Can't compete with immigrants.

[mikedavid00]

I still cannot find work.

I will say that I simply cannot compete with immigrants. I've lost countless jobs to them and the market place is *FLOODED* with them. My resume gets burried in hundreds.

There is only so many jobs to go around - the don't come out of thin air. If we are seing a decline in jobs, why are we letting so many people in to Canada?

(I know the real answer to this as I've researched this enough I can write a book, but I occasionally like to come on to get a laugh out of the sheep that are going to regurgitate the standard phrases the media and politicians want them to say.. oh yeah guys.. don't forget about the "Dr's diving taxi's".. the media made shure you learned that one real well).

[Bonam]

While it might be prudent to reduce the immigration rate, blaming your failure to get a job on immigrants is foolish. Sharpen up your skills, improve your interview technique. That'll help you get a job a lot sooner than a campaign to kick out immigrants will.

You may want to ask yourself why you feel you "cannot compete with immigrants".

[kimmy]

I recall the last time MikeDavid discussed this issue (or perhaps it was the time before, or the time before... MikeDavid has discussed this many times here...) he indicated that he expects a high-salaried position and is unwilling to take an entry level job... likely unrealistic expectations for someone who seems to have very little experience and-- based on his postings here at least-- less than stellar literacy and dubious cognitive skills.

-k

[wyly]

without immigration our economy will come to a standstill...the weakness of our free market economy requires perpetual growth, what no government will address is that unlimited growth cannot be sustained, it's impossible all resources are finite...

[Bonam]

without immigration our economy will come to a standstill...the weakness of our free market economy requires perpetual growth,

This is false. Our economy does require perpetual growth, but it does not require growth in population, only in economic output. Increased economic output can be achieved by growth in productivity rather than population, specifically through the rapid adoption of new technologies as they become available. This is the path being taken by countries such as Japan, rather than immigration, and is certainly an alternative worth considering.

what no government will address is that unlimited growth cannot be sustained, it's impossible all resources are finite...

Technically, yes, they are finite. In practice, the resources available to us throughout the solar system may as well be infinite given how much room we have to expand. The only fundamental resource is energy, everything else can, in principle, be created using it. We use less than one trillionth of the energy available from our Sun. We have room for centuries of exponential growth, and that's just this one solar system.

Edited March 9, 2010 by Bonam

[Smallc]

This is false. Our economy does require perpetual growth, but it does not require growth in population, only in economic output. Increased economic output can be achieved by growth in productivity rather than population, specifically through the rapid adoption of new technologies as they become available.

Except that we're getting old and not having children.

[Bonam]

Except that we're getting old

speak for yourself.

and not having children.

Actually, over 300,000 per year in Canada.

Edited March 9, 2010 by Bonam

[wyly]

speak for yourself.

Actually, over 300,000 per year in Canada.

if it were not for immigration Canada would have a falling population...we are at less than ZPG, birth rate is not replacing those dying...

[wyly]

This is false. Our economy does require perpetual growth, but it does not require growth in population, only in economic output. Increased economic output can be achieved by growth in productivity rather than population, specifically through the rapid adoption of new technologies as they become available. This is the path being taken by countries such as Japan, rather than immigration, and is certainly an alternative worth considering.

not false, it is a problem that has not be addressed and it is a viewed as a serious problem in Japanour government has no long term plan to confront the inevitable, growth cannot continue without end...

Technically, yes, they are finite. In practice, the resources available to us throughout the solar system may as well be infinite given how much room we have to expand. The only fundamental resource is energy, everything else can, in principle, be created using it. We use less than one trillionth of the energy available from our Sun. We have room for centuries of exponential growth, and that's just this one solar system.

technically and practically...you're into science fiction now, we're never leaving this solar system...

[Bonam]

we're never leaving this solar system...

Suce a confident sounding statement, and yet so little knowledge behind it. And anyway, I spoke about resources in this solar system, where, as I said, we have room for centuries of growth.

[bush_cheney2004]

....technically and practically...you're into science fiction now, we're never leaving this solar system...

Not true...."we" are leaving the solar system at this time with Pioneer 10 & 11:

Pioneer 10, Earth’s first emissary into space, is carrying a gold plaque that describes what we look like, where we are and the date the mission began. Pioneer 10 will continue to coast silently as a ghost ship through deep space into interstellar space, heading generally for the red star Aldebaran, which forms the eye of the constellation Taurus (The Bull). Aldebaran is about 68 light years away. It will take Pioneer 10 more than 2 million years to reach it. Its sister ship, Pioneer 11, ended its mission Sept. 30, 1995, when the last transmission from the spacecraft was received.

[DogOnPorch]

Except that we're getting old and not having children.

Birth control and women's rights are the major factors in Western cultures' various low birth-rates. Other cultures should be doing likewise...but alas.

we're never leaving this solar system

Oi...

[bjre]

I still cannot find work.

I will say that I simply cannot compete with immigrants. I've lost countless jobs to them and the market place is *FLOODED* with them. My resume gets burried in hundreds.

There is only so many jobs to go around - the don't come out of thin air. If we are seing a decline in jobs, why are we letting so many people in to Canada?

(I know the real answer to this as I've researched this enough I can write a book, but I occasionally like to come on to get a laugh out of the sheep that are going to regurgitate the standard phrases the media and politicians want them to say.. oh yeah guys.. don't forget about the "Dr's diving taxi's".. the media made shure you learned that one real well).

Immigrants feels so hard to find a professional job in Canada. Some of them are really good when they find jobs when they have disadvantage in language and many others.

On the other hand, the education system in Canada is really a bad one that don't encourage kids to learn hard so that you can see most students who are in top academic achievement are most likely from China, India, Russia or some others.

Organizations in Canada such as CAS tell kids he need not to learn hard, he still can find a ten thousand dollar job in TTC or others. When in real life, they send 1/3 of kids in their care to end up in correction system that is more than those in their care who finish high school.

In the mean time, RRSP will face bankrupt if no more people from abroad contribute it.

They need money, they don't let people work, they prefer provide EI rather than give more freedom to people to create their own business and lower the minimum legal salary to allow more employers be able to hire people, and to make work in Canada lower in cost so that it can compete in International market. They make too many jobs need license (instead of based on ability) so that too many possibilities and innovations be made impossible.

This is the sadness made by those who control the country, it is the failure in management and education.

Edited March 9, 2010 by bjre

[Guest TrueMetis]

On the other hand, the education system in Canada is really a bad one that don't encourage kids to learn hard so that you can see most students who are in top academic achievement are most likely from China, India, Russia or some others.

Canada has an literacy rate of 99% China is at 90.9%% India 61% and Russia 99.4%.

How Exactly is the Canadian education system bad? I'm not going to respond to the rest of your nonsense but don't bad mouth the Canadian education system, especially when your grammar sucks as bad as yours does.

[bjre]

Canada has an literacy rate of 99% China is at 90.9%% India 61% and Russia 99.4%.

How Exactly is the Canadian education system bad? I'm not going to respond to the rest of your nonsense but don't bad mouth the Canadian education system, especially when your grammar sucks as bad as yours does.

But your good language skill can not produce more patent for you.

BTW, I can use this "suck" grammar to exchange ideas here. You can not do so with Chinese language.

Edited March 9, 2010 by bjre

[Shwa]

I still cannot find work.

I will say that I simply cannot compete with immigrants. I've lost countless jobs to them and the market place is *FLOODED* with them. My resume gets burried in hundreds.

There is only so many jobs to go around - the don't come out of thin air. If we are seing a decline in jobs, why are we letting so many people in to Canada?

(I know the real answer to this as I've researched this enough I can write a book, but I occasionally like to come on to get a laugh out of the sheep that are going to regurgitate the standard phrases the media and politicians want them to say.. oh yeah guys.. don't forget about the "Dr's diving taxi's".. the media made shure you learned that one real well).

Have you tried the reachback programs through Employment Ontario to try and get onto the Second Career program? Generally when I hear someone say they cannot get a job in their chosen area of interest that means that particular sector is flooded and there is no urgent requirements. Second Career will aid in changing career paths.

[Smallc]

speak for yourself.

I'm 21, I was speaking in general terms.

[Argus]

Except that we're getting old and not having children.

Yes, people do get old. Immigrants get old. In fact, according to stats canada, the average age of immigrants is not really much lower than the average age of Canadian born.

The answer to a low birth rate is to address the economic and social factors causing it, not steal people from other countries

[Smallc]

Well generally poorer people have more kids....maybe if we make everyone poor.

[Argus]

Well generally poorer people have more kids....maybe if we make everyone poor.

Well, that does seem to be Liberal Party policy.

[Shakeyhands]

Have you tried the reachback programs through Employment Ontario to try and get onto the Second Career program? Generally when I hear someone say they cannot get a job in their chosen area of interest that means that particular sector is flooded and there is no urgent requirements. Second Career will aid in changing career paths.

The criteria/rules for those programs have been changed. Demand was so high they ran through 75% of the 400M (iirc*) allocated in the first two years. It's almost impossible to qualify if you aren't from one of the "affected" industries - auto parts manufacturing, logging, fisheries etc...

* numbers are to the best of my foggy 40 yr old memory

[groupeii]

I still cannot find work.

I will say that I simply cannot compete with immigrants. I've lost countless jobs to them and the market place is *FLOODED* with them. My resume gets burried in hundreds.

There is only so many jobs to go around - the don't come out of thin air. If we are seing a decline in jobs, why are we letting so many people in to Canada?

(I know the real answer to this as I've researched this enough I can write a book, but I occasionally like to come on to get a laugh out of the sheep that are going to regurgitate the standard phrases the media and politicians want them to say.. oh yeah guys.. don't forget about the "Dr's diving taxi's".. the media made shure you learned that one real well).

Mike perhaps us two can start an organization called Canadian Association for the Employment of Canadians.

[Smallc]

Well, that does seem to be Liberal Party policy.

Well then, you should vote Liberal. Not only do they encourage people to have more children, but they also bring in fewer immigrants that the Conservatives.

[nicky10013]

Here's an idea. How about create a streamlined system of accreditation according to Canadian standards? This way, doctors, engineers etc etc don't have to drive cabs when they come here. They can use their skills to create jobs. Sounds like a good idea to me.

[wyly]

Well generally poorer people have more kids....maybe if we make everyone poor.

having less kids is also key to becoming wealthy...better education = low birth rate = more wealth...

even the birth rate for immigrants from countries with high birth drops when they move to countries with low birth rates...