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She should be outraged. She bought her ticket and selected a seat. Why should she have to change it. It just doesn't make good business sense to ask her to move. Move the Jewish man, not her.

She didn't have to change it. Other passengers helped to resolve the issue, but she still wants to rage about it, angry that other passengers didn't rage with her.

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Oh poor wittle 'ol me....a strange man asked me to change airplane seats in broken English but I chose not too. Now I am going to milk this outrage for all it is worth on social media. I will be famous !

Let the wittle ol' man take a seat in the lav if his only problem with the one assigned is because it's beside a woman. Sheesh!

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right on cue! I think you are trolling me.

Look, generally the SJWs are the ones advocating that equality get thrown out the window in the name of not offending others, not hurting people's feelings, to be culturally sensitive, etc. A good example of this are the SJWs opposing gay pride parades in Sweden in the name of countering 'racism'. So it makes no sense to call this person an SJW on the basis that she doesn't want to be treated differently on the basis of her gender.

Now I wonder if this thread's poll results would be the same if a man was told to move because another passenger felt that 'I am threatened by sitting next to men since men are dangerous pedophiles that want to rape me because we live in a rape culture. Thus we should have safe spaces for women on planes where men are not allowed.'.

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'I am threatened by sitting next to men since men are dangerous pedophiles that want to rape me because we live in a rape culture. Thus we should have safe spaces for women on planes where men are not allowed.'.

that's quite the grandiose leap, even for a MMAWarrior! :lol:

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Now I wonder if this thread's poll results would be the same if a man was told to move because another passenger felt that 'I am threatened by sitting next to men since men are dangerous pedophiles that want to rape me because we live in a rape culture. Thus we should have safe spaces for women on planes where men are not allowed.'.

The results would be different.

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  • 1 year later...

And here we have a pro-Trump rambling idiot being forever banned from Delta AND the other passengers getting their flights comp'd: http://www.ctvnews.ca/business/delta-bans-rude-pro-trump-passenger-for-life-gives-refunds-1.3180399?campaign_id=A100 

Now can they do the same when these jerk Orthodox Jews are as bad? 

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17 minutes ago, msj said:

And here we have a pro-Trump rambling idiot being forever banned from Delta AND the other passengers getting their flights comp'd: http://www.ctvnews.ca/business/delta-bans-rude-pro-trump-passenger-for-life-gives-refunds-1.3180399?campaign_id=A100 

Hmm, standing up and saying some stuff loudly hardly seems like a lifetime ban level offense. 

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Given that some people have been kicked off of flights for speaking arabic into their cell phones can't say I'm sympathetic. 

It's a make up call since the staff didn't remove him in the first place. 

Hence the need for clear policy against jerks like this and Orthodox jews like in the OP. 

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On 11/29/2016 at 2:56 AM, msj said:

Given that some people have been kicked off of flights for speaking arabic into their cell phones

Yeah, that's clearly stupid as well. People should obviously be able to speak whatever language they want without fear it will cause problems for them.

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It's a make up call since the staff didn't remove him in the first place. 

A dumb call. 

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Hence the need for clear policy against jerks like this and Orthodox jews like in the OP. 

Yes, airlines should have clear policies so it doesn't fall on befuddled staff to make potentially very controversial decisions. In particular, anyone making a scene should be politely told to shut the f###

up, and if they fail to do so, escorted off the plane for failing to comply with instructions. But they should always be given the opportunity to comply first. 

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There have been other religious groups that make demands too, such as having the public swimming pool have men only swimming at certain times, changing the menus in public institutions, removing certain foods from the menu, special prayer room in a university, use of a gymnasium in a public school on Fridays to use as a mosque, special prayer breaks on the job, not accepting a female as a teacher or authority over them, etc. etc.  Should these kinds of demands be accommodated?  Some would say yes, others no.  Is this creeping Sharia?

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5 hours ago, blackbird said:

There have been other religious groups that make demands too, such as having the public swimming pool have men only swimming at certain times, changing the menus in public institutions, removing certain foods from the menu, special prayer room in a university, use of a gymnasium in a public school on Fridays to use as a mosque, special prayer breaks on the job, not accepting a female as a teacher or authority over them, etc. etc.  Should these kinds of demands be accommodated?  Some would say yes, others no.  Is this creeping Sharia?

 
 

Public swimming pools also have parent-and-child only swim times, adult-only swim times, and 'special event' only swim times.  So, I'd call that accommodation, not 'creeping Sharia law'.

All the stories I've read about changing the menus because of Muslim demands are either outright false, or aren't due to Muslims, but because certain foods were not selling in that neighborhood.   So I'd call this 'business as usual' and not creepting Sharia.

Using a gym for a mosque:  I couldn't even find a story that supported this claim.  But taking it at its face that it actually happened, I'd say accommodation - perhaps the usual mosque had been damaged by anti-Muslim forces, and the community decided that until the mosque was repaired, the gym could be loaned.  So, again, not creeping Sharia.

Special prayer breaks on the job:  People take bathroom breaks, water cooler breaks, and cigarette breaks on the job all the time.   So again, I'd call this accommodation, not creeping Sharia.

Not accepting female teacher:  This seems to be about boys who refuse to shake teacher's hands, which is different from 'not accepting a female teacher'.  In Switzerland, it was decided after a time that the boys would have to face a fine every time they refused to shake a teacher's hand.  This is neither accommodation nor creeping Sharia law.   

In Australia, at least one school has accommodated boys who do not want to shake female teacher's hands; other schools do insist on hand shaking.  I would definitely call this religious accommodation and not creeping Sharia law.  

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

Also, having Good Friday off, not being allowed to open on Sunday, having God mentioned in the Constitution

And having Easter Monday off, Christmas day off, marriage between a man and a woman only, having "In God We Trust" as a country's official motto (and on all their currency).

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On ‎2017‎-‎03‎-‎12 at 11:43 AM, dialamah said:

Off-topic and already discussed elsewhere.  

Are you serious and yours is on topic? Give me a break.

This thread should not have been resurrected. Start a new one the whole lot of you.

 

 

 

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