DogOnPorch Posted July 10, 2019 Report Share Posted July 10, 2019 1 hour ago, dialamah said: But of course DoP says they're "lying" cause God forbid any individual or group of Muslims should condemn violence! What would happen to his "Muslims are evil" narrative then? How does one tell which Muslims will act on Allah's orders to fight the Unbeliever until all is for Islam? Where on Earth is Islam being practiced properly as the Religion of Peace that we can all use as an example of Islam's peacefulness? Where? You never say... I wonder why that is? I'm supposed to kowtow to your pet religion out of respect....respect for what, again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dialamah Posted July 10, 2019 Report Share Posted July 10, 2019 Muslim leaders call for tolerance. More than 1200 Islamic leaders met in Mecca in May for the Muslim World League's Conference on Moderation. The conference represented 139 countries and 27 Islamic sects. The 4-day discussion was focused on how to combat intolerance, hatred and extremism in Muslim communities and around the the world: "Our solution is the Charter of Mecca, a document of groundbreaking frankness that received the endorsement of the entirety of the Islamic scholars who participated. It received political backing as well through its first signatory, Saudi King Salman bin Abdulaziz Al-Saud. How do we win this battle? From the Muslim world, it starts with commitments the likes of which we have never formally adopted or connected to tolerance. Our charter demands that we safeguard natural resources and manage industrial development; support climate treaties, fight hunger and poverty; eliminate disease and discrimination, and preserve the human rights of all people, including women and minorities. It includes a special obligation to empower women through social equality and economic opportunity, and to reject any effort that is disrespectful or marginalizing toward women. We will take each of these commitments home with us, and exhort our community members to adhere to them. We must." An aspirational document, with some powerful backing, for the reform of Islam. Not a solution and unlikely to see results quickly, but a step in the right direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted July 10, 2019 Report Share Posted July 10, 2019 6 hours ago, jacee said: Religion itself is disgusting, imo. Catholic, United and Anglican 'church people', raping, torturing and killing Indigenous kids, killing the babies born of rape, burning their remains in school furnaces or cementing them into foundations, or selling them alive into sexual slavery. And that's just Canada. Religion is the true evil in the world. Some are more evil than others. There is no such thing as Thou Shalt Not Kill in Islam. Though this gets hauled out regularly as an indication of Islam's benevolence... Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors. https://quran.com/5/32 Note the bold print...there are two conditions where it is okay to kill according to Islam. 1. For a soul: ie honor....revenge. 2. For causing fitnah...corruption...mischief...a very broad term...against Islam. That's a pretty big 'but'.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted July 10, 2019 Report Share Posted July 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, dialamah said: An aspirational document, with some powerful backing, for the reform of Islam. Not a solution and unlikely to see results quickly, but a step in the right direction. If only you'd fight Islam with the contempt you reserve for its critics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dialamah Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said: If only you'd fight Islam with the contempt you reserve for its critics. You aren't a critic. You are an Islamophobic propagandist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, dialamah said: Muslim leaders call for tolerance. More than 1200 Islamic leaders met in Mecca in May for the Muslim World League's Conference on Moderation. The conference represented 139 countries and 27 Islamic sects. The 4-day discussion was focused on how to combat intolerance, hatred and extremism in Muslim communities and around the the world: "Our solution is the Charter of Mecca, a document of groundbreaking frankness that received the endorsement of the entirety of the Islamic scholars who participated. It received political backing as well through its first signatory, Saudi King Salman bin Abdulaziz Al-Saud. How do we win this battle? From the Muslim world, it starts with commitments the likes of which we have never formally adopted or connected to tolerance. Our charter demands that we safeguard natural resources and manage industrial development; support climate treaties, fight hunger and poverty; eliminate disease and discrimination, and preserve the human rights of all people, including women and minorities. It includes a special obligation to empower women through social equality and economic opportunity, and to reject any effort that is disrespectful or marginalizing toward women. We will take each of these commitments home with us, and exhort our community members to adhere to them. We must." An aspirational document, with some powerful backing, for the reform of Islam. Not a solution and unlikely to see results quickly, but a step in the right direction. That is great, but Marocc won't be happy! The meeting also decided to come out with a proper interpretation of the verses in the Quran .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marocc Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 6 hours ago, jacee said: Religion itself is disgusting, The way you perceive it as is. It's always the ones who know nothing about any religion that condemn all of them and then blame the faults of man on religion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marocc Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 29 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: If only you'd fight Islam with the contempt you reserve for its critics. Do you think you're "fighting Islam"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 45 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: How does one tell which Muslims will act on Allah's orders to fight the Unbeliever until all is for Islam? Fuck you have no idea who at work is going to backstab you. Stupid premise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marocc Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 32 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Some are more evil than others. There is no such thing as Thou Shalt Not Kill in Islam. Though this gets hauled out regularly as an indication of Islam's benevolence... Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors. https://quran.com/5/32 Note the bold print...there are two conditions where it is okay to kill according to Islam. 1. For a soul: ie honor....revenge. 2. For causing fitnah...corruption...mischief...a very broad term...against Islam. That's a pretty big 'but'.... Soul=murder. An assault in the western law is a broad term too. Why is it not a problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 31 minutes ago, dialamah said: You aren't a critic. You are an Islamophobic propagandist. I only quote your Quran and Hadiths. So if that's propaganda...well...you really are screwed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marocc Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 Just now, GostHacked said: Fuck you have no idea who at work is going to backstab you. Stupid premise. It was a trick question. If you refute it it's almost like you agree with the false interpretation he's been offering for who knows how long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marocc Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 Just now, DogOnPorch said: I only quote your Quran and Hadiths. So if that's propaganda...well...you really are screwed. Usually you don't quote the Hadith you write your own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Marocc said: Soul=murder. An assault in the western law is a broad term too. Why is it not a problem? Just now, Marocc said: Usually you don't quote the Hadith you write your own. I don't need you to understand Islam. Thanks for your input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marocc Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 50 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Where on Earth is Islam being practiced properly as the Religion of Peace that we can all use as an example of Islam's peacefulness? Where? You never say... Everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 Just now, Marocc said: Everywhere. Thus the problem with Islam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, GostHacked said: Fuck you have no idea who at work is going to backstab you. Stupid premise. That's right. There's zero way to know who is going to dive a 777 into the Chrysler Building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marocc Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said: Thus the problem with Islam. You admit it's peacefully practiced everywhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marocc Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 Just now, DogOnPorch said: That's right. There's zero way to know who is going to dive a 777 into the Chrysler Building. And yet you think you know better than others. Even better than the police. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 Just now, Marocc said: You admit it's peacefully practiced everywhere? If you call the Third Reich peaceful...sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 Just now, Marocc said: And yet you think you know better than others. Even better than the police. Squirm all you like...Islam kills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marocc Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: I don't need you to understand Islam. Thanks for your input. This thread has never even approached the topic of Islam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: That's right. There's zero way to know who is going to dive a 777 into the Chrysler Building. Or which terrorists to back that wont eventually fly planes into the WTC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Marocc said: This thread has never even approached the topic of Islam. Again...I don't need you to "get Islam". Edited July 11, 2019 by DogOnPorch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 Just now, GostHacked said: Or which terrorists to back that wont eventually fly planes into the WTC. That almost made sense...try again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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