Exegesisme Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 How About Merging NDP and Green? By Exegesisme What does new democracy mean? To my observation, NDP shows nothing new about democracy. NDP needs to make the meaning of its name real to Canadian people. New democracy, should not be just two words in the name of NDP, but means something our Canadian people hope for, our Canadian people want to work for, and so, our Canadian people want to vote for. The actual meaning of the words new democracy, is something in my mind the people ask for in their future. If it is only something they ask for in their past, such thing certainly is not new. So, new democracy, first should have the ability to predict what Canadian people need in their future. In my knowledge, nothing is more important than environment in human future, so is in past, so is at now, and so is in future. However, only in future, the people realize this more clearly than any other time. The demand to live in a good environment will become the first desire for all peoples, I believe so do Canadian people, then new democracy and green mean the same, and the two parties share the same value. Therefore, why not they do merge together? After merging, they need a new name, environmental humanism party. A new party represents a new philosophy, leads Canadian people live an environmental humanism life. What's your opinion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G Huxley Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 The Green Democratic Party? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadBrother Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Because that 5% spread over half a continent is going to make that big a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G Huxley Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) ``Because that 5% spread over half a continent is going to make that big a difference.``Hey although the PCs had more it worked for the Alliance when they absorbed the PCs, which had only been gathering a handful of seats. Edited October 19, 2015 by G Huxley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exegesisme Posted October 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 The Green Democratic Party? Green Human Party. (Democracy in deep is a negative word. What we really need is republic, not democracy.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReeferMadness Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 This is not gonna happen and if it did, half the Greens would abandon this new party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exegesisme Posted October 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 This is not gonna happen and if it did, half the Greens would abandon this new party. Much more will join if with a good leadership. Who really green does not want to be a big green? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 A lot of Greens are Green because they're no longer Orange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReeferMadness Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Much more will join if with a good leadership. Who really green does not want to be a big green? I'm Green. And I don't want to be part of the NDP. Maybe you can start your own party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReeferMadness Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 A lot of Greens are Green because they're no longer Orange. I've never been Orange. I don't have anything against Orange - I just don't necessarily agree with their approach to some issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exegesisme Posted October 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 A lot of Greens are Green because they're no longer Orange. Not green becomes orange, but orange becomes green. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Maybe not, but you live here in NB. You can see what's happened to the NDP here. Its past leader was endorsing the Green Party when Gallant became premier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G Huxley Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 If you want a Republic check out the US presidential system (no thanks, I`ll take democracy instead any day. Actual democracy that is and we don`t really have that in Canada right now). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exegesisme Posted October 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 I'm Green. And I don't want to be part of the NDP. Maybe you can start your own party. Do you opposite orange becomes part of green? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReeferMadness Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Do you opposite orange becomes part of green? If people want to join the Greens, I think that's great. But I don't want to change with the Green Party stands for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exegesisme Posted October 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 If you want a Republic check out the US presidential system (no thanks, I`ll take democracy instead any day. Actual democracy that is and we don`t really have that in Canada right now). Democracy includes the meaning of ignoring minority, do you want to be ignored as you become one of minority? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 If you want a Republic check out the US presidential system To be fair, there are at least 3 other systems to choose from (parliamentary republic, semi presidential republic, and parliamentary presidential republic - plus variations of each). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G Huxley Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) ``Democracy includes the meaning of ignoring minority, do you want to be ignored as you become one of minority?``No it doesn`t, it means ``rule by the citizenry.`` In Ancient Greek Democracy every citizen was included. Edited October 19, 2015 by G Huxley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadBrother Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 ``Democracy includes the meaning of ignoring minority, do you want to be ignored as you become one of minority?`` No it doesn`t, it means ``rule by the people.`` In Ancient Greek Democracy every citizen was included. And slaves and women could watch from a distance... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G Huxley Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) Indeed, because they weren`t members of the citizenry. Universal Suffrage and the Abolition of Slavery are a very recent phenomena in western representative political systems. Edited October 19, 2015 by G Huxley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReeferMadness Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 And slaves and women could watch from a distance... And now we all watch from a distance.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadBrother Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 And now we all watch from a distance.... Maybe you do. I'm going out tomorrow morning about 7:30 to do my bit to select the next Parliament, which will, one way or another, pick the next Government. I personally know the person most likely to be MP, and while I won't vote for him, he's a good man and I'll know he'll speak for my riding. I involve myself in the political process between elections, as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) Maybe you do. I'm going out tomorrow morning about 7:30 to do my bit to select the next Parliament, which will, one way or another, pick the next Government. I personally know the person most likely to be MP, and while I won't vote for him, he's a good man and I'll know he'll speak for my riding. I involve myself in the political process between elections, as well. And now we all watch from a distance.... It's also worth noting that...it's kind of how representative democracy is supposed to work. We pick people to represent us and our interests. We don't always get our way, but that's the way things worth. It's also worth noting that we are free to engage when we want. Edited October 19, 2015 by Smallc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReeferMadness Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 It's also worth noting that...it's kind of how representative democracy is supposed to work. We pick people to represent us and our interests. We don't always get our way, but that's the way things worth. It's also worth noting that we are free to engage when we want. Maybe you do. I'm going out tomorrow morning about 7:30 to do my bit to select the next Parliament, which will, one way or another, pick the next Government. I personally know the person most likely to be MP, and while I won't vote for him, he's a good man and I'll know he'll speak for my riding. I involve myself in the political process between elections, as well. We got a government most people didn't want. A government that didn't even bother to try representing most of the people. You can believe that old "you get out of it what you put into it" crap but the reality speaks for itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadBrother Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 We got a government most people didn't want. A government that didn't even bother to try representing most of the people. You can believe that old "you get out of it what you put into it" crap but the reality speaks for itself. In a democracy, as in all other aspects of life, you're not going to get everything you want. If that's your expectation, then there isn't a political system that will ever deliver you that expectation. And frankly, even for the Tories, the management end of things wasn't that bad. It was just that under Harper they became such insufferable arrogant jerks. Their time has come and gone, and hopefully, if the Liberals don't win a majority, we may at least have an electoral system that better reflects the public will. But even with a new system, compromises will happen, and we will all find ourselves feeling abandoned on one issue or another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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