Guest Derek L Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Exactly, since attempting to confiscate private arms would require searching every single private residence in the United States……….Even if only 1% of the population “objected” to such a notion and favoured the “Cold dead hands approach” , that’s 3 million plus Waco Texas like stand-offs…….. That’s unimaginable, and like suggested before, would lead to civil unrest and a complete breakdown in American society……….At the end of the day, when only 43% of Americans in favour of further restrictions on Semi-auto firearms, quite clearly, that’s all that maters……. Just running said numbers further..........In Waco, two ATF and two FBI members were killed..........times four officers by 3 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 . Is it only a stupid idea when it comes from the NRA ? Sort of ...yes. The people they suggested who could be utilized left a lot to be desired. Not to mention , in spite of their good intentions and horrible math skills, they could never afford what they proposed to do and fund. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 No, that would be a very stupid, impractical gun. The U.S. already has many patents for "smart guns" with RFID keys, bio-metrics, etc. Great for video games. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Derek L Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Sort of ...yes. The people they suggested who could be utilized left a lot to be desired. Not to mention , in spite of their good intentions and horrible math skills, they could never afford what they proposed to do and fund. Why is that? Many are LEOs and military, and said programs are already used by law enforcement and the military.......... And what makes you so sure of the funding? Since the shooting, an average of 8000 new members have been joining the NRA daily....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Exactly, since attempting to confiscate private arms would require searching every single private residence in the United States…… That's not going to happen, as Cuomo is just shooting his mouth off. I remember going through this back in 1968 when they went after handguns. Only problem was that unlike RFK, MLK wasn't killed with a handgun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Derek L Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Why? You don’t understand the impact on electronic devices frequent recoil plays………Or the fact that next to no gun owner is going to go along with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Derek L Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 That's not going to happen, as Cuomo is just shooting his mouth off. I remember going through this back in 1968 when they went after handguns. Only problem was that unlike RFK, MLK wasn't killed with a handgun. Remington 760 30-06 Amish Machine Gun.......... My favorite freezer filler is my 760 Carbine .308...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Why? Because to be effective, a firearm has to be somewhat accurate and reliable, and not rendered useless by interlocks or safeties. Shooting people, among other targets, is exactly what many owners intend to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Remington 760 30-06 Amish Machine Gun.......... .....My favorite freezer filler is my 760 Carbine .308...... Good luck trying to confiscate all of those.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Derek L Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Good luck trying to confiscate all of those.... And unlike it's semi-auto cousin, the Remmy 742, not a single feeding issue in nearly 40 years: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bL-n7Y0SUEw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Guns are here to stay folks. Yes but ammo comes and goes. Control how it comes and watch the effect on how it goes. The least that governments big and small throughout the land should start doing is taxing the living shit out of ammo and guns - to offset the cost of policing the liberty and freedom to possess them in the first place. That should include all medical, burial, official investigation costs etc etc that must occur when liberty backfires...no pun intended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Why is that? Many are LEOs and military, and said programs are already used by law enforcement and the military.......... And what makes you so sure of the funding? Since the shooting, an average of 8000 new members have been joining the NRA daily....... Do the math. At anywhere between 40-000 to $100,000 per school......yea, the NRA cannot afford it with 8 million members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Derek L Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Yes but ammo comes and goes. Control how it comes and watch the effect on how it goes. The least that governments big and small throughout the land should start doing is taxing the living shit out of ammo and guns - to offset the cost of policing the liberty and freedom to possess them in the first place. That should include all medical, burial, official investigation costs etc etc that must occur when liberty backfires...no pun intended. It already is, and as mentioned by BC, many can make their own ammo...........Or like most, myself included, buy in bulk and have enough socked away to start our own Religion or a reasonable sized coup on a third world Island nation…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Derek L Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Do the math. At anywhere between 40-000 to $100,000 per school......yea, the NRA cannot afford it with 8 million members. The NRA is offering to foot the bill of implementing and designing individual security arrangements for each school, not paying for policing or other security measures…………Think of it as free in home estimate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 It already is, and as mentioned by BC, many can make their own ammo..... Yes many can but few actually do. ......Or like most, myself included, buy in bulk and have enough socked away to start our own Religion or a reasonable sized coup on a third world Island nation…. I guess that just speaks for itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 The NRA is offering to foot the bill of implementing and designing individual security arrangements for each school, not paying for policing or other security measures…………Think of it as free in home estimate. It is a bad idea regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Derek L Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 It is a bad idea regardless. 53% of Americans like it........that's all that maters in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Wait until the Mental Illness Database is rolled out. Mark my words, there will be little difference in the result should it fall to a Neighbourhood Watch committee or a Big Brother bureaucracy to manage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Well, so much for gun control... http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story/2012/12/21/tech-printer-guns.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 Yes but ammo comes and goes. Control how it comes and watch the effect on how it goes. Controlling ammo is a very old idea...dismissed years ago as inadequate because of the huge inventory already stockpiled by owners. The only thing gun owners love more than guns is lots and lots of extra ammunition. The least that governments big and small throughout the land should start doing is taxing the living shit out of ammo and guns - to offset the cost of policing the liberty and freedom to possess them in the first place. That should include all medical, burial, official investigation costs etc etc that must occur when liberty backfires...no pun intended. Already done for tobacco products and alcohol.....people still pay the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacee Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 (edited) Well, so much for gun control... http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story/2012/12/21/tech-printer-guns.html Guns made on 3-D printers more of a reality Idea of home made guns disquieting to U.S. gun-control advocates While saddened by the Connecticut school killing, Wilson said Thursday that protecting the constitutional right to bear arms by giving everyone access to guns is more important in the long term than a single horrible crime. "Clearly what happened in Connecticut was a tragedy," he told The Associated Press. "Still, by affording the Second Amendment protection, we understand events like these will happen." He said he discussed with his partners whether they should suspend their effort, and they all decided it was too important to stop. Gulp. Edited December 23, 2012 by jacee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 Gulp. Such thinking would have the Wright Bros. never inventing controlled flight for fear of what people would do/did with the technology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacee Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 Such thinking would have the Wright Bros. never inventing controlled flight for fear of what people would do/did with the technology. I get that. And this ... He said the technology exists now for a highly motivated group to make a plastic gun on a 3-D printer that could avoid airport scanners. But the equipment is still too expensive for most people. "Nobody right now needs to worry about the bright teenager making a gun on a printer in their bedroom," he said. Except those who can afford $10 000 ... to make 'toys'. Gulp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 Except those who can afford $10 000 ... to make 'toys'. Gulp. Zip guns can be made for less than $5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 (edited) 53% of Americans like it........that's all that maters in the end. Nope. It is a bad idea. BTW 53% of Americans support "Increasing POLICE in schools" not what you say. Please don't lie about polls. Having people at schools with guns who are not police polls somewhere in 30s for support. Edited December 23, 2012 by punked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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