Keepitsimple Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) It's more than an hour after Stephen Harper and Thomas Mulcair have addressed the nation and there's no sign of Justin Trudeau who was expected to speak immediately after. How can someone who aspires to be Prime Minister fail to speak at such a critical time? This, after failing to show up for the ISIS debate on Day One and handing the reins to Marc Garneau on Day Two. Do the issues go beyond his "handlers"? Is it an indicator that he cannot handle stressful situations? Thoughts? Excuses? Edited October 23, 2014 by Keepitsimple Quote Back to Basics
Scared.In.Canada Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 I ewatched his news conference the other night. Or W5 or whatever it was. It surprises me that he is absent during this national emergency! Quote
Keepitsimple Posted October 23, 2014 Author Report Posted October 23, 2014 Text from Harper and Mulcair speeches......both very fitting......Mulcair made Canadians proud by putting aside partisanship in troubling times: But I'm here tonight in solidarity, side-by-side with my colleagues, with our Prime Minister and with all Canadians. Link: http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ottawa-shooting-harper-mulcair-speak-about-attack-1.2809530 Quote Back to Basics
Big Guy Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 I ewatched his news conference the other night. Or W5 or whatever it was. It surprises me that he is absent during this national emergency! If you wanted any information or sense of leadership then you had to watch American TV. Obama was on TV by 4 pm. giving assurances that things were in control and we had to find out the name of the shooter from American networks. I was expecting Harper to make his speech on CNN but am glad he chose Canadian TV - this time. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Topaz Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 For all those wondering about Justin he did made a speech early in the day and CTV has the video, which I couldn't get to work but I went to the Lib.website and this was his speech http://www.liberal.ca/ Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 His hair isn't ready? God the rednecks are really gettin' stupid tonight! Quote
Smallc Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 On my planet we've actually invented something called a joke. You might look into it. It's actually pretty good. Quote
Smallc Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) . Edited October 23, 2014 by Smallc Quote
Shady Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 Today was the beginning of the end of any real chance Justin had of winning in the next federal election. Quote
Shady Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 God the rednecks are really gettin' stupid tonight! That's your retort to somebody making a joke at your Dear Leader's expense? Calling them a redneck? Didn't you trot out that redneck name calling in another thread as well? Come up with something new, and at least a little witty. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 That's your retort to somebody making a joke at your Dear Leader's expense? Calling them a redneck? Didn't you trot out that redneck name calling in another thread as well? Come up with something new, and at least a little witty. People who can't rise above attempts to smear someone by discussing nothing more than their hair are not to be taken seriously. The witty posts you probably didn't get. Ask BC, he can help you...maybe. Quote
dre Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 Such a critical time National Emergency Ummmm one wacko shot a guy... If THATS a national emergency then we are in a lot of trouble if some really serious ever happens. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
dre Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 People who can't rise above attempts to smear someone by discussing nothing more than their hair are not to be taken seriously. The witty posts you probably didn't get. Ask BC, he can help you...maybe. I think SmallC was probably kidding. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
On Guard for Thee Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 In which case I apologize for over reacting. Quote
jbg Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 It's more than an hour after Stephen Harper and Thomas Mulcair have addressed the nation and there's no sign of Justin Trudeau who was expected to speak immediately after. How can someone who aspires to be Prime Minister fail to speak at such a critical time? This, after failing to show up for the ISIS debate on Day One and handing the reins to Marc Garneau on Day Two. Do the issues go beyond his "handlers"? Is it an indicator that he cannot handle stressful situations? Thoughts? Excuses? He is doing a psychological analysis of the troubled background of the killer. He is figuring how he could have helped. I suspect he'll announce that he would create a Cabinet ministry called Minister of Psychology and Interlocutor for Social Work and name himself the minister. A PM can carry two portfolios. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Derek 2.0 Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 Two interesting opinion pieces, one from several days ago and the other just prior to today's events. The first, from Rex Murphy in the National Post: Mr. Mulcair’s presence in Parliament, which showed few obvious dividends for so long, is finally starting to tell. The NDP leader has placed himself back in the political equation, and at the very time that the fragility of the Liberals — in having tied themselves so eagerly to their leaders’ persona and lifestyle — is starting to show. Is Mr. Mulcair more solid, more substantial an opposition leader? Is he, in the favourable sense of the word, a more serious leader in a very serious time? Could the NDP be closer to the centre than the Liberals? Strangely enough, that’s possible. Of course, this opinion piece was penned days before these two terror attacks, but in this present light, and the very Statesmen like response from Mr Mulcair, it adds credence to Murphy's question....... And from earlier this morning, from CBC/308.com 's Eric Grenier: Liberal support fell particularly steeply in Ontario, where the party slipped nine percentage points to just 32 per cent (two points up on the Tories). The New Democrats made a nine-point gain to reach 28 per cent, the highest result for the NDP in Ontario in any poll since February. To put that into context, the Liberals have averaged 43 per cent in polls conducted in Ontario over the last five months, with the NDP averaging 18 per cent. So is this notable shift in support from the Liberals to the NDP an anomaly or a sign of things to come? It should be noted that although the EKOS poll painted a very different picture of the race in Ontario (the Liberals were at 49 per cent, followed by the Conservatives at 32 per cent and the NDP at 16 per cent), it was conducted before Abacus's survey. Both were taken after the vote on the mission had been held, but as Abacus's survey is the more recent it could be registering any impact that criticism of Trudeau's position has had. I think in the context of today's events, the author's closing line sums up the political narrative in the weeks and months ahead: Will the mission in Iraq be a turning point on the road to 2015? More data in the coming weeks may give us a better idea. And that will be answered by the collective response of Canadians.......Will Canadians seek vengeance or retrenchment against radical Islam, in all its forms, going forwards? Quote
waldo Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 It's more than an hour after Stephen Harper and Thomas Mulcair have addressed the nation and there's no sign of Justin Trudeau who was expected to speak immediately after. How can someone who aspires to be Prime Minister fail to speak at such a critical time? This, after failing to show up for the ISIS debate on Day One and handing the reins to Marc Garneau on Day Two. Do the issues go beyond his "handlers"? Is it an indicator that he cannot handle stressful situations? Thoughts? Excuses? Simple, you really look too desperate here! as for your liberties taken here... neither Harper, or Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird or Defence Minister Rob Nicholson, showed up for the evening debate; Harper also didn't show up in Parliament the next day... it was left to Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird to take questions from the Opposition. Trudeau asked a couple and then, in kind, Garneau (as the Liberal's Foreign Affairs critic) fielded the rest. as for your weasel effort here, why did it take 'Dear Leader' 9 hours to "speak to the nation", hey? 9 hours, oh my! As for your "handler" nonsense, there was no Q/A... they were, of course, all prepared speeches delivered by each of Harper, Mulcair and Trudeau. Care to speak to the words and delivery of the fragile, shaky and at times smirking Harper to the other prepared deliveries... Trudeau address: Mulcair address: Harper address: Quote
waldo Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 On my planet we've actually invented something called a joke. You might look into it. It's actually pretty good. it's a redneck joke - you've done yourself proud! Quote
waldo Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 Ummmm one wacko shot a guy... If THATS a national emergency then we are in a lot of trouble if some really serious ever happens. bingo! Quote
Keepitsimple Posted October 23, 2014 Author Report Posted October 23, 2014 The Trudeau speech apparently came around 10:15 last night - two hours after Harper and Mulcair had spoken. I'm not a Trudeau fan but like many Canadians, I was interested in hearing from all the leaders. I can only think that many Canadians who might have been thinking of voting for the Liberals this time round, were waiting to hear from Trudeau also - and were disappointed. Yet even after the two hour wait, he could do no better than read from a prepared script - whether that's his own fault or that of his communications team for not having a teleprompter is irrelevant at this time. Two hours late - and juxtaposed on Harper and Mulcair's statesmanlike - leader-like efforts.....well, it just re-enforces the narrative. Quote Back to Basics
BubberMiley Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 Speaking of timing, it didn't take long for the CPC partisan hacks to try to exploit this tragedy at all. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Boges Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 What no call for the War Measures Act? Quote
Scared.In.Canada Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 What no call for the War Measures Act? Only a Trudeau will do that. Quote
waldo Posted October 23, 2014 Report Posted October 23, 2014 Speaking of timing, it didn't take long for the CPC partisan hacks to try to exploit this tragedy at all. Simple is sure doing his part here... and he's doubling down with his last post... he's really, really miffed cause JT's address wasn't presented to suit his personal schedule! Of course, how telling is it that I put up a link to that address and Simple hasn't word-one to actually say about it! Apparently, Simple thinks Harper spoke "off-the-cuff" for 7 minutes... while JT and Mulcair read "prepared text"! Quote
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