nittanylionstorm07 Posted April 25, 2011 Report Posted April 25, 2011 Oooh... look at this party ceiling graphic: http://ipolitics.ca/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Slide07.jpg Quote
Smallc Posted April 25, 2011 Report Posted April 25, 2011 (edited) Holy crap! The NDP are closing in on Harper! No kidding. If this poll is right, there's one very very happy guy...and it isn't Harper. The NDP has doubled their support. That's CRAZY. Edited April 25, 2011 by Smallc Quote
Harry Posted April 25, 2011 Report Posted April 25, 2011 (edited) If the NDP ends up with the most number of seats would Harper and Ignatieff gang up on Layton or would Layton be able to secure the support of one of them? Gee I wonder what Harper says about a coalition of losers now Edited April 25, 2011 by Harry Quote
nittanylionstorm07 Posted April 25, 2011 Report Posted April 25, 2011 If the NDP ends up with the most number of seats would Harper and Ignatieff gang up on Layton or would Layton be able to secure the support of one of them? Gee I wonder what Harper says about a coalition of losers now lol if they did, the Tories would be destroyed in the next election. Quote
punked Posted April 25, 2011 Author Report Posted April 25, 2011 If the NDP ends up with the most number of seats would Harper and Ignatieff gang up on Layton or would Layton be able to secure the support of one of them? Gee I wonder what Harper says about a coalition of losers now I honestly have no clue what would happen. It would be some good drama. Quote
jbg Posted April 25, 2011 Report Posted April 25, 2011 Yeah, it's how Washington was elected. But why was it abandoned? Were there structural problems with it or was it simply that parties formed and became powerful? (My understanding was that the latter was the case.)As you picked up, it was the rise of rivals. The temporary animosity between Adams and Jefferson (they started and ended their careers as close friends and collaborators) played a role, as did divisions on whether to lean towards France or towards Britain, and whether the Federal government should expand.As we saw, though, the "anti-expansion" Democratic-Republican Party presided over a huge expansion of both the size of the country (the Louisiana Purchase) ant the scope of government. So much for dreams of town meeting government. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
nittanylionstorm07 Posted April 25, 2011 Report Posted April 25, 2011 I honestly have no clue what would happen. It would be some good drama. Layton would probably convince the GG to call another election since Harper promised not to form a coalition (paraphrasing). Then Layton would win a majority government. Quote
Smallc Posted April 25, 2011 Report Posted April 25, 2011 Layton would probably convince the GG to call another election since Harper promised not to form a coalition (paraphrasing). Then Layton would win a majority government. Okay, lets not get ahead of ourselves. Quote
punked Posted April 25, 2011 Author Report Posted April 25, 2011 Layton would probably convince the GG to call another election since Harper promised not to form a coalition (paraphrasing). Then Layton would win a majority government. Nope the GG wouldn't do it. Not after we just had an election. Quote
nittanylionstorm07 Posted April 25, 2011 Report Posted April 25, 2011 Okay, lets not get ahead of ourselves. Oh please. If Harper did that, he will lose the confidence of the Canadian people entirely. Quote
Smallc Posted April 25, 2011 Report Posted April 25, 2011 Oh please. If Harper did that, he will lose the confidence of the Canadian people entirely. He would, but A ) it won't happen, and B ) there wouldn't be an election that soon if a new government that would gain the confidence of the House could be formed. Quote
punked Posted April 25, 2011 Author Report Posted April 25, 2011 He would, but A ) it won't happen, and B ) there wouldn't be an election that soon if a new government that would gain the confidence of the House could be formed. Small C is right the GG would have to go to the Liberals and ask them which party they choose. They would have to figure out who they back and that would be that. Quote
Harry Posted April 25, 2011 Report Posted April 25, 2011 (edited) He would, but A ) it won't happen, and B ) there wouldn't be an election that soon if a new government that would gain the confidence of the House could be formed. Imagine this: Jack gets the most number of seats, cut a deal with the Libs, coalition or no coalition, who cares, possibly give the Libs a few measely cabinet positions to placate them, and cuts the Conservatives right out. Or gets a better deal with Harper, and cuts the Liberals right out. It's hard to know which would be better for Canadians. Or if the surge continues could the NDP even win a majority government? Edited April 25, 2011 by Harry Quote
Smallc Posted April 25, 2011 Report Posted April 25, 2011 It's hard to know which would be better for Canadians. If the NDP forms government after this election, I'll eat my hat. Quote
punked Posted April 25, 2011 Author Report Posted April 25, 2011 If the NDP forms government after this election, I'll eat my hat. But your gonna vote for them right? They could use your vote in Manitoba. Quote
Smallc Posted April 25, 2011 Report Posted April 25, 2011 But your gonna vote for them right? They could use your vote in Manitoba. I already did, but they won't win my riding. Quote
Evening Star Posted April 25, 2011 Report Posted April 25, 2011 The EKOS numbers are heart-stopping but... EKOS has consistently shown the Liberals and NDP higher and the CPC lower than every other pollster, right? We have Nanos suggesting a CPC majority and EKOS numbers that make an NDP government (despite a CPC plurality) plausible. Quote
Smallc Posted April 25, 2011 Report Posted April 25, 2011 (edited) The EKOS numbers are heart-stopping but... EKOS has consistently shown the Liberals and NDP higher and the CPC lower than every other pollster, right? We have Nanos suggesting a CPC majority and EKOS numbers that make an NDP government (despite a CPC plurality) plausible. One thing is constant though....the NDP is on a roll, whether we're talking about Environics, EKOS, or Nanos. Edited April 25, 2011 by Smallc Quote
Evening Star Posted April 25, 2011 Report Posted April 25, 2011 One thing is constant though....the NDP is on a roll, whether we're talking about Environics, EKOS, or NANOS. Yeah, I'm hoping we can get over 55% in Windsor West this time. Quote
punked Posted April 25, 2011 Author Report Posted April 25, 2011 I already did, but they won't win my riding. You are the best. Quote
Harry Posted April 25, 2011 Report Posted April 25, 2011 Yeah, I'm hoping we can get over 55% in Windsor West this time. Major Layton Town Hall Meeting planned for Ontario, Toronto actually, tomorrow at 3 PM Vancouver time Quote
blueblood Posted April 25, 2011 Report Posted April 25, 2011 But your gonna vote for them right? They could use your vote in Manitoba. I sort of cancelled his vote haha. In our riding the cpc gets alberta like win margins. Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
Smallc Posted April 25, 2011 Report Posted April 25, 2011 I sort of cancelled his vote haha. In our riding the cpc gets alberta like win margins. Yeah...although it would probably go NDP before the ridings to the south. Quote
Harry Posted April 25, 2011 Report Posted April 25, 2011 These latest polls sure look like the NDP will be picking up more seats in Alberta now. Quote
blueblood Posted April 25, 2011 Report Posted April 25, 2011 One thing is constant though....the NDP is on a roll, whether we're talking about Environics, EKOS, or Nanos. The polls only show trends. Libs tanking, cpc flat, bloc tanking, and ndp rising. There is a 9 point spread in between the pollsters for the tories in the same time period. You don't know where the parties are, only where they are going. Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
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