Dalton does it again

[Boges]

This must piss teachers off. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//public/style_emoticons/#EMO_DIR#/laugh.gif

Taxpayers could end up on the hook for paying even more money for the politically motivated cancellation of an Oakville power plant if secret documents are released too soon, Premier Dalton McGuinty warned Friday.

In the wake of a ruling that found Energy Minister Chris Bentley broke the rules by not revealing the papers, the premier is pleading with opposition party leaders for more time to complete negotiations.

“The issue before us is not whether this information should be released, but when,” he wrote in letters to NDP Leader Andrea Horwath and her Progressive Conservative counterpart Tim Hudak.

The speaker of the legislature, Dave Levac, ruled Thursday that the parties have until Sept. 24 to reach a deal on releasing the documents requested by MPPs on the estimates committee in May.

Conservative House Leader Jim Wilson said that deadline is not flexible and urged the minority Liberal government to reveal the papers as soon as possible.

“The solution is simple: hit print and table the documents now,” Wilson told reporters. “The people of Ontario deserve to know what the seat saver program cost.”

Rival parties have been critical of the government for cancelling the Oakville plant — in a riding held by Liberal MPP Kevin Flynn — two years ago this fall and another plant in Mississauga near the end of last fall’s whisker-close election campaign that saw the Liberals’ majority reduced to a minority.

We can't release these documents yet! They contain information that makes us look really really bad. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//public/style_emoticons/#EMO_DIR#/rolleyes.gif

Stick a fork in this party, they're done!

Edited May 29, 2013 by Boges

[Wild Bill]

This must piss teacher off.

We can't release these documents yet! They contain information that makes us look really really bad.

Stick a fork in this party, they're done!

Sadly Boges, they likely are NOT done!

Tim Hudak is an expert at doing nothing to exploit any advantage. Unless the PCs get a more vibrant leader, I expect Dalton will be comfortable in his chair for a while yet.

As I keep saying, any salesman knows that it is not enough to have your competitor look bad. You also have to make yourself look BETTER! People tend to stick with the Devil they know rather than go for an unknown choice.

Hudak has all the inspiration and charisma of overcooked spaghetti! He just doesn't look like a better choice. He is an unknown, in brown shoes and tie. Dalton may keep pissing people off but Tim just doesn't shine enough to sway enough mainstream voters.

It's really a shame.

[Boges]

Sadly Boges, they likely are NOT done!

Tim Hudak is an expert at doing nothing to exploit any advantage. Unless the PCs get a more vibrant leader, I expect Dalton will be comfortable in his chair for a while yet.

As I keep saying, any salesman knows that it is not enough to have your competitor look bad. You also have to make yourself look BETTER! People tend to stick with the Devil they know rather than go for an unknown choice.

Hudak has all the inspiration and charisma of overcooked spaghetti! He just doesn't look like a better choice. He is an unknown, in brown shoes and tie. Dalton may keep pissing people off but Tim just doesn't shine enough to sway enough mainstream voters.

It's really a shame.

I'm buying that less and less.

People can't put a finger on what's wrong with Hudak. I'll tell you the likely reason he lost last October, is Hudak didn't differentiate himself, policy wise, from McGuinty.

Now McGuinty is basically using the Tory platform in trying to legislate a wage freeze on public servants.

[jacee]

Sadly Boges, they likely are NOT done!

Tim Hudak is an expert at doing nothing to exploit any advantage. Unless the PCs get a more vibrant leader, I expect Dalton will be comfortable in his chair for a while yet.

As I keep saying, any salesman knows that it is not enough to have your competitor look bad. You also have to make yourself look BETTER! People tend to stick with the Devil they know rather than go for an unknown choice.

Hudak has all the inspiration and charisma of overcooked spaghetti! He just doesn't look like a better choice. He is an unknown, in brown shoes and tie. Dalton may keep pissing people off but Tim just doesn't shine enough to sway enough mainstream voters.

It's really a shame.

Ya, he tries to talk like a Harris neanderthal,

But he flies like a dodo bird.

Dalton otoh is pure Liberal politician,

Talks like he cares about people,

Governs like a predator.

And he's prone to expensive off-the-cuff mistakes.

Fortunately there is a very viable third alternative in Ontario.

[Boges]

Fortunately there is a very viable third alternative in Ontario.

Winning a bi-election has made the Dipper all cocky now

The Rae government left a more odious reputation than the Harris government.

[Shakeyhands]

The Rae government left a more odious reputation than the Harris government.

Do you REALLY think so?

[Boges]

Do you REALLY think so?

Depends who you ask I suppose. He did what he was elected to do. Got a second majority running on his record.

[MiddleClassCentrist]

I'm buying that less and less.

People can't put a finger on what's wrong with Hudak. I'll tell you the likely reason he lost last October, is Hudak didn't differentiate himself, policy wise, from McGuinty.

Now McGuinty is basically using the Tory platform in trying to legislate a wage freeze on public servants.

Hudak didn't differentiate himself from other conservatives. "Hey, I'm just like this Harper and Ford guy combined!" didn't sell very well. Even a slogan of "A different type of conservative" could have changed it.

Last year's provincial election was more about smoke and mirrors from all parties.

[jacee]

Winning a bi-election has made the Dipper all cocky now

The Rae government left a more odious reputation than the Harris government.

Irrelevant.

[jacee]

Hudak didn't differentiate himself from other conservatives. "Hey, I'm just like this Harper and Ford guy combined!" didn't sell very well. Even a slogan of "A different type of conservative" could have changed it.

I think the problem isn't the sales pitch, but the product. He just doesn't get it done!

[Boges]

I think the problem isn't the sales pitch, but the product. He just doesn't get it done!

Remember McGuinty lost his first election too. John Tory should have been allowed to retain leadership of the party but he ran in a very unsafe riding then forced a popular MPP to step down to try and win a seat in a bi-election in the Kawarthas and got punished for it.

I can't find a link yet but I just heard on the radio the Ontario Liberals are in the mid 20's and the NDP and PCs are statistically tied in the mid 30's but it was also said that the NDP doesn't have a broad enough support across the province to gain too many seats. Proportional representation FTW.

[Boges]

Here's the Link

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/politics/archives/2012/09/20120917-070251.html

Polling company Forum Research projects that would translate into a minority Conservative government. The NDP lose seats because the votes are badly distributed for them.

Based on these figures, Forum projects a seat count of PCs, 48; Liberals, 30; and NDP, 29.

The poll also revealed Premier Dalton McGuinty's popularity is slumping. Only 24% of those polled approve of his leadership of the party.

McGuinty faces a leadership review at the party's annual general meeting in Ottawa the weekend of Sept. 27-30.

Delegates will be asked to vote on a motion asking if they want a leadership convention. Of Liberals polled, 39% said they wanted a leadership convention, while 43% of all Ontarians polled said they'd favour a review.

"Nine years in power have caught up to the Liberals quite suddenly," said Broadview spokesman John Laforet.

"The party brand has taken a number of hits and even Liberals are ready to cast off McGuinty, " he said. "This is all the more serious as Liberal delegates prepare to vote on his future at the end of the month."

[PIK]

The only people that can be blamed for dalton is the people of the 416. They are the ones that keep him in office.

[Boges]

Oh so now this asshat cares about wasting taxpayer money.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1257883--dalton-mcguinty-says-no-documents-until-power-compensation-deal-is-done

Secret documents on the cost of cancelling an Oakville power plant will not be released until a compensation deal is reached with the builder, Premier Dalton McGuinty insisted Monday.

After warning that releasing the documents too soon could “drive up costs for taxpayers” by revealing sensitive information, McGuinty said he’s “asking the opposition parties to recognize that.”

The plant in Liberal MPP Kevin Flynn’s riding was cancelled in the fall of 2010, one year before last October’s provincial election, in what the NDP and Progressive Conservatives call a politically motivated “seat saver” program that has already cost taxpayers for the $190 million Mississauga power plant near Sherway Gardens that was cancelled with less than two weeks to go until the Oct. 6 election in 2011.

The New Democrats were not buying McGuinty’s new argument Monday, saying a ruling last week by Speaker Dave Levac in the legislature found Energy Minister Chris Bentley breached parliamentary privilege by not releasing the documents as demanded in May by MPPs on the estimates committee.

[madmax]

The only people that can be blamed for dalton is the people of the 416. They are the ones that keep him in office.

I don't blame the Electorate one bit.

That same Electorate Elected Rob Ford, and Elected Federal Conservative MPs.

The also Elected a number of NDP MPPs and MPs.

THerefore....

I think Hudaks done a great job of keeping Dalton in office.

Congrats Tim....

and blew 2 by elections too....

Whats that

0 for 5?

And while you got your Hudak blame game fingers pointed at 416

Might I ask how Popular Donna Scully , TV persona , seen daily on CHCH lost in a Very Rural, and Conservative Urban riding outside of 416?

Oh wait, that was the Unions.... or something...

Edited September 17, 2012 by madmax

[madmax]

Oh so now this asshat cares about wasting taxpayer money.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1257883--dalton-mcguinty-says-no-documents-until-power-compensation-deal-is-done

Digging a deep , deep, deep, hole.

[Boges]

Digging a deep , deep, deep, hole.

$40 million to relocate the Oakville Plant to some place called Bath.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1261377--oakville-power-plant-will-cost-public-40m-to-scuttle

Stupid Dalton!