August1991 Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 (edited) “I’ve known Justin since he was a child. He’s young, articulate, attractive – a flawlessly bilingual young man. What’s not to like with this picture?” he said. “Anybody who … treats Justin Trudeau with scorn or derision or underestimates him, does so at his own peril,” he said. “We’ll see what happens in the future; it’s a long way from here to there. But no one should underestimate Justin. He’s a man of some consequence.” CTV 1. Mulroney is a federalist. 2. Mulroney - at arm's length - wants to help Harper. Edited April 20, 2013 by August1991 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry J. Fortin Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 What the former PM was saying was that in his view, Trudeau is in fact formidable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 Wouldn't you like to be on board the PM's plane flying to Thatcher's funeral and hear what Mulroney and Harper had to say to each other? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 I would take Mulroney a thousand times over Stephen Harper. Here is a Conservative that understands the place of social responsibility within the paradigm of conservative values. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundlander Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 I would take Mulroney a thousand times over Stephen Harper. Here is a Conservative that understands the place of social responsibility within the paradigm of conservative values. Best recent Prime Minister! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 Best recent Prime Minister! Let's not get too carried away here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 Best recent Prime Minister! Last 25 years for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 I would take Mulroney a thousand times over Stephen Harper. Here is a Conservative that understands the place of social responsibility within the paradigm of conservative values. Also a crook who takes big payoffs in cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 Also a crook who takes big payoffs in cash. Sure but the guy we elected after was also a crook so it boils down to the times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 Sure but the guy we elected after was also a crook so it boils down to the times. No, it doesn't. It boils down to them both being crooks with the morals of alley cats. I might not like Harper very much but there's no evidence at all he has that particular moral flaw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeyhands Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 Sure but the guy we elected after was also a crook so it boils down to the times. How so? Pretty big statement there Punked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 The man was a crook who stole from taxpayers. I really don't care to hear anything Mulroney has to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 How so? Pretty big statement there Punked. Adscam seriously? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC_chick Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 No, it doesn't. It boils down to them both being crooks with the morals of alley cats. I might not like Harper very much but there's no evidence at all he has that particular moral flaw. Evidence usually surfaces just before the fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 Evidence usually surfaces just before the fact. If you have any you're welcome to bring it up. But I do not presuppose corruption and theft in people, not even politicians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 No, it doesn't. It boils down to them both being crooks with the morals of alley cats. I might not like Harper very much but there's no evidence at all he has that particular moral flaw. Harper's fiscal improprieties are all electoral based. Let's not forget that these issues seem to always come to light after their terms are over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 Harper's fiscal improprieties are all electoral based. Let's not forget that these issues seem to always come to light after their terms are over. Chretien's corruption was fairly well-known after his first term, and rumors surrounded Mulroney and his ministers for much of his term in office. I would be very surprised if anything similar ever came to light about Harper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 What the former PM was saying was that in his view, Trudeau is in fact formidable. He's not formidable at all. His name is formidable, and he's formidable enough to take advantage of that. Barring his name, he'd still be a drama teacher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 He's not formidable at all. His name is formidable, and he's formidable enough to take advantage of that. Barring his name, he'd still be a drama teacher. I'm not sure whose opinion I should believe now. The guy who has watched Trudeau grow up and been around him his whole life or the internet poster with an opinion to the contrary. I'll have to think about this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 I'm not sure whose opinion I should believe now. The guy who has watched Trudeau grow up and been around him his whole life or the internet poster with an opinion to the contrary. Because Brian Mulroney is famous for his honesty and integrity, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 I'm not really sure what he stands to gain here for simply saying one should not dismiss Trudeau. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 Because Brian Mulroney is famous for his honesty and integrity, right? I thought this was all about age and experience, which of course trumps Harper's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted April 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 (edited) No, it doesn't. It boils down to them both being crooks with the morals of alley cats. I might not like Harper very much but there's no evidence at all he has that particular moral flaw.Aside from Left or Right, and given what is happening in Montreal, don't underestimate Harper's reputation for being Mr. Clean (another Claude Ryan or U Thant!) The fact is that Harper has never accepted a brown envelope - and even people in Toronto know that he's not that "kinda guy". ---- With that said, in a pickle, I'd prefer to have a smart crook by my side if the alternative was an honest fool. Edited April 22, 2013 by August1991 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted April 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 My OP? I simply reckoned that Mulroney's comment will help Trudeau Jnr in French Canada (Quebec) and hurt Trudeau Jnr in English Canada (ROC). Ultimately, Mulroney's comment helps Harper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 Aside from Left or Right, and given what is happening in Montreal, don't underestimate Harper's reputation for being Mr. Clean (another Claude Ryan or U Thant!) The fact is that Harper has never accepted a brown envelope - and even people in Toronto know that he's not that "kinda guy". ---- With that said, in a pickle, I'd prefer to have a smart crook by my side if the alternative was an honest fool. Except no one has ever suggested Harper was a fool, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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