israel's sponsorship of terrorism

[bud]

here is another example of hypocrisy and double standards.

of course, there is israel's nuclear weapons program, which seems to be above criticism. that aside, report after report is confirming that israel is sponsoring a terrorist group to commit terrorism inside iran. what's astonishing are right wing groups, both in the u.s. and canada who are now openly showing their support for the terrorist group, MEK.

An editorial in Rupert Murdoch’s New York Post said on Friday that the MEK deserves a Nobel Peace Prize:

Let’s be frank: Were the MeK to play the critical role in derailing an Iranian bomb, it would be far more deserving of a Nobel Peace Prize than a certain president of the United States we could mention.

And Commentary’s Jonathan Tobin justified the MEK’s action and Israel’s alleged role in financing, arming and training the group:

To those who say it is immoral to use those who have employed terrorism, the only reply can be that it would be far worse for Israel’s government to allow such scruples to prevent them from carrying out actions that might stop the Iranians from going nuclear.

Noticeably, the MEK’s defenders chose not to address the NBC report’s other major disclosure. The MEK reportedly worked with Ramzi Yousef, the terrorist behind the first attack on the World Trade Center, to bomb an Iranian shrine, killing at least 26 people.

link

gotta love it. guiliani, mr. 911, is also praising a terrorist group who was behind the first attack on the WTC.

[bud]

symbiotic fanaticism: giuliani says U.S.-designated terror group MEK--which has killed americans, celebrated 9/11, holds own members hostage, and plotted with '93 WTC bomber ramzi yousef to bomb iranian mosque--should be Time's "person of the year" because they're working with mossad to kill iranian nuclear scientists.

[Shady]

You'd be wiser to cite NBC's actual report, instead of referencing an anti-Israeli mouth piece like ThinkProgress.

[olpfan1]

Both Iran & Israel are in covert war against each other it seems

but it would not surprise me if Mossad were the ones bombing the Israeli embassies in India & Georgia

Edited February 13, 2012 by olpfan1

[olpfan1]

Why would Iran target an embassy in a country like India...India has promised Iran it would not embargo its oil

and it would buy more from Iran .. it does not make sense

unless it was Mossad trying to turn India against Iran

that makes sense

[bud]

You'd be wiser to cite NBC's actual report, instead of referencing an anti-Israeli mouth piece like ThinkProgress.

?

do you have anything to say about your team's embracing of a terrorist group and israel's sponsorship of terrorism?

[bud]

of course, this isn't the first time that israel has been behind terrorism.

An explosive report published late last week by the magazine Foreign Policy, citing half-a-dozen current and former U.S. intelligence officers, claimed that spies with Israel’s Mossad agency were posing as Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) agents to recruit terrorists for a covert war against Iran. An Israeli official, however, dismissed the allegations as “nonsense.”

According to the sources cited in the article, Israeli intelligence operatives were using American passports and wads of U.S. dollars to pose as CIA officers. The deception was reportedly used to recruit members of the notorious Pakistani terror group Jundallah, an organization on the U.S. State Department’s list of foreign terrorist organizations known for assassinations and brutal killings of women and children.

The Israeli operations were taking place in major cities such as London — almost out in the open — according to the report. They were aimed at enlisting the support of violent extremists to help disrupt the Iranian regime’s nuclear program, which many U.S. and Israeli officials have alleged is actually a cover to build atomic weapons.

the u.s. government wasn't too happy about this, but of course, they have no choice but to accept that they can't anger aipac.

Bush administration officials were reportedly furious after learning of the “false-flag” scheme, according to the report. One currently serving U.S. intelligence officer cited in the piece claimed that then-President George W. Bush "went absolutely ballistic" after being briefed on secret memos detailing the alleged Mossad operations.

link

obama took steps to stop the support of terrorist groups by israel while pretending to be american officials. probably why he's considered 'a no friend of israel':

When President Obama took over, however, his administration reportedly curtailed several joint intelligence-gathering operations aimed at Iran.

how is israel considered a friend with actions like this?

"This certainly isn't the first time this has happened, though it's the worst case I've heard of," former Centcom chief and retired U.S. Gen. Joe Hoar told Foreign Policy. "But while false-flag operations are hardly new, they're extremely dangerous. You're basically using your friendship with an ally for your own purposes. Israel is playing with fire. It gets us involved in their covert war, whether we want to be involved or not.”

Edited February 13, 2012 by bud

[Wolf Larsen]

The Israeli government is even crazier than the American government! It becomes difficult to separate fact from fiction when it comes to the war crimes of the Israeli government because Israel does not even acknowledge having nuclear weapons, which everybody knows that they have. Israel with nuclear weapons is a scary thought! Well, the USA with nuclear weapons is also a scary thought!

Anyway, hands off Iran! Leave around alone! Iran has the right to defend itself. Even if Iran is developing a nuclear bomb it has the right to defend itself against the crazy governments of Israel and the USA.

Besides, we heard all that weapons of mass destruction nonsense before in Iraq. And look how that turned out!

If the politicians of Israel and the USA want to have more war why don't the politicians go fight the war themselves? Or at least why don't they send their adult children to fight for a change? It seems like the people doing all the fighting and dying are working class people. The only people these wars are good for are the war profiteers.

[bush_cheney2004]

... Israel with nuclear weapons is a scary thought! Well, the USA with nuclear weapons is also a scary thought!

It's suppose to be a scary thought.

Anyway, hands off Iran! Leave around alone! Iran has the right to defend itself. Even if Iran is developing a nuclear bomb it has the right to defend itself against the crazy governments of Israel and the USA.

So it would be OK if Canada attacked Iran? You know like it attacked Libya?

Besides, we heard all that weapons of mass destruction nonsense before in Iraq. And look how that turned out!

Ding dong...Saddam is dead.

If the politicians of Israel and the USA want to have more war why don't the politicians go fight the war themselves? Or at least why don't they send their adult children to fight for a change?

They do....military service is mandatory in Israel with few exceptions.

It seems like the people doing all the fighting and dying are working class people. The only people these wars are good for are the war profiteers.

Don't forget the "human rights" do-gooders.

[DogOnPorch]

Awwww....you've spoiled his rant. Well done.

[bush_cheney2004]

Awwww....you've spoiled his rant. Well done.

I like his idea....train Canadian Forces pilots to attack Iran in B-2s instead. Problem solved!

[DogOnPorch]

I like his idea....train Canadian Forces pilots to attack Iran in B-2s instead. Problem solved!

Canada never attacks other nations....EVER, EVER, EVER...oh, wait. Yes we do.

[bush_cheney2004]

Canada never attacks other nations....EVER, EVER, EVER...oh, wait. Yes we do.

Please stop...it's like telling a kid there is no Santa Claus.

[DogOnPorch]

Please stop...it's like telling a kid there is no Santa Claus.

Sorry.

[Guest Peeves]

http://ivarfjeld.wordpress.com/2011/03/09/muslim-brothers-lets-wipe-israel-off-the-map/

This is a statement from Kamal al-Halbawi, who this week became the first Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood leader to visit Tehran.

There he announced that he wanted for Egypt what Iran has today: “a true Islamic state.”

“Egypt and the world of Islam as a whole need leaders like President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad,” he said.

Kamal al-Halbawi.

Egypt should join “a new world order with Iran and Venezuela plus Hizbullah and Hamas to chase away the Americans.”

“Every night when I go to bed, I pray to wake up the next day to see Israel is wiped off the map.”

Source: New York Post

My comment:

The state of Israel is a thorn in the eye of the desert demon ‘allah”.

The who Islamic World will soon line up and unite. Their common enemy will be the Jewish state.

The pressure on Israel will be so large, that the Zionist state will be forced to enter into a “peace agreement”. The deal includes giving to Islam more Jewish land, even to return half of the Jerusalem back into occupation by Muslim forces.

Islam and the Catholic religion will merge, and the One World religion will get billions of exited followers.

Israel is about to be deceived. But behold. The true Messiah will return to Israel, and bring judgment on all who have rejected the truth.

[Guest Peeves]

http://ivarfjeld.wordpress.com/2011/03/09/muslim-brothers-lets-wipe-israel-off-the-map/

This is a statement from Kamal al-Halbawi, who this week became the first Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood leader to visit Tehran.

There he announced that he wanted for Egypt what Iran has today: “a true Islamic state.”

“Egypt and the world of Islam as a whole need leaders like President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad,” he said.

Kamal al-Halbawi.

Egypt should join “a new world order with Iran and Venezuela plus Hizbullah and Hamas to chase away the Americans.”

“Every night when I go to bed, I pray to wake up the next day to see Israel is wiped off the map.”

Source: New York Post

My comment:

The state of Israel is a thorn in the eye of the desert demon ‘allah”.

The who Islamic World will soon line up and unite. Their common enemy will be the Jewish state.

The pressure on Israel will be so large, that the Zionist state will be forced to enter into a “peace agreement”. The deal includes giving to Islam more Jewish land, even to return half of the Jerusalem back into occupation by Muslim forces.

Islam and the Catholic religion will merge, and the One World religion will get billions of exited followers.

Israel is about to be deceived. But behold. The true Messiah will return to Israel, and bring judgment on all who have rejected the truth.

[Post To The Left]

http://ivarfjeld.wordpress.com/2011/03/09/muslim-brothers-lets-wipe-israel-off-the-map/

This is a statement from Kamal al-Halbawi, who this week became the first Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood leader to visit Tehran.

There he announced that he wanted for Egypt what Iran has today: “a true Islamic state.”

“Egypt and the world of Islam as a whole need leaders like President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad,” he said.

Kamal al-Halbawi.

Egypt should join “a new world order with Iran and Venezuela plus Hizbullah and Hamas to chase away the Americans.”

“Every night when I go to bed, I pray to wake up the next day to see Israel is wiped off the map.”

Source: New York Post

My comment:

The state of Israel is a thorn in the eye of the desert demon ‘allah”.

The who Islamic World will soon line up and unite. Their common enemy will be the Jewish state.

The pressure on Israel will be so large, that the Zionist state will be forced to enter into a “peace agreement”. The deal includes giving to Islam more Jewish land, even to return half of the Jerusalem back into occupation by Muslim forces.

Islam and the Catholic religion will merge, and the One World religion will get billions of exited followers.

Israel is about to be deceived. But behold. The true Messiah will return to Israel, and bring judgment on all who have rejected the truth.

Why wouldn't you link to the Post article? Why link to a wordpress blog? Trying to drum up hits to your personal blog, eh?

[Bob]

If Israel is behind the recent liquidation of Iranian nuclear scientists (which seems to a dangerous job in Iran, lately!), then good for Israel. The possible acquisition of nuclear weaponry by Iran presents an existential threat to Israel, so Israel has a moral obligation to prevent this from happening. Those who wish to label this as "Israeli terrorism" are engaging in the usual hysterics and attempts to paint Israel with the same brush that is reserved for Islamist filth like Hezbollah and Hamas.

Let's not pretend that Iran doesn't have blood on its hands. It provides support to Hezbollah, Hamas, and other terrorist outfits in and around Israel - including weapons, technology, intelligence, funding, and political/propagandist support. For the purposes of trivia to those that didn't already know - during the summer 2006 Israel-Hezbollah war, Israeli soldiers captured Iranian weapons and tech and intercepted Farsi communications. And that's to say nothing of Iran's complicity in mass murder in two terrorist attack in Buenos Aires in the 1990s, material and political support to terrorists who actively murder American and coalition troops in Iraq, and on and on and on.

If Israel was indeed indeed behind these recent liquidations of Iranian nuclear scientists, then bravo.

[bud]

hey bushcheney? which country are you more loyal to? u.s. or israel? considering this:

of course, this isn't the first time that israel has been behind terrorism.

An explosive report published late last week by the magazine Foreign Policy, citing half-a-dozen current and former U.S. intelligence officers, claimed that spies with Israel’s Mossad agency were posing as Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) agents to recruit terrorists for a covert war against Iran. An Israeli official, however, dismissed the allegations as “nonsense.”

According to the sources cited in the article, Israeli intelligence operatives were using American passports and wads of U.S. dollars to pose as CIA officers. The deception was reportedly used to recruit members of the notorious Pakistani terror group Jundallah, an organization on the U.S. State Department’s list of foreign terrorist organizations known for assassinations and brutal killings of women and children.

The Israeli operations were taking place in major cities such as London — almost out in the open — according to the report. They were aimed at enlisting the support of violent extremists to help disrupt the Iranian regime’s nuclear program, which many U.S. and Israeli officials have alleged is actually a cover to build atomic weapons.

the u.s. government wasn't too happy about this, but of course, they have no choice but to accept that they can't anger aipac.

Bush administration officials were reportedly furious after learning of the “false-flag” scheme, according to the report. One currently serving U.S. intelligence officer cited in the piece claimed that then-President George W. Bush "went absolutely ballistic" after being briefed on secret memos detailing the alleged Mossad operations.

link

obama took steps to stop the support of terrorist groups by israel while pretending to be american officials. probably why he's considered 'a no friend of israel':

When President Obama took over, however, his administration reportedly curtailed several joint intelligence-gathering operations aimed at Iran.

how is israel considered a friend with actions like this?

"This certainly isn't the first time this has happened, though it's the worst case I've heard of," former Centcom chief and retired U.S. Gen. Joe Hoar told Foreign Policy. "But while false-flag operations are hardly new, they're extremely dangerous. You're basically using your friendship with an ally for your own purposes. Israel is playing with fire. It gets us involved in their covert war, whether we want to be involved or not.”

[Bob]

Yeah... the day you make a sincere attempt to be honest about this, you'll make a post and actively chastise Iran for sponsoring real terrorism, i.e. the recent attacks in India and Georgia against Israeli diplomats. Why are you pretending to care about terrorism? Your anti-Semitic agenda is clear for all of us to see, you don't do a very good job hiding your hatred of Jews.

[bud]

Yeah... the day you make a sincere attempt to be honest about this, you'll make a post and actively chastise Iran for sponsoring real terrorism, i.e. the recent attacks in India and Georgia against Israeli diplomats. Why are you pretending to care about terrorism? Your anti-Semitic agenda is clear for all of us to see, you don't do a very good job hiding your hatred of Jews.

i think both iran and israel sponsor terrorism.

i don't think anyone here disputes that iran sponsors terrorism here. so what's the point of talking about it when we all agree to it?

however, quite a few people here cannot accept and acknowledge that israel also sponsors terrorism.

notice how the method of trying to kill the israeli diplomats' family was exactly the same as the method used to kill the iranian scientist. a person on a motorcycle places a bomb under the car of the person he wants to kill.

to hypocrites like you, one is an act of terrorism while the other receives your blessing.

i'm curious how long it took you to become so numb towards your own hypocrisy and double standards.

[Bob]

Killing an Iranian scientist involved Iran's developments towards its acquisition of nuclear weaponry is entirely justifiable, if Israel is indeed involved. Iran with nuclear weaponry constitutes and existential threat to Israel. Israeli diplomats operating in India and Georgia, on the other hand....

You are the classical Jew-hating anti-Western leftist who plays the moral relativity card, suggesting that all parties in politics are equal and that somewhat comparable acts are equally justifiable or condemnable. Your ideological ancestors were saying the same thing in the 1930s, suggesting that Churchill's warnings about Nazi Germany's abrogation of the Versailles Treaty and increasing militarization were unfair. After all, perhaps Nazi Germany has a viewpoint, and in-line with your amoral ideology, their viewpoint is equally valid and worth or consideration. If the powers of the Entente can now be militarized, why not Germany?

[Post To The Left]

You are the classical Jew-hating anti-Western leftist who plays the moral relativity card, suggesting that all parties in politics are equal and that somewhat comparable acts are equally justifiable or condemnable. Your ideological ancestors were saying the same thing in the 1930s, suggesting that Churchill's warnings about Nazi Germany's abrogation of the Versailles Treaty and increasing militarization were unfair. After all, perhaps Nazi Germany has a viewpoint, and in-line with your amoral ideology, their viewpoint is equally valid and worth or consideration. If the powers of the Entente can now be militarized, why not Germany?

You're comparing the Iranian nuclear program to appeasement!?!?!? You're such a typical elitist western right wing snob. First sign of trouble, losing the debate and you evoke Nazism, ridiculous. The "threat" that Iran poses FAR from Hitler is more of a communist Cuba. Right now you're like the fascist generals of Kennedy's and Nixon's staff "We've got to nuke the commies in Cuba", "If we let Cuba stay red it will ruin our way of life!" And yet Cuba lived (Castro survived something like 700 assassination attempts) and America goes on.

Edited February 16, 2012 by Post To The Left

[bud]

You are the classical Jew-hating anti-Western leftist

hard to take you seriously when you give such a cowardly response when faced with logic.

would assassinating an israeli nuclear scientist be morally equal?

terrorism is terrorism. as human beings, we have set standards by creating international law that defines acts like assassinations. israel or any other country should not be held above international law.

[Wolf Larsen]

People have talked about Iran supposedly sponsoring terrorism. I do not like the government of Iran, and have no idea whether or not it is true.

However, I can tell you with certainty that the biggest terrorist organization in the world is the United States government, followed by Israel.

The United States government engaged in a terrorist war against the peoples of Iraq, Vietnam, and Afghanistan. In addition, the US government has terrorized the black people for four centuries of brutal racist terror. In addition, the US government appears to be preparing to engage in a war of terror against the American people, as seen in Congress passing legislation and Obama signing into law a bill that will give the US military the right to indefinitely detain Americans without a trial.

The Israeli government is also a terrorist state. The Israeli government is currently conducting a terrorist war against the Palestinian peoples.

Some other posters have correctly pointed out that the Canadian government has joined up with the US government on several occasions to conduct wars of terror against Third World peoples.

One poster, said that the war in Iraq was a good thing because Saddam Hussein is dead. Saddam Hussein may have been a bloody so-and-so, but so is Obama and so was George Bush.

Another poster tried to use the Israeli draft to argue that the rich do actually fight in wars. When I was saying that the rich do not fight in wars that they profit from I was referring to the United States.