maplesyrup Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 Ipsos-Reid poll results released June 22, 2004: Party/Jun19/Jun 22/Change Libs: 29%, 34%, up 5% Cons: 32%, 28% down 4% That's a shift of 9% in the Liberals favour, within 3 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 If this is real ( a big IF ) then what caused it ? We need more information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Blair Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 If it's accurate I'd say it was caused by a combination of Ralph Klein and the assertion that Paul Martin supports child porn. Harper and his neo-conservatives have been showing themselves to be scary people that the Liberals have been trying to paint them as. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 I guess that's as good as guess as any, Reverend. If your point about Klein is true, it would mark the 2nd straight election he has helped scuttle for the conservatives. ( Before the last election, Klein walked out on stage at the convention and supported Stock Day. ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caesar Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 Great news. Harper and his big mouth has shown its true colours. I would imagine the ridiculous charges he made that the Liberals and NDP supported child porn were a big factor. Ralph probably gave it the extra little push. It is good that Canadians are being shown his real colours. We have too many people who do not know the issues and just are happy to vote out a party that was in power for their performance mistakes. That is only adviseable if you can be confident the the other candidates offer something positive. I am not happy with Martin or the Liberals but Harper and crew scare me and what they would do to Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bionic Antboy Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 We all knew that as soon as that report hit the news, Harper's polling numbers would drop. The Liberals may have engaged in some mudslinging, but coming out with a release that said... "Does Paul Martin Support Child Pornography?" was THE most boneheaded move by any party this whole election, bar none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maplesyrup Posted June 22, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 I may be wrong but I think this is a rogue poll. Check the gender stats. I think the actual numbers are about: Cons: 40% Libs: 30% New Dem: 23% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bionic Antboy Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 It's gonna be a horse race for sure.... with the tight race, every day is going to matter. June 21: CPAC-SES Tracking: Liberals 33% (ahead by 0.2%), Conservatives 33%, NDP 18%, BQ 12%, Green 5%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falling leaf Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 caesar Great news. Harper and his big mouth has shown its true colours. I would imagine the ridiculous charges he made that the Liberals and NDP supported child porn were a big factor. Ralph probably gave it the extra little push. Children should protected in this country ! Child porn should not be allowed. All poltitcal parties should agree on that issue. There is a diffrence between child porn and an art form we as adults should know that. Reverend Blair If it's accurate I'd say it was caused by a combination of Ralph Klein and the assertion that Paul Martin supports child porn. Harper and his neo-conservatives have been showing themselves to be scary people that the Liberals have been trying to paint them as. This statement is in very bad taste. Children should be used by no one . Not politians , and not sex offenders. :angry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 This statement is in very bad taste. Children should be used by no one . Not politians Have you noticed how PM PM is always kissing babies, holding kids, going to day care centres? How about Harper and his kids? For non-political types, they like pictures with kids. Remember the famous photo of JFK with his daughter under his desk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldie Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 This poll was taken during the same period that the SES shows a dip in support for the Conservatives. The trend has reversed as per SES and does not indicate anything substantial. Even at 28% the Conservatives get more seats. There is still much room to grow, seat wise. Did anyone see the seat projections on global yesterday. August1991 is correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 In this morning's NP, based on Barry Kay, it was Tories 125-126 to Libs 95-96 (if memory serves). CanWest Seat projection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bionic Antboy Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 In this morning's NP, based on Barry Kay, it was Tories 125-126 to Libs 95-96 (if memory serves).CanWest Seat projection Ipsos has it at Conservatives 110-114 Seats Liberals 107-111 NDP 19-23 Bloc Quebecois 64-68 If Vote Held Tomorrow http://www.ipsos-na.com/news/pressrelease.cfm?id=2286 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udawg Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 I suspect that the polls may swing back in the Conservative's favour before this campaign is over. The people who are switching sides are the ones who want a minority government. What's happening is that they're supporting the underdog. One party seems too far ahead, they say they're voting for the other one. Then when the support noticably swings, they change their mind. Early on, it was looking like a Liberal government. When the numbers got too high for them, many people switched to the Conservatives to balance it. Then the Conservatives surged ahead, and the polls swung the other way in an attempt to balance it again. I predict that the Conservatives will form a majority government, because the momentum should swing back in their favour just in time for the actual election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seton Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 I think people have been expressing their anger at the current government, but when it comes down to it, they will not be able to bring themselves to vote for the Conservatives. I think that is starting to be reflected now, as people finalize their decisions. The fact that Stephen Harper has not been forthcoming with his true agenda for Canada is starting to sink in. People are nervous and are starting to envision what kind of a country we would live in under Harper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moon Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 I think people have been expressing their anger at the current government, but when it comes down to it, they will not be able to bring themselves to vote for the Conservatives. I think that is starting to be reflected now, as people finalize their decisions. The fact that Stephen Harper has not been forthcoming with his true agenda for Canada is starting to sink in. People are nervous and are starting to envision what kind of a country we would live in under Harper. I'll tell you what kind of country we would live in under Harper....a great one. The kind of country you want to live in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maplesyrup Posted June 22, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 I think people have been expressing their anger at the current government, but when it comes down to it, they will not be able to bring themselves to vote for the Conservatives. I think that is starting to be reflected now, as people finalize their decisions. The fact that Stephen Harper has not been forthcoming with his true agenda for Canada is starting to sink in. People are nervous and are starting to envision what kind of a country we would live in under Harper. I'll tell you what kind of country we would live in under Harper....a great one. The kind of country you want to live in. moon.......please speak for yourself, eh?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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