BC Conservatives drop 3 candidates

[jacee]

The BC election has hit a few bumps along the way with both the NDP and Cons dropping candidates due to unacceptable behaviours and views:

- impaired driving

- Godwin's law

- anti-women esp single parents

- anit-native, anti-quebecers

It's interesting to see what the political system, at least the major parties, can't tolerate.

http://www.vancouversun.com/touch/story.html?id=8304906

B.C. Conservative leader John Cummins said his party has done the best it can with the resources available to vet candidates, after being forced to drop three candidates in the first weeks of the campaign.

The provincial party dismissed Mischa Popoff in the Boundary-Similkameen riding over comments he made in newspaper columns that Cummins said were insensitive and disrespectful, to women and single mothers in particular.

Earlier this week, the provincial Conservatives dropped Ian Tootill from the ballot in Vancouver-False Creek over statements he made on Twitter last fall about Adolf Hitler.

Tootill asked "Who's really to blame? Hitler or the people who acted on his words?" That was just two days after North Vancouver-Lonsdale candidate Jeff Sprague stepped down in the midst of a drunk driving investigation.

http://boundarysentinel.com/news/conservatives-drop-mischa-popoff-after-controversial-statements-24430#.UXvogjdZ420

"The Party called his comments 'insensitive and disrespectful.' What they couldnt say was that they were untrue; single parent families, particularly single mothers, are responsible for a disproportionate amount of juvenile criminal behaviour.

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The BC Conservatives issued a press release Thursday with the following statement:

"Mr. Popoff's various comments were insensitive and disrespectful, particularly to women and single mothers who are, in fact, heroes to their children and their communities in many cases. We are a party that believes in a respectful airing of views. Mr. Popoff's statements were unacceptable and he has been removed as a candidate."

Popoff's statements included criticism of single mothers for having children "without a man by their side," and for calling the Missing Women Inquiry a "waste of money," reported the Vancouver Sun.

http://www.vancouversun.com/touch/story.html?id=8297084

In March 2012, he wrote: No one can blame a woman who experiences divorce or abandonment after having kids. The issue is with women who enter parenthood with their eyes wide open without a man by their side, either by using a man to get pregnant or through a sperm bank.

In either case, unless theyre very well off, the kids they bestow upon this world are headed for disaster. Why applaud, let alone condone this?

On the Missing Women Inquiry, he wrote: No one wants prostitutes to go missing. But guess what? They do, and no inquiry is going to change that.

Edited April 27, 2013 by jacee

[kimmy]

Mr Popoff is a columnist and rather outspoken individual whose controversial comments could have been discovered with a couple of minutes of Google searching. It is hard to believe that they just didn't have the resources to properly vet him.

Further, Mr Popoff was the Vice President of the BC Conservative Party until 2010, so it's not like they didn't know what they were getting.

-k

[Guest Kenneth]

I don't see how anything any of these candidates has said is particularly controversial - and it seems a little ironic that mainstream political parties would be dumping candidates for the slightest remarks about special interest groups, while they care not a smidge when one of their candidates goes haywire about men, esp. those that are white.

[kimmy]

I think calling the missing women inquiry a waste of money is pretty controversial. Especially considering the question being asked wasn't why prostitutes vanish, but rather why the police paid so little attention to it.

-k

[Guest Kenneth]

Not really. The inquiry is agenda-driven and completely distorts the true nature of the problem of missing people in this country. People of all sorts are missing and except for immediate friends and families, nobody really cares. So then what does this inquiry accomplish? it demonstrates that certain groups should receive special attention, while the rest are neglected and forgotten.

All these candidates should be allowed to run and allow the public to decide - who knows, they may actually win and voter turn-out may increase because voters can actually vote for someone they agree for once.

Edited April 27, 2013 by Kenneth

[jacee]

I don't see how anything any of these candidates has said is particularly controversial

I guess that's why it's good for these things to come to light, for broader educational purposes.

- and it seems a little ironic that mainstream political parties would be dumping candidates for the slightest remarks about special interest groups, while they care not a smidge when one of their candidates goes haywire about men, esp. those that are white.

Can you give us a link where that happened? Edited April 28, 2013 by jacee

[Charon]

Too bad for John Mccain that he didn't know how to use google before vetting his vice candidate.

Edited April 28, 2013 by Charon

[jacee]

Conservatives repeat background checks after fourth candidate purged

A B.C. Conservative candidate was fired over the weekend for offensive comments made on social media, just days after the party dropped two other candidates over similar issues.

In an April 18 post under the Twitter handle @RonnieMemo, Herbert wrote:

I can balance a budget and flip a pancake! #ChristyClarks breakfast @ #DeDutch. Gag me with a spoon, bitch. You tripled the debt: HELLO!

I hope their second round choices work out better!

Edited April 28, 2013 by jacee

[Guest Kenneth]

I hope he still runs as an independent.

edit to add: Why do we hold these people to a different standard when politics is inherently ruthless and corrupt? Who do they think they're kidding nowadays???

Edited April 28, 2013 by Kenneth

[jacee]

I hope he still runs as an independent.

edit to add: Why do we hold these people to a different standard when politics is inherently ruthless and corrupt? Who do they think they're kidding nowadays???

Well let's see ... maybe the language of the beer-soaked bar and the blogrant and lockerroom just don't fly with the vast majority of decent Canadians, the target group of the major parties.

We'll see how they do as independents.

You really want "Gag me with a spoon, bitch" as Prime Minister?

Edited April 28, 2013 by jacee

[Guest Kenneth]

"the language of the beer-soaked bar and the blogrant and lockerroom just don't fly with the vast majority of decent Canadians"

Maybe that's why voter turnout is in steady decline and prime time tv shows that incorporate that kind of stuff are more popular than ever. Hockey is Canada's national sport - ever heard some of the potty mouthed language that players use or the positive response that blood-spilling brawls garner from the "vast majority of decent Canadians" who are watching the game?

[jacee]

"the language of the beer-soaked bar and the blogrant and lockerroom just don't fly with the vast majority of decent Canadians"

Maybe that's why voter turnout is in steady decline and prime time tv shows that incorporate that kind of stuff are more popular than ever. Hockey is Canada's national sport - ever heard some of the potty mouthed language that players use or the positive response that blood-spilling brawls garner from the "vast majority of decent Canadians" who are watching the game?

Ah ... so you do want "Gag me with a spoon, bitch!" for PM?

[Guest Kenneth]

If you don't have a decent response to my post then don't waste my time - your trolling only makes you look worse.

[jacee]

If you don't have a decent response to my post then don't waste my time - your trolling only makes you look worse.

Oh, so you don't want "Gag me with a spoon, bitch!" for PM?

[Joe Btfsplk]

The inquiry is agenda-driven and completely distorts the true nature of the problem of missing people in this country. People of all sorts are missing and except for immediate friends and families, nobody really cares. So then what does this inquiry accomplish?

British Columbians might want to know if the police allowed a serial killer to go on killing in their neighbourhood. Most people might not have cared about missing prostitutes, but I think they care about psycho killers in their midst and if the cops didn't do anything about it, that's a major dereliction of their duty.

I don't see how anything any of these candidates has said is particularly controversial - and it seems a little ironic that mainstream political parties would be dumping candidates for the slightest remarks about special interest groups, while they care not a smidge when one of their candidates goes haywire about men, esp. those that are white.

You said it, brother. Despite holding the overwhelming majority of positions of power in the country, white males are the new Natives. Come, let us sing in solidarity...

"We shall overco-o-ome,

We shall overco-o-me..."

[Guest Kenneth]

If you as a leftist are, in theory, oppossed to discrimination, then why does discrimination against "whites" cause you to become sarcastic? Most of these "whites" that you complain about who are in power are of your ilk - so are you telling me that no matter how stridently leftists someone is, no matter if they sincerely believe that all forms of racism and discrimination are wrong, that everybody is euqal, it's still an issue that they're white? Really?

There are serial killers on the loose right as we speak. You may think that from watching CSI and Murdock Mysteries solving homicide cases is a piece of cake, but really it's not. It's easy for special interest groups to scream discrimination, and arm chair Jessica Fletchers like yourself to expect that all homicides should be solved and police 100% omnicient - but reality works differently. If you think there's a problem with unsolved crimes, then why don't you study criminology and become a private investigator or police officer yourself. Heck, why even bother doing that - start solving crimes now, right now and on your own. There are so many missing people out there, why can't you solves these cases yourself then?

Edited May 2, 2013 by Kenneth

[jacee]

Who are you talking to?

[Joe Btfsplk]

If you as a leftist are, in theory, oppossed to discrimination, then why does discrimination against "whites" cause you to become sarcastic? Most of these "whites" that you complain about who are in power are of your ilk - so are you telling me that no matter how stridently leftists someone is, no matter if they sincerely believe that all forms of racism and discrimination are wrong, that everybody is euqal, it's still an issue that they're white? Really?

First, just because I oppose discrimination doesn't automatically make me a "leftist". Second, I was being sarcastic not because discrimination against whites is a problem, but because you think it is. I didn't think I'd have to point that out, but now you know. And third, I wasn't complaining about whites in positions of power, just pointing out that they're there, to rebut your point about discrimination against whites.

There are serial killers on the loose right as we speak. You may think that from watching CSI and Murdock Mysteries solving homicide cases is a piece of cake, but really it's not. It's easy for special interest groups to scream discrimination, and arm chair Jessica Fletchers like yourself to expect that all homicides should be solved and police 100% omnicient - but reality works differently. If you think there's a problem with unsolved crimes, then why don't you study criminology and become a private investigator or police officer yourself. Heck, why even bother doing that - start solving crimes now, right now and on your own. There are so many missing people out there, why can't you solves these cases yourself then?

Why should I have to do someone else's job for them? The police are hired to do a job and are paid to do it by taxpayers like you and me. If they're not doing their job, wouldn't you as a taxpayer want to know?

[Guest Kenneth]

First, just because I oppose discrimination doesn't automatically make me a "leftist". Second, I was being sarcastic not because discrimination against whites is a problem, but because you think it is. I didn't think I'd have to point that out, but now you know. And third, I wasn't complaining about whites in positions of power, just pointing out that they're there, to rebut your point about discrimination against whites.

Why should I have to do someone else's job for them? The police are hired to do a job and are paid to do it by taxpayers like you and me. If they're not doing their job, wouldn't you as a taxpayer want to know?

Well, then what are you? If you think that discrimination is a problem, then it follows that you should have a problem with discrinination against whites. Do you believe in a society where all people are treated equally? Doesn't seem like it to me.

I suggested means by which you could make it your job. I would hardly accuse the police of not doing their job - the fact that we live in a society that is relatively peaceful and safe for the vast majority of us. Unless you want a police state, there are always going to be limitations on what can be done - especially in a "free" society where people can choose to enter into high-risk lifestyles.

[scribblet]

The BC NDP have dropped their candidate Jane Shin for what are saying is a racial slur made about 10 years ago.

[Guest Kenneth]

This surprises me, but I have to give them credit for having the courage to do so. I've found that Asians in general have an exaggerated sense of their own supposed superiority - something that in whites would be deemed "racism".

[The_Squid]

The BC NDP have dropped their candidate Jane Shin for what are saying is a racial slur made about 10 years ago.

They did?

"I'll use myself as an example. If I made those comments today, I should be fired," Kwan told the Sun. "Jane made those comments in the context of a gaming forum 11 years ago, and I think today she has matured. She is a sincere, respectful person. She oozes respect when you talk to her."

Read more: http://www.burnabynow.com/Shin+stays+despite+comment/8332182/story.html#ixzz2SHc9aMKT