socialist Posted April 13, 2014 Report Share Posted April 13, 2014 I'm pleased to say that I am glad Calgary is becoming a more progressive city and kicking the ReformCons to the curb. Ron Liepart will be a great CPC representative as he is much more a centrist. If Calgary can acquire common sense then there is hope for Canada. I will predict now that there is no way the CPC will win the next election. However if they were to nominate more centrist moderates like Liepart, they may have a chance. The Reform Alliance movement is dead. Good riddance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWTT Posted April 13, 2014 Report Share Posted April 13, 2014 Ya I think that after Mandela died, it came out how he wanted Mandela to remembered as he put it "a terrorist and a communist". I believe that this was just too much for the conservatives to bear! WWWTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted April 13, 2014 Report Share Posted April 13, 2014 What makes this provincial, exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty AC Posted April 13, 2014 Report Share Posted April 13, 2014 This should be a federal topic. Anyway, I'm glad that the guy Kenney endorsed is out and that the new guy will be hard for the PMO to muzzle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idealisttotheend Posted April 13, 2014 Report Share Posted April 13, 2014 Liepert is clearly the better man, this is good news for Canada.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Guy Posted April 13, 2014 Report Share Posted April 13, 2014 Going after golden boy cabinet minister Jason Kenney is not the best way to begin your participation in the Conservative Party. I hope that he maintains his independence and does not become just another back bench Harper policy regurgitating head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted April 13, 2014 Report Share Posted April 13, 2014 Liepert is clearly the better man, this is good news for Canada.... Why on earth would you think this? Granted, Anders was dumb as a back of pucks, but he was essentially harmless. Liepert was minister of finance, energy and health for a government which, despite years and years of a booming economy and huge oil wealth, ran the government into huge deficits. It's no surprise liberals and NDPers got themselve tory cards just so they could vote for this big spending 'progressive' conservative and against the hated Anders. And Liepert shows his political accumen by snarling at Jason Kenney his first day, before he's even an MP. Reeeaaal smart, that. Kenney is one of the most important people in cabinet and the frontrunner to replace Harper one day. And Harper HATES it when his people use the media to snap at each other. So I imagine Liepert will be given a basement office somewhere with leaky steam pipes on the walls, and told to sit in the back row of the commons, away in the corner, and keep his mouth shut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted April 13, 2014 Report Share Posted April 13, 2014 (edited) Going after golden boy cabinet minister Jason Kenney is not the best way to begin your participation in the Conservative Party. I hope that he maintains his independence and does not become just another back bench Harper policy regurgitating head. Most likely, from his history, he will continue sniping in public and be bootted from caucus. Edited April 13, 2014 by Argus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socialist Posted April 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2014 Why on earth would you think this? Granted, Anders was dumb as a back of pucks, but he was essentially harmless. Liepert was minister of finance, energy and health for a government which, despite years and years of a booming economy and huge oil wealth, ran the government into huge deficits. It's no surprise liberals and NDPers got themselve tory cards just so they could vote for this big spending 'progressive' conservative and against the hated Anders. And Liepert shows his political accumen by snarling at Jason Kenney his first day, before he's even an MP. Reeeaaal smart, that. Kenney is one of the most important people in cabinet and the frontrunner to replace Harper one day. And Harper HATES it when his people use the media to snap at each other. So I imagine Liepert will be given a basement office somewhere with leaky steam pipes on the walls, and told to sit in the back row of the commons, away in the corner, and keep his mouth shut. Maybe he will cross the floor. I like Liepert from what I've read. He doesn't take shit from anyone. Who the hell is Jason Kenney anyway? I'm going to love watching the CPC implode from the inside. After 2015 we won't see another CPC government in 25 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted April 13, 2014 Report Share Posted April 13, 2014 Maybe he will cross the floor. I like Liepert from what I've read. He doesn't take shit from anyone. Who the hell is Jason Kenney anyway? I'm going to love watching the CPC implode from the inside. After 2015 we won't see another CPC government in 25 years. You like him because he's not conservative. The problem in Alberta is that people with political ambition join the consrevatives because no other party has much of a chance of success. But he won't be much of a problem. He's a one term man. They'll boot him, and then another conservative will be elected in that riding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWTT Posted April 13, 2014 Report Share Posted April 13, 2014 Going after golden boy cabinet minister Jason Kenney is not the best way to begin your participation in the Conservative Party. I hope that he maintains his independence and does not become just another back bench Harper policy regurgitating head. Actually Kenney should have kept his mouth shut! It is very odd for an MP or MPP to take sides in an riding association nomination meeting! The PM also took sides from a link that I read earlier which is very odd??? There could be a revolt brewing in the conservative ranks. But if there is, their keeping a good lid on it now. WWWTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWTT Posted April 13, 2014 Report Share Posted April 13, 2014 Why on earth would you think this? Granted, Anders was dumb as a back of pucks, but he was essentially harmless. Liepert was minister of finance, energy and health for a government which, despite years and years of a booming economy and huge oil wealth, ran the government into huge deficits. It's no surprise liberals and NDPers got themselve tory cards just so they could vote for this big spending 'progressive' conservative and against the hated Anders. And Liepert shows his political accumen by snarling at Jason Kenney his first day, before he's even an MP. Reeeaaal smart, that. Kenney is one of the most important people in cabinet and the frontrunner to replace Harper one day. And Harper HATES it when his people use the media to snap at each other. So I imagine Liepert will be given a basement office somewhere with leaky steam pipes on the walls, and told to sit in the back row of the commons, away in the corner, and keep his mouth shut. Ya from what I've read, Liepert is no heavens send! Only shows how crappy the pickens are. WWWTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idealisttotheend Posted April 13, 2014 Report Share Posted April 13, 2014 I am told Liepert is actually a bit of a Red Tory, though he keeps these opinions inside of caucus and represents the Party line outside of caucus (as is appropriate for an MLA). As well, he is tough, and well spoken despite a lack of formal education. Anders just strikes me as a clown, sort of Rob Ford light. Harper would do well to put Liepert in cabinet if there is another Tory majority.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socialist Posted April 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2014 You like him because he's not conservative. The problem in Alberta is that people with political ambition join the consrevatives because no other party has much of a chance of success. But he won't be much of a problem. He's a one term man. They'll boot him, and then another conservative will be elected in that riding. Yes, I like him becuse he's not a blue conservative. He has a pile of support in Signal Hill. Look at how he easily took out Anders. It's easy to sell memberships. Anyone can buy a membership. Calgary is quickly becoming a left leaning city and they have one of the most successful mayors in Canadian history, the left leaning Nenshi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socialist Posted April 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2014 Also, I would definitely consider buying a CPC membership to vote for a riding representative who I found favorable. Absolutely. That's democracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted April 13, 2014 Report Share Posted April 13, 2014 Yes, I like him becuse he's not a blue conservative. He has a pile of support in Signal Hill. Look at how he easily took out Anders. It's easy to sell memberships. Anyone can buy a membership. Calgary is quickly becoming a left leaning city and they have one of the most successful mayors in Canadian history, the left leaning Nenshi. I actually hate the business of 'selling memberships' to bring in non-party people who immediately get to vote in party elections. It leads to a rush of people who are only there to vote for their guy, and then have no further interest in the party. If I had devoted myself to a party riding association for years, and suddenly some new guy comes in and then recruits hundreds of people to make him the candidate I think I'd quit the party. There ought to be a rule that new members aren't allowed to vote until the election AFTER this one, and then only if they have been participating members of the riding association. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty AC Posted April 13, 2014 Report Share Posted April 13, 2014 The brass do love parachuting in candidates though. I'm sure this is one of those festering issues that makes Reformers secretly want to beat Harperists with a shovel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socialist Posted April 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2014 I am told Liepert is actually a bit of a Red Tory, though he keeps these opinions inside of caucus and represents the Party line outside of caucus (as is appropriate for an MLA). As well, he is tough, and well spoken despite a lack of formal education. Anders just strikes me as a clown, sort of Rob Ford light. Harper would do well to put Liepert in cabinet if there is another Tory majority.... He won't be in cabinet because the Cons will not even win a minority in 2015. I am making that prediction now. I predict a Trudeau majority as he will engage young voters and for the first time in decades young voters will turn out in droves to vote for someone they can relate to, Justin Trudeau. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socialist Posted April 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2014 I actually hate the business of 'selling memberships' to bring in non-party people who immediately get to vote in party elections. It leads to a rush of people who are only there to vote for their guy, and then have no further interest in the party. If I had devoted myself to a party riding association for years, and suddenly some new guy comes in and then recruits hundreds of people to make him the candidate I think I'd quit the party. There ought to be a rule that new members aren't allowed to vote until the election AFTER this one, and then only if they have been participating members of the riding association. Are you also against democracy like the CPC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 He won't be in cabinet because the Cons will not even win a minority in 2015. I am making that prediction now. I predict a Trudeau majority as he will engage young voters and for the first time in decades young voters will turn out in droves to vote for someone they can relate to, Justin Trudeau. You mean someone as ignorant and shallow as they are? You might be right. Young people are all about style, after all, and Trudeau is all about style over substance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 Are you also against democracy like the CPC? I don't think you actually know the meaning of the term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWTT Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 Yes, I like him becuse he's not a blue conservative. He has a pile of support in Signal Hill. Look at how he easily took out Anders. It's easy to sell memberships. Anyone can buy a membership. Calgary is quickly becoming a left leaning city and they have one of the most successful mayors in Canadian history, the left leaning Nenshi. If I remember correctly, the conservative riding association president/executive wanted him gone ASAP!!!! Looks like they finally got their act together! Anders was popular within the party because he can raise money! Don't count this guy out, he's a career politician and there's still lots of nomination meetings left till the next election! WWWTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 What makes this provincial, exactly? yes, why is a federal riding nomination topic in the Provincial forum? Perhaps MLW member 'socialist' can explain... or alternatively ask for it's proper positioning in the Federal Politics forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socialist Posted April 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 yes, why is a federal riding nomination topic in the Provincial forum? Perhaps MLW member 'socialist' can explain... or alternatively ask for it's proper positioning in the Federal Politics forum. Yes, I realized a made a mistake MLW member waldo. Sorry to all those whose lives wre interrupted because I placed this thread under provincial politics instead of federal politics where it should rightfully belong. But also, leipert has a strong background in provincial politics. Actually I can see this thread being both a provincial and federal thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted April 14, 2014 Report Share Posted April 14, 2014 (edited) Actually Kenney should have kept his mouth shut! It is very odd for an MP or MPP to take sides in an riding association nomination meeting! The PM also took sides from a link that I read earlier which is very odd??? There could be a revolt brewing in the conservative ranks. But if there is, their keeping a good lid on it now. WWWTT It's actually not unusual at all for MPs to express support for long serving colleagues. And perhaps, like me, they have doubts about whether this guy is any kind of a conservative at all, and see him as a self-promoter who just longs for power under any banner. Edited April 14, 2014 by Argus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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