GostHacked Posted April 15, 2015 Report Posted April 15, 2015 That might be because the US is a free democracy while Iran is a brutal theocratic dictatorship. In 1982, I was arrested at the age of 16 in Tehran. I was a student activist born in a Christian family, and I didn’t like the fact that Iran’s revolutionary regime not only did not deliver any political freedoms, but also it took away the personal freedoms of Iranians. We protested, and many of my teenage friends and I were arrested. I was tortured and was forced to convert to Islam and “marry” one of my interrogators under the threat that if I didn’t, my family would be harmed. My so-called husband, Ali, raped me over and over again. I became pregnant at 17, but I miscarried. After 2 years, 2 months, and 12 days in Evin prison, I was released and returned home. My father had already disowned me. My boyfriend, Andre, told me that even if I had come home with a baby in my arms, he would still have wanted to marry me. I was grateful to him. With Andre’s support, I survived, and we made it to Canada. Many of my friends were not so lucky; they are buried in mass graves in Iran. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/irans-regime-and-is-are-two-sides-of-the-same-medieval-coin/article23965259/ With the recent police state like activities in the USA, they are looking less free than it was 20 years ago. But ask yourself how long intelligence agencies like the CIA and Mossad have been messing with Iran. Don't blame the people of Iran, blame their leadership. Quote
Argus Posted April 16, 2015 Report Posted April 16, 2015 With the recent police state like activities in the USA, they are looking less free than it was 20 years ago. But ask yourself how long intelligence agencies like the CIA and Mossad have been messing with Iran. Don't blame the people of Iran, blame their leadership. Calling the US a police state is hyperbolic nonsense. As is portraying Iran as an otherwise peaceful nation of scholars who, were it not for the evil Jews and yankees, would be the world's most tolerant and caring society. There are no peaceful Muslim nations. There are no Muslim nations which respect human rights. Not one. Are you going to blame all that on Jews and Americans? Are other people responsible for nothing they do? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
marcus Posted April 16, 2015 Report Posted April 16, 2015 There are no peaceful Muslim nations. How many Muslim nations do you know? How many Muslims do you know personally? In your head, do all Muslims wear turbans, have beards and yell really loud? Can you, for once, surprise the forum and not share one of your ignorant, bigoted and racist comments about Muslims? Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
Bob Macadoo Posted April 16, 2015 Report Posted April 16, 2015 How many Muslim nations do you know? How many Muslims do you know personally? In your head, do all Muslims wear turbans, have beards and yell really loud? Can you, for once, surprise the forum and not share one of your ignorant, bigoted and racist comments about Muslims? No.....not possible. Quote
Rue Posted April 16, 2015 Report Posted April 16, 2015 Its funny to listen to a skunk telling someone they farted. Rue, 2015 Quote
Big Guy Posted April 16, 2015 Report Posted April 16, 2015 There are a number of posters who believe that no deal is better than this deal. If the American Congress rejects this deal then America finds itself alone with the other countries re-starting trade with Iran - that is the most popular prognosis. Is that better than this deal? Even if the other countries continue the sanctions and Iran continues towards nuclear capability just what do you folks believe will happen next? Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 16, 2015 Report Posted April 16, 2015 There are a number of posters who believe that no deal is better than this deal. If the American Congress rejects this deal then America finds itself alone with the other countries re-starting trade with Iran - that is the most popular prognosis. Is that better than this deal? That's something for the Americans to decide for themselves, and something for Canadians to worry about, as always. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
marcus Posted April 16, 2015 Report Posted April 16, 2015 That's something for the Americans to decide for themselves, and something for Canadians to worry about, as always. You mean that's something for Israel to decide. Which you're okay with. Majority of Americans, however, prefer Obama's approach of negotiations instead of what the prostitutes in Congress and Senate have been told to do by their Israeli sponsors; Which is to derail a possible deal and to push the U.S. into another war. Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 16, 2015 Report Posted April 16, 2015 You mean that's something for Israel to decide. Which you're okay with. Majority of Americans, however, prefer Obama's approach of negotiations instead of what the prostitutes in Congress and Senate have been told to do by their Israeli sponsors; Which is to derail a possible deal and to push the U.S. into another war. Sorry, I forgot that some Canadians also like to worry about what Israel is doing too. My bad.... Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
marcus Posted April 16, 2015 Report Posted April 16, 2015 Sorry, I forgot that some Canadians also like to worry about what Israel is doing too. My bad.... Don't worry about us Canadians. Worry about your congress and senate choosing to work for a foreign country over their own people. Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 16, 2015 Report Posted April 16, 2015 Don't worry about us Canadians. Worry about your congress and senate choosing to work for a foreign country over their own people. Apparently you are more worried about that than I am. Typical..... Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
ToadBrother Posted April 16, 2015 Report Posted April 16, 2015 There are a number of posters who believe that no deal is better than this deal. If the American Congress rejects this deal then America finds itself alone with the other countries re-starting trade with Iran - that is the most popular prognosis. Is that better than this deal? Even if the other countries continue the sanctions and Iran continues towards nuclear capability just what do you folks believe will happen next? I actually think Obama's handing the final say to Congress is pretty darned clever. It puts the pressure on Iran to more strongly commit to further negotiations, because now it is suddenly faced with a far less friendly Congress. It also forces Congress to actually analyze the deal, rather than just take part in long hyperbolic tirades. Quote
marcus Posted April 16, 2015 Report Posted April 16, 2015 (edited) Apparently you are more worried about that than I am. Typical..... I am just reminding you how your system is rotting from the inside. Also, there is nothing wrong with caring about the stability of the world and wanting less wars and destruction. Edited April 16, 2015 by marcus Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
Argus Posted April 17, 2015 Report Posted April 17, 2015 (edited) How many Muslim nations do you know? How many Muslims do you know personally? In your head, do all Muslims wear turbans, have beards and yell really loud? Can you, for once, surprise the forum and not share one of your ignorant, bigoted and racist comments about Muslims? My comments about Muslims are based on reality. Which you've basically acknowledged by not contradicting me with a list of peaceful, freedom loving Muslim nations. Your anti-Semitism, on the other hand, is the product of your own ignorance. Edited April 17, 2015 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 18, 2015 Report Posted April 18, 2015 I am just reminding you how your system is rotting from the inside. Also, there is nothing wrong with caring about the stability of the world and wanting less wars and destruction. No, you're just reminding me of your own bias against Israel while your own nation seeks and benefits from the same "rotting from the inside". Lots of other wars and destruction to worry about too. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
marcus Posted May 24, 2015 Report Posted May 24, 2015 US just blocked the UN sponsored NPT conference calling for a nuclear-free Middle East --yes you read it correctly: the US, President Obama's administration, just prevented a mere statement at the UN that the region must be free of nuclear weapons! Why? You guessed it--because Israel does not like the region to be nuclear weapon free --yes you read it correctly again--because Israel--the European apartheid settler colony --wants to be the only power in the region with nuclear weapons--so the whole hullabaloo about "the Iran nuclear issue" is a joke--a cynical, disgusting power politics, which has nothing to do with actually preventing the spread of the weapons of mass destruction! period! Link Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
eyeball Posted May 24, 2015 Report Posted May 24, 2015 Now that's chutzpah. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 24, 2015 Report Posted May 24, 2015 Now that's chutzpah. Sure is....guess which nation has provided the most uranium for America's (and UK) nuclear weapons arsenal ? ...and still does. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
eyeball Posted May 24, 2015 Report Posted May 24, 2015 Your's truly's of course. Shipped abroad in asbestos blankets - labelled in both official languages. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Shady Posted May 24, 2015 Report Posted May 24, 2015 Hey how's the "historical" deal working out? Quote
sharkman Posted May 24, 2015 Report Posted May 24, 2015 US just blocked the UN sponsored NPT conference calling for a nuclear-free Middle East --yes you read it correctly: the US, President Obama's administration, just prevented a mere statement at the UN that the region must be free of nuclear weapons! Why? You guessed it--because Israel does not like the region to be nuclear weapon free --yes you read it correctly again--because Israel--the European apartheid settler colony --wants to be the only power in the region with nuclear weapons--so the whole hullabaloo about "the Iran nuclear issue" is a joke--a cynical, disgusting power politics, which has nothing to do with actually preventing the spread of the weapons of mass destruction! period! Link I was wondering why you were so badly misreading this story, I'm not sure if it's because you're up so early(you've said you're Canadian) or because of your massive anti-US/West bias. It's probably both. Quote
marcus Posted May 25, 2015 Report Posted May 25, 2015 I was wondering why you were so badly misreading this story, I'm not sure if it's because you're up so early(you've said you're Canadian) or because of your massive anti-US/West bias. It's probably both. Let me know what part of the story was misread. Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
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