M.Dancer Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 It's a utilitarian phrase occasionally useful in statistical studies, government programs, and discussions like this one. So is non white....but that offends the squeamish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Given your party's repeatedly stated disdain for anything and everything said or done by the UN should you really be citing them to justify your repeated complaints about the phrase? His party? He had a party and I wasn't invited? BC, you are off my St Valentine;s list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeyhands Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 BC, you are off my St Valentine;s list Pretty sure BC doesn't support gay anything either Morris... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Pretty sure BC doesn't support gay anything either Morris... Not sure what to make of that comment. In my opinion BC is not only the most consistent poster here, he is also the most egalitarian. And what does StV cards have to do with support, or non support of things gay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeyhands Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Not sure what to make of that comment. In my opinion BC is not only the most consistent poster here, he is also the most egalitarian. And what does StV cards have to do with support, or non support of things gay? It was what some people would term as a joke... I guess you just didn't see any humour in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 It was what some people would term as a joke... I guess you just didn't see any humour in it. oh..! Hold on.... :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeyhands Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 oh..! Hold on.... :lol: Better... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Visionseeker Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 As far as I am concerned the only white pride I have has a very high thread count and matching pillow cases. Man did I laugh at this! Thanks Morris, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmy Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Ahh you westerners and your RCMP. OPP actually.... Silly me. Maybe we should get the OPP here in BC. They probably kick less people in the face than the RCMP. Anyhow, the party is billed as a 3 day festival and open to friends of the league. I believe that constitutes more than a private party (havent looked) thus the OPP knowing about it. It could be fopr a variety or reasons though....LCBO Permit, Insurance,local by laws on property use and population, sanitary reasons..... Yeah, I'm sure that's exactly what the county reeve and the cops are referring to. Liability insurance and liquor licenses. -k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Silly me. Maybe we should get the OPP here in BC. They probably kick less people in the face than the RCMP. Yeah, I'm sure that's exactly what the county reeve and the cops are referring to. Liability insurance and liquor licenses. -k Well...They'll definately need a fire permit... How else can you burn a cross legally??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmy Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Well...They'll definately need a fire permit... How else can you burn a cross legally??? I came across this issue last year when I was burning effigies in the yard. The trick is, you just use small effigies. -k {or, burn full-sized effigies of very small people.} Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 I came across this issue last year when I was burning effigies in the yard. The trick is, you just use small effigies. -k {or, burn full-sized effigies of very small people.} Yes.. It's called the "VooDoo Doll Effigy Incineration Theory"... Burning effigies in the yard...Hmmm???? Talkin' to Markuze again??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmy Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Yes.. It's called the "VooDoo Doll Effigy Incineration Theory"... Burning effigies in the yard...Hmmm???? Talkin' to Markuze again??? Not since I burned his very very small effigy. -k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Not since I burned his very very small effigy. -k What prompted the incineration?? Did he turn down your marriage proposal??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmy Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 (edited) What prompted the incineration?? I had to. "N" predicted it. So, srsly: when people get upset about "burning crosses (in Prince George, as we speak!)" is it the fire hazard that has them upset? -k Edited March 24, 2011 by kimmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 I had to. "N" predicted it. So, srsly: when people get upset about "burning crosses (in Prince George, as we speak!)" is it the fire hazard that has them upset? -k Who's "N"? Check this out... http://crispian-jago.blogspot.com/2010/12/trolling-for-dummies-by-dennis-markuze.html Are you having Klan issues in Prince George?? As far as why people get upset about it,I 'd suggest that it's about the symbology.As to where it comes from,I honestly don't get it..I've heared that it's a Masonic thing.... This is one of the very few times we really need Lictor to show up and educate us on kooky behaviour... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmy Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Who's "N"? Nostradamus, silly. Are you having Klan issues in Prince George?? Reference to a famous Hedy Fry outburst. As far as why people get upset about it,I 'd suggest that it's about the symbology.As to where it comes from,I honestly don't get it..I've heared that it's a Masonic thing.... People don't get upset about burning crosses because they think there's a fire hazard. Likewise, I think it unlikely that the cops and the reeve are concerned about this because they're worried about the insurance or liquor licenses. -k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 (edited) Nostradamus, silly. Reference to a famous Hedy Fry outburst. People don't get upset about burning crosses because they think there's a fire hazard. Likewise, I think it unlikely that the cops and the reeve are concerned about this because they're worried about the insurance or liquor licenses. -k Oh yes..Good 'ol Nossie... It's almost 2 AM...I'm a little slow on the uptake... I forgot about Fry and those over the top Klan references...Sort of a quasi Goodwins Law thing using the Klan instead of NAZI's... I know that people are'nt going to get upset at a cross burning ceremony because the burners might not have a permit,but that permit is a reason (see pretext) to supervise the gathering from a discret distance...Plus they'll get to see all sorts of Stormfront members in public and see lots of Fascist salutes and SS regalia... Perhaps a Lictor sighting!!! Edited March 24, 2011 by Jack Weber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmy Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 (see pretext) Bingo -k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shwa Posted March 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 ...Plus they'll get to see all sorts of Stormfront members in public and see lots of Fascist salutes and SS regalia... And take pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Bill Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 White pride? The idea seems rather silly. I'm supposed to be proud simply for having been born white? That's about as good a reason as having been born with 2 arms! I had no control over my birth race. How can I take pride in something that has nothing to do with my personal efforts or accomplishments? No, the idea is simply a reaction to the socially divisive idea of Black Pride or Green Pride. There's a good argument involving being a victim, entitlements and official multicultural government money that says it's all just using racist excuses to grab money and opportunities from what's perceived in some circles as an unfairly advantaged group. Don't ask me to be proud of being white but I AM proud of my British/European heritage and culture! It wasn't Tibetan prayer wheels that put a man on the moon or dreamcatchers that led to penicillin. Not that there's no value in those other cultural achievements but I put my primary value on those inventions that keep us warm and well fed while enjoying a long healthy life in a society that has a low infant mortality rate. I was awed and delighted watching both my daughters being born. I would not have cared for the experience if there was only medieval technology available in the birthing room. To me, ANY pride taken for something you had no control over is simply undeserved! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 No, the idea is simply a reaction to the socially divisive idea of Black Pride or Green Pride. There's a good argument involving being a victim, entitlements and official multicultural government money that says it's all just using racist excuses to grab money and opportunities from what's perceived in some circles as an unfairly advantaged group. Not too many people are born Green. As for Black pride, it was a natural and admirable reaction to Black Shame, which had been the attitude towards minorities up until around the Civil Rights Act. The opposite of Shame is Pride, after all. As a device for lifting people out of a depressed state, it was a good idea. But in the end, you're right, we shouldn't exactly be prideful of things we're born with (including intelligence or athletic ability by the way) but we should be thankful, and comfortable with it IMO. Don't ask me to be proud of being white but I AM proud of my British/European heritage and culture! It wasn't Tibetan prayer wheels that put a man on the moon or dreamcatchers that led to penicillin. ... To me, ANY pride taken for something you had no control over is simply undeserved! But... aren't you proud over your heritage as you said above ? Did you control that ? I suppose I can control my heritage by merely selecting whatever ancestor I would like to celebrate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Not too many people are born Green. As for Black pride, it was a natural and admirable reaction to Black Shame, which had been the attitude towards minorities up until around the Civil Rights Act. The opposite of Shame is Pride, after all. As a device for lifting people out of a depressed state, it was a good idea.... Was there a Civil Rights Act in Canada? I'm not sure what you mean by "Black Shame" being directed towards "minorities", if only because all minorities are/were not "Black". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Was there a Civil Rights Act in Canada? I'm not sure what you mean by "Black Shame" being directed towards "minorities", if only because all minorities are/were not "Black". Maybe fostered was a better word and maybe Blacks was a better word... not using my best English today. The Civil Rights Act originated in the same country where Black Pride as a movement did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Maybe fostered was a better word and maybe Blacks was a better word... not using my best English today. The Civil Rights Act originated in the same country where Black Pride as a movement did. OK...then you are invoking and projecting the American experience for Canada. I'm not sure if it applies across the board. So called "Black Pride" pre-dates the Civil Rights Movement by many decades, going back at least to the days of Jack Johnson defeating Canadian heavyweight champion Tommy Burns. This caused "White Shame" to such a degree that the lasting term "Great White Hope" came into popular usage thereafter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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