin's got the perfect family photos. Kenney doesn't. Raitt and Wall don't speak French AFAIK. Leitch sounds weird. Women have a harder time as leaders. Just to argue with myself here, I think Raitt sounds reasonable if she could be taught a bit of franglais. Kenney is excellent, too. I'm surprised Moore bowed out because, like O'Toole, he's one of the least annoying Conservatives going and has wider appeal. Another possibility would be Rempel who is an excellent debater. Edited October 20, 2015 by SpankyMcFarland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-1=e^ipi Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 I suspect younger voters and those wanting to 'Heave Steve' identified more with the positive and charismatic leader than the angry one. Younger voters are more likely to vote NDP relative to liberal compared to the population at large. The 3 roommates in their 20's that I live with all voted NDP (to be fair my grandparents also voted NDP). I don't think your argument holds. Women have a harder time as leaders. Maybe 20+ years ago. Today it's a positive that increases your chances of being elected in most developed countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpankyMcFarland Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Younger voters are more likely to vote NDP relative to liberal compared to the population at large. The 3 roommates in their 20's that I live with all voted NDP (to be fair my grandparents also voted NDP). I don't think your argument holds. Maybe 20+ years ago. Today it's a positive that increases your chances of being elected in most developed countries. So where are the female PMs in the last twenty years in Canada? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadBrother Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 It's not just about policy. Justin's got the perfect family photos. Kenney doesn't. Raitt and Wall don't speak French AFAIK. Leitch sounds weird. Women have a harder time as leaders. Just to argue with myself here, I think Raitt sounds reasonable if she could be taught a bit of franglais. Kenney is excellent, too. I'm surprised Moore bowed out because, like O'Toole, he's one of the least annoying Conservatives going and has wider appeal. Another possibility would be Rempel who is an excellent debater. Kenney may have the edge, if he can shed some of his social conservative baggage. He was one of the Tories' most effective cabinet ministers (though his stint as Minister of Defense was somewhat underwhelming). Wall's chief problem, beyond his being unilingual, is that there no tradition of Premiers becoming PMs. So far as I'm aware, the only Provincial Premier even to become a leader of major Federal party was Tommy Douglas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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