Kliege Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 This is excellent. Trying to harass your opponent on his own turf is a loser's strategy. The last time I saw something like this was when Tony Clement tried to crash one of Harper's events somewhere. They are getting desperate..really desperate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maplesyrup Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 There is something about dying with dignity, isn't there? Quote An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't. Anatole France Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takeanumber Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 I think the ministers are just showing up for a free meal. I hear the Mozza Balls at the Harper events are just fantastic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Truly embarrassing that McCallum got drawn into this. The guy was a Royal Bank VP and could have been Governor of the Bank of Canada. And then Martin defends the whole thing. Bizarre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kliege Posted June 2, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 They are getting desperate..really desperate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idealisttotheend Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Who is planning Liberal campaign strategy these days and what grade are they in?!? This is humilating to the Liberals. Quote All too often the prize goes, not to who best plays the game, but to those who make the rules.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slavik44 Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Who is planning Liberal campaign strategy these days and what grade are they in?!? This is humilating to the Liberals. I am thinking it is that TSN monkey, mind you he always did okay on hockey pics. Quote The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. - Ayn Rand --------- http://www.politicalcompass.org/ Economic Left/Right: 4.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.54 Last taken: May 23, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willy Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 It took months, but we finally have consensus. Not one person on this forum has stated that it was a good idea to send out Liberal ministers with protestors into Harper rallies. I too was embarrassed for them. This was not thought through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slavik44 Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 It took months, but we finally have consensus. Not one person on this forum has stated that it was a good idea to send out Liberal ministers with protestors into Harper rallies.I too was embarrassed for them. This was not thought through. well it is a bad idea, we have martin telling us harper will run this country like an american, but we have Martin running his campaign like, what many canadians would consider, an american. He says they may keep doing it, but within 1 week they will find out that it is not working, in all honesty that kind of behavoir will not convince canadians to vote for paul martin. It will convince Canadians to vote for Harper, layton and duceppe. Plus with about 12% of voters undecided, and a good number of voters willing to switch their vote..martin's liberals are very likely to hit that 29% bottom....let them keep doing it. Quote The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. - Ayn Rand --------- http://www.politicalcompass.org/ Economic Left/Right: 4.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.54 Last taken: May 23, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 He says they may keep doing it, but within 1 week they will find out that it is not working, They should concentrate on the "fear factor"... promote Martin as a man who will promote economic stability, etc. At this point, they should be trying to stabilize - give up trying to win big and do whatever it takes to get the minority. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maplesyrup Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Quote of the day from the federal election campaign Wednesday. "I apologize for there being that small protest outside, but I have to tell you I have no control over where the Liberal party holds its cabinet meetings." - Conservative Leader Stephen Harper to the Toronto Board of Trade. Quote An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't. Anatole France Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kliege Posted June 3, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Actually I would love to see more of it for some more laughs. Imagine Annie, Ralph and Geg Alock doing this stuff. It would just prove that they are in meltdown and it would be a good laugh each time it happened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kliege Posted June 3, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Clearly the wheels are falling off the Liberal campaign. Yesterday, Paul Martin sent out ministerial stalkers Judy Sgro and John McCallum to heckle Stephen Harper at campaign stops. And we thought Team Martin could not go any lower than this silly and demeaning display. How wrong we were. Today, the Liberals sent out a rent-a-mob to scream and yell outside our Toronto Board of Trade campaign stop. (We half expected Paul Martin to show up with a cream pie, but alas, no... .) In any event, Stephen Harper apologised to the crowd for the disturbance, and said "I don't have any control over where the Liberal Cabinet holds their meetings." What additional silly tricks do they have in mind? Soaping windows? Ringing the doorbell and running away? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 "I apologize for there being that small protest outside, but I have to tell you I have no control over where the Liberal party holds its cabinet meetings." - Conservative Leader Stephen Harper to the Toronto Board of Trade. Harper's got good writers. Almost Jay Leno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldie Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 It is not his writers it is HIM, give the guy his credit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slavik44 Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 "I apologize for there being that small protest outside, but I have to tell you I have no control over where the Liberal party holds its cabinet meetings." - Conservative Leader Stephen Harper to the Toronto Board of Trade. Harper's got good writers. Almost Jay Leno. are you sure about that, i mean its not like his writers knew they would be there. Quote The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. - Ayn Rand --------- http://www.politicalcompass.org/ Economic Left/Right: 4.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.54 Last taken: May 23, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 I have no idea. But a good writer would have prepared it in advance for use at the next scrum. I have only met Harper once. Six months ago, he was only a name to me. One reason I am on this forum is because I was curious about him and wanted a way to get back into this There are several things that impress me about Harper. First, he's shrewd. Second, he lines up his ducks. Third, he gets people to agree. Fourth, he's reasonable - no hype. People forget that Ontario had a Tory government for 40 some odd years. Frost, Davis, Robarts... I think this is Harper. He is good English-Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takeanumber Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 He's from the same economic school of thought that I'm from, so on the economic side of things, I agree with him most of the time. (Although, I'm realistic about the political realities that he's confronted with.) Socially though, he won't admit to the virtues of social mobility, and he seems content to get government out of the lives of some people, but wants government in the face of people whom are not his traditional allies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Yesterday, Paul Martin sent out ministerial stalkers Judy Sgro and John McCallum to heckle Stephen Harper at campaign stops. No, according to Martin that was their own idea. It was pure coincidence they both did it on the same day. They were just frustrated. Oh wait, his own people admit they had arranged it. So does that mean Paul Martin lied when he said it was a coincidence and not something the party arranged? Martin seems to be from the Chretien school of lies. He can tell them very well, but he doesn't seem to have grasped the need not to tell them when the truth can be so easily verified. Idiot Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takeanumber Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 Yeh, Martin majored in Fibbing. I understand he got an A in bullsh1t and an A- in the course on looking sincere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kliege Posted June 4, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 Now the Liberals have gone so far to put gay marriage hecklers at CPC events . They are getting desperate..very desperate. I can't wait till the Debates. Canada deserves better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idealisttotheend Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 Martin is paying dearly for getting rid of the enitre old guard of his own party. If he expects to win with such amateur advisors he is arrogant. Perhaps the fact that the leadership contest wasn't much of a contest hurt him to since the advisors he does have never got any experience in 'campaigns.' But lieing on such obvious things isn't helping either. I mean would any reasonable voter believe that two cabinet ministers crashed Harper rallies on their own violation on the same day! At least the Cons are looking like pros (there found something nice to say ) Quote All too often the prize goes, not to who best plays the game, but to those who make the rules.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 In a CPAC interview on Wednesday night with Ken Rockburn, national campaign co-chairman David Herle admitted, after much questioning, that the two ministers were told to disrupt the Harper events. ''We did ask them in those particular circumstances, yes, and Mr. Martin was unaware, . . . we asked those people in those circumstances to go and to confront Mr. Harper.'' G&M on Herle Herle is the type of guy that should be kept as far from a mike as possible during a campaign. What's the old line? Never buy shares in a company if the CEO is more well known than the company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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