Rue Posted September 26, 2014 Report Posted September 26, 2014 (edited) I saw my handle so I owe you a response. I have given up reading your posts because I fully understand your position; Israel good - Everybody else bad. Rue is knowledgeable - Everybody who disagrees is stupid. To criticize anything about Israel makes you an anti-Semite. Big Guy, dre, marcus, Hudson etc are terrorist apologists. If you are not Jewish then you have no right to criticize anything about Israel or Jews. Israel is a beacon of democracy that should be emulated by other nations. Israel has a right to any land that Israel feels it has a right to. Most of the folks posting on this board have no idea of what is happening in the Middle East and should not comment. I really do not need any more reminding - There, see I do get it! I assume that any future responses that you make will be directed to other posters since I have gotten your message. I have no intention of wasting another few minutes of my life in reading another repeat of the same thing. As to what I call you - I have no intention of calling you anything since I will not be calling you at all. You may call me Big, or you may call me Guy - just do not call me late for dinner. Good Grief! Shalom!!!! P.S. See what can be explained in 300 fewer words than your post. You got it, then decided to be petulant in response. Your also showed: 1-you project onto others your own thoughts and then try claim they originated them; 2-for someone who says he does not read posts, you restate the same posts in your responses. In regards to 1, you evidence narcissism in your choice of words, i.e., an inability to seperate your own feelings and thoughts from those of others. You express them as the same. In regards to 2, you show thin skin, i.e., for someone quick to dismiss the opinions of others and claim they mean nothing to you in one breath, in the very next breath you take, your words manifest a feeling of being slighted and a need to defend yourself which I would contend is a further indication of your narcissism. If my opinions had meant nothing to you, you would not have responded. One other thing. What the Shalom is supposed to be funny? Tee hee giggle giggle you laugh at Hebrew now? Hee hee you used a Jew word hee hee hee. Smiley face? That's how you address me? What that is supposed to show contempt for me because I am a Jew? Move along Big Guy. The passive aggressive giggling is not going to bait me. In fact I am here to once again redirect the discussion back to the actual thread and that is the war in Yemen which you clearly have nothing to contribute. The presence of al-Qaeda insurgency in Yemen has resulted in an on-going conflict between the Yemeni government assisted by the West and in particular Britan and the US and Saudi Arabia and al-Qaeda affiliated cells trying to dismantle the government. As early as 2001 maybe even earleir the government came into conflict with terror cells that are affiliated with al Quaeda but may not have started out that way. This conflict has continued ever since. On January 14, 2010, the conflict was so wide-spread, Yemen declared open war on al-Qaeda inits country, or more accurately put, teror cells affiliated with Al Quaeda. Yemen did not just find itself battling Sunni extremists but Shiite extremists in its Northern border region in as well as network of very loosely affiliated Yemenites seeking separatiinin the south. In 2011, Sunni extremists managed to capture the Abyan Governorate and thendeclared their own state or Emirate at the end of March 2011. Sound familiar. Its what ISIL did as well and got their idea from. There was another battle that exploded and ran through the year 2012, in the southwest and this culminated in May of 2013 in Sunni extremists blowing up Yemeni's main oil pipleine.the flow of crude oil.[20] The civil war between the Yemeni government and Al Quaeda continues. The provinces of Bayda and Handrawat are uncontrolled. If one looks at the role of Saudi Arabia they will see their intelligence chief Badr orchestrated a crack down on Al Quaeda affiliates fighting the governmernt but at the same time funded Al Nusra, the Al Quaeda wing in Syria, Al Quaeda in Libya to get rid of Ghaddafi and at one point Al Quaeda in Iraq. Obama and Erdogan played that same two faced game but Erdogan and Obama then strained their relationship with Badr when they backed Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood directly insultig Badr who then financed the disposal of Morsi from Egypt and the puting into place the current Egyptian military. This move by Saudi Arabia, pissed off Obama and Erdogan but caused a convergence in foreign poliy concerns between Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Israel and Jordan who all now believe both Sunni and Shiite exteremists are equally as problematic. Those 4 nations are agreed that Assad, Hezbollah and Iran are a danger to the region but so are Sunni extremists. The actual constellation now between Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Israel as well as Kuwait and the UAE is the constellation the previous US regimes before Obama supported but Obama rejected. Obama thought a new alliance with the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt (Morsi), the alliance with Erdogan in Turkey (an open Muslim Brotherhood supporter who uses its hand signs every chance he gets in public) and overtures to Iran would be the way to obtain a new order in the Middle East. It blew up in Obama's face as he one by one alienated Egypt, Isael, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Iraq and Syrian moderate Sunnis and Libyan moderate Sunnis not to mention India, China and Russia. Badr the Saudi intelligence Chief has much influence in the Middle East using his oil revenue to buy his temporary alliances. Right now its to Saudi Arabia's interest to get rid of Assad, Hezbollah on the one hand, and Sunni extremists against Arab monarchies on the other hand. The problem is those Sunni extremists against Arab monarchies (i.e., Kuwait, UAE, Bahrain, S. Arabia) up until now are the only ones who have kept the Shiite extremists in check. If these Sunni extremists are crushed whether it be in Yemen, Syria, Iraq, an imbalance will arise empowering the Shiite radicals who right now are subdued as the West and SA attack ISIL and Al Quaeda their enemies but will come right back at SA and the West once they cripple their Sunni extremist enemy. Its a precarious and dangerous game and in the past Egypt, Jordan and Israel were very careful in avoiding the appearance of taking sides and keeping both extremist sides in check Saudi Arabia tried as well picking and choosing who it financed sometimes in agreement with the US other times in direct conflict with Obama. Yemen has always been part of the theatre of conflict between Sunnis and Shiites, and Sunnis and Sunnis. Edited September 26, 2014 by Rue Quote
Big Guy Posted September 26, 2014 Author Report Posted September 26, 2014 “When words are scarce they are seldom spent in vain.” - William Shakespeare “Words without thoughts never to heaven go.”- William Shakespeare “The more the words, the less the meaning, and how does that profit anyone?” - Ecclesiastes 6:11 Give it a rest already. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Hudson Jones Posted September 26, 2014 Report Posted September 26, 2014 In regards to the seizure of land referred to by Big Guy I believe it is illegal and an impediment to peace. Thank you. What should be done to stop them from continuing these illegal acts? Should U.S. threaten to hold back the $3 billion+ a year Israel receives? Sanctions? What do you suggest? Because it doesn't look like the Israeli government is into stopping the continuous land grab. Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
GostHacked Posted September 26, 2014 Report Posted September 26, 2014 (edited) You got it, then decided to be petulant in response. Your also showed: 1-you project onto others your own thoughts and then try claim they originated them; Right, call them an anti-semite then. Tell them they are terrorist apologists again. Speaking of projecting. Rant rant rant..... Also, sometimes, less is more. Try it Rue. Edited September 26, 2014 by GostHacked Quote
Big Guy Posted October 16, 2014 Author Report Posted October 16, 2014 Looks like Yemen is continuing its descent into a failed state. Different militias and have been carving the country apart and the previous government has lost control; http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/10/houthi-fighters-seize-yemen-city-ibb-2014101643647369813.html I do not think the USA coalition is going to get much help from Yemen in its attack on ISIS. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
GostHacked Posted January 20, 2015 Report Posted January 20, 2015 (edited) http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-30903516 Control is lost Big Guy. Rebels have surrounded the Yemen President's residence. Shia Houthi rebels in Yemen's capital Sanaa have shelled the president's home, shattering a ceasefire. President Abdrabbuh Mansour Hadi was reported to be inside the house but an official insisted that he was safe. The attack on Mr Hadi's home came after the rebels entered the presidential palace in another part of the city following a brief clash with guards. Yemen, a key US ally in the fight against al-Qaeda in the region, has been beset by unrest for months. Houthi militias, who are seeking greater autonomy for their home province, overran Sanaa in September after moving out of their northern stronghold. However, the capital's presidential buildings have so far remained outside their control. Good thing those drone strikes are weakening the rebels. Or are they meant to help the rebels? I am not sure anymore. Edited January 20, 2015 by GostHacked Quote
Big Guy Posted January 20, 2015 Author Report Posted January 20, 2015 I believe that Yemen is another of those states at which the West looks at as bad guys, very bad guys and "don't know". The rebels are looked at as Al Qaeda and the government as state terrorist financers. I guess you have to see who is pointing whose rifle at who. Like yourself, I find the idea of somebody at a computer terminal in Phoenix Arizona deciding where to drop bombs when those on the ground in Yemen have yet to identify the good guys. But what good is having bombs and drones if you cannot use them? Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Rue Posted January 21, 2015 Report Posted January 21, 2015 (edited) Big Guy you look at Yemen as bad guys. You are projecting your simplistic cognitive process on others. Political risk analysis does not engage in such analysis using concepts of good versus bad guys. Risk analysis tries to predict possible and/or probable cause and effect patterns of behaviour (trends) to assist with then creating contingency plans to put into action to address negative consequences or effects. Modern risk analysis that Lloyd's of London really first had to perfect and is the model for most nations intelligence analysis doesn't define good or bad guys. That is how your mind works. In risk analysis there is no good or bad, there are trends that have negative (limiting) or positive(beneficial) impact as to one's interests. At one level war is said to have a negative impact, but at another, a positive impact. War using one level of analysis obviously destabilizes, kills, etc. but on another generates profit making through the sales of military equipment. So there is no good or bad, there are just negative or positive effects depending on what perspective analysis is being used. Big Guy even the World Wrestling Federation has abandon the good (babyface) v. bad scripts. Their characters now are a mix of both. Try watch some WWF shows. It will help you evolve past the script you are working with. Come on. Hulk Hogan,Sgt.Slaughter, the Rock, Stone Cold, th BIg Show, the Undertaker, they all went good bad good. Keep up. The only one who defies all analysis was my favourite Rowdy Roddy Piper. Edited January 21, 2015 by Rue Quote
-1=e^ipi Posted January 21, 2015 Report Posted January 21, 2015 The Houthi's are probably the least islamist group in Yemen, but the West will undoubtably call them terrorists and try to overthrow them since our BFF, Saudi Arabia, doesn't like them. Quote
GostHacked Posted January 21, 2015 Report Posted January 21, 2015 (edited) Big Guy you look at Yemen as bad guys. You are projecting your simplistic cognitive process on others. He did none of that. You should read his post again. Both Big Guy and I have brought up the point of it being harder to determine who the real terrorists are. That is a valid point and needs to be expressed. Edited January 21, 2015 by GostHacked Quote
Big Guy Posted January 21, 2015 Author Report Posted January 21, 2015 (edited) So Big Guy is an anti-Semitic, Jew hating, ignorant, Putin loving, anti-Zionist, Israeli undermining, terrorist apologist with simplistic cognitive process. Who would even bother to read what a bad person like that would post? Oh, you may add overweight, elderly, bad breath sometimes and prone to flatulate when laughing heartily. Opps - there goes another one! Thank you Rue for a readable response and another unsolicited lesson - this one is on "risk analysis" I believe. I will file it in its appropriate file and give it the attention it deserves. See, I do read your posts that are short and to the point. Edited January 21, 2015 by Big Guy Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Big Guy Posted January 21, 2015 Author Report Posted January 21, 2015 In an attempt to correct my simplistic cognitive process I have dealt deeper into what is happening in Yemen. It is perfectly clear as explained in the following: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2015/01/yemen-crisis-201512010294461878.html Clarity is important when you begin to label combatants as good guys or bad guys. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
dre Posted January 21, 2015 Report Posted January 21, 2015 Big Guy you look at Yemen as bad guys. You are projecting your simplistic cognitive process on others. Political risk analysis does not engage in such analysis using concepts of good versus bad guys. Risk analysis tries to predict possible and/or probable cause and effect patterns of behaviour (trends) to assist with then creating contingency plans to put into action to address negative consequences or effects. Modern risk analysis that Lloyd's of London really first had to perfect and is the model for most nations intelligence analysis doesn't define good or bad guys. That is how your mind works. In risk analysis there is no good or bad, there are trends that have negative (limiting) or positive(beneficial) impact as to one's interests. At one level war is said to have a negative impact, but at another, a positive impact. War using one level of analysis obviously destabilizes, kills, etc. but on another generates profit making through the sales of military equipment. So there is no good or bad, there are just negative or positive effects depending on what perspective analysis is being used. Big Guy even the World Wrestling Federation has abandon the good (babyface) v. bad scripts. Their characters now are a mix of both. Try watch some WWF shows. It will help you evolve past the script you are working with. Come on. Hulk Hogan,Sgt.Slaughter, the Rock, Stone Cold, th BIg Show, the Undertaker, they all went good bad good. Keep up. The only one who defies all analysis was my favourite Rowdy Roddy Piper. So you didnt read his post, in other words, and just posted random disjointed thoughts that came to mind? Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
GostHacked Posted January 21, 2015 Report Posted January 21, 2015 In an attempt to correct my simplistic cognitive process I have dealt deeper into what is happening in Yemen. It is perfectly clear as explained in the following: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2015/01/yemen-crisis-201512010294461878.html Clarity is important when you begin to label combatants as good guys or bad guys. I agree that was my concerns in Syria when we saw Turkey giving the FSA a base of operations. But then we saw ISIS/Al-WQueda start to make it's way into Syria. So who are the bad guys? Assad? The FSA? Al-Queda/ISIS ?? Who are the west arming? Quote
Big Guy Posted February 6, 2015 Author Report Posted February 6, 2015 Looks like the "rebel" group has won. The Houthi rebels are a Shia based organization that has been trying to get Western influence out of their country; http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2015/02/yemen-houthi-rebels-announce-presidential-council-150206122736448.html Being Shia based they are anti-ISIS who are Sunni based so they must be good guys - but they have just deposed a government friendly to the West so they must be bad guys. I guess we should be sending some airplanes with bombs into Yemen and kill a few bad guys - if/when we can figure out who they are. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
eyeball Posted February 6, 2015 Report Posted February 6, 2015 We'll know, especially if they try to set up a democracy. If they don't we'll know they're probably the sort we can do business with. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Rue Posted February 7, 2015 Report Posted February 7, 2015 (edited) Big Guy in post 32, Big Guy you stated; " I believe that Yemen is another of those states at t which the West looks at as bad guys". That is a projection. It is you Big Guy projecting your belief on the "West". In your world, Bug Guy you are a psychic. Yu have a magic power that is able to determine the thought patterns of the hundreds of millions of people in the "West" and so can pronounce they have exact same values about Yemen. Lol. Larry, Moe, Curly. A trilogy. Edited February 7, 2015 by Rue Quote
GostHacked Posted February 7, 2015 Report Posted February 7, 2015 It's not the people, but how our government presents a stance on our behalf. Quote
Rue Posted February 8, 2015 Report Posted February 8, 2015 Big Guy once again based on an article you read, you think you have it all figured out and someone has "won". What is wrong with you seriously? Why would you think you can grasp the complex maze of issues that have inter-connected in Yemen and now think someone has "won"? Why would you think what you read is accurate and even if it was, its not just one a sequence of on-going cause and effect events that have not finished? Can you not grasp that the Middle East is not a World Wrestling federation match with good and bad guys who "win" or "lose". No this is not some Vice McMahon script where Sgt.Slaughter defeats the Shiek after originally defending him. The civil war in Yemen has not even started. This is just the beginning of another explosion no different than in Iraq,Syria,and Somalia. Its not a baseball game with a score, its a complex chain reaction of disjointed and inter-connected events that continue to mutate in shape, form and consequence. Hey but please, continue with the colour commentary. You have it all figured out. By the way its not called a touch Its called a goal. The guy with the big pads, is called a goalie not a Gordie. Gordie was a right winger. No no, not that kind. Geez wait until someone has to explain how the Zamboni machine works. Stick to lawn bowling, Quote
Big Guy Posted March 14, 2015 Author Report Posted March 14, 2015 So the coalition of the dumb is busy in dealing with the civil war between Sunni and Shia in Iraq while another USA rooster comes home to roost. Yemen is also in a civil war and soon Iran will have another war ally; http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/03/houthis-secured-aid-package-iran-150314123957118.html We managed to upset any balance in the Middle East and Iran is slowly putting it back together - under its own wing. Iran is a major part of the ground war against ISIS and will have to have a permanent presence in Iraq after the victory. It is supporting Jordan and Syria's Assad. It will now easily take over Yemen. Time for Canada to start talking to Iran as our next partner in the Middle East. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
GostHacked Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 Big Guy, Iran is eventually going to get caught up in all of it. Afghanistan to one side, Iraq on the other side. Syria is close, all in more chaos than ever. Iran has been under the gun for decades. Stuxnet was given a pass when it was found out who was behind it. And I suspect all those Iranian scientists who met unfortunate ends (assassination) were carried out by elements of the Israeli intelligence services. Aka Mossad. But now it seems that something happened that allowed the strife between Sunni and Shiite to go at each other as much as we are seeing now. Iran is funding some stuff, so is Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the UAE. Syria has had over 200,000 deaths according to the latest reports since this war started 5 years ago. Cities are being decimated and what do you do to rebuild even if all the fighting stops tomorrow? Yemen is just another stop on this world tour of destabilization. I also love this new so called 'allegence' between Boko Haram and ISIS. Good propaganda to keep people scared. Quote
Big Guy Posted March 22, 2015 Author Report Posted March 22, 2015 It is official, ISIS or Al Qaeda or a combination of both is now in control of Yemen; http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2015/03/evacuates-100-special-forces-yemen-airbase-150321160333019.html What were 100 US special forces and a whole bunch of American drones doing in Yemen anyway? So now we can bomb ISIS in Iraq, Syria (if Assad asks us to) and Yemen. I remember the president of the USA calling ISIS a "junior varsity" team. Well this JV team, with the support of the local Sunnis looks like it might win this tournament. When was the last time a JV team won the NCAA championship? Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
jbg Posted March 22, 2015 Report Posted March 22, 2015 Big Guy, Iran is eventually going to get caught up in all of it. Afghanistan to one side, Iraq on the other side. Syria is close, all in more chaos than ever. Iran has been under the gun for decades. Stuxnet was given a pass when it was found out who was behind it. And I suspect all those Iranian scientists who met unfortunate ends (assassination) were carried out by elements of the Israeli intelligence services. Aka Mossad. But now it seems that something happened that allowed the strife between Sunni and Shiite to go at each other as much as we are seeing now. Iran is funding some stuff, so is Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the UAE. Syria has had over 200,000 deaths according to the latest reports since this war started 5 years ago. Cities are being decimated and what do you do to rebuild even if all the fighting stops tomorrow? Yemen is just another stop on this world tour of destabilization. I also love this new so called 'allegence' between Boko Haram and ISIS. Good propaganda to keep people scared. Great idea to lift sanctions and allow Iran to go nuclear. </sarcasm> The question is do they turn the entire Middle East into a parking lot, or just Israel? Obama's real bright on this one. Not. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
GostHacked Posted March 22, 2015 Report Posted March 22, 2015 Great idea to lift sanctions and allow Iran to go nuclear. </sarcasm> The question is do they turn the entire Middle East into a parking lot, or just Israel? Obama's real bright on this one. Not. Wow, you guys never give up do you. Relentless and narrow tracked in the rhetoric. Quote
jbg Posted March 22, 2015 Report Posted March 22, 2015 Wow, you guys never give up do you. Relentless and narrow tracked in the rhetoric. OK, what would be a "broader" approach? You seem to have no truck with nuclear energy in Japan and plenty of tolerance for it in Iran. Go figure. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
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