Army Guy Posted November 20, 2009 Report Posted November 20, 2009 These cuts are now taking effect on Military budgets, as DND is trying to get ahead of the curve. I just hope it's not the same as the liberals cut backs. My linkcommunities.canada.com Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
eyeball Posted November 20, 2009 Report Posted November 20, 2009 My linkcommunities.canada.com I've never seen this when I clicked on a link before. The specified request cannot be executed from current Application Pool In any case any cut to our military budget is a good cut to me these days. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
JaysFan Posted November 20, 2009 Report Posted November 20, 2009 I've never seen this when I clicked on a link before. In any case any cut to our military budget is a good cut to me these days. Times must be tough...All cuts to the military's already bloated budget would be at the top of my chopping block. Quote
Peter F Posted November 20, 2009 Report Posted November 20, 2009 Try this link: Canada.com Quote A bayonet is a tool with a worker at both ends
Moonbox Posted November 20, 2009 Report Posted November 20, 2009 Times must be tough... All cuts to the military's already bloated budget would be at the top of my chopping block. Bloated huh? Yep, that's a really sage and well-informed opinion.... Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
JaysFan Posted November 20, 2009 Report Posted November 20, 2009 Bloated huh? Yep, that's a really sage and well-informed opinion.... Forgive me if I don't kneel before the military's altar like a Conservative sheep.Start with this cut. Make them pay for their own personal moving instead of DND picking up the tab. Quote
Guest TrueMetis Posted November 20, 2009 Report Posted November 20, 2009 Forgive me if I don't kneel before the military's altar like a Conservative sheep. Start with this cut. Make them pay for their own personal moving instead of DND picking up the tab. It's not their personal moving it's required moving, the move as part of their job. Quote
JaysFan Posted November 20, 2009 Report Posted November 20, 2009 It's not their personal moving it's required moving, the move as part of their job. Fine, then let them pay for it out of their salaries like ordinary Canadians must when we need to move for work.As it is, DND pays for them to move from the time they enlist and includes the move after they get out too. Quote
Guest TrueMetis Posted November 20, 2009 Report Posted November 20, 2009 Fine, then let them pay for it out of their salaries like ordinary Canadians must when we need to move for work. When your company transfers you somewhere else they usually pay for moving expenses. As it is, DND pays for them to move from the time they enlist and includes the move after they get out too. So they pay to move you to the bases you will be working at and then pay for you to go home once your down. What exactly is wrong with that? I would call that taking care of your employees. Quote
JaysFan Posted November 20, 2009 Report Posted November 20, 2009 When your company transfers you somewhere else they usually pay for moving expenses. So they pay to move you to the bases you will be working at and then pay for you to go home once your down. What exactly is wrong with that? I would call that taking care of your employees. Waste of my tax dollars is what it is. Privately run companies that choose to pay for it do so out of their own pockets not at the expense of the taxpayer.Those who choose to enlist should be responsible for paying their own way there and not sucking off the public tit. Quote
M.Dancer Posted November 20, 2009 Report Posted November 20, 2009 Waste of my tax dollars is what it is. Privately run companies that choose to pay for it do so out of their own pockets not at the expense of the taxpayer. Those who choose to enlist should be responsible for paying their own way there and not sucking off the public tit. You win the stupid comment of the week award. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Guest TrueMetis Posted November 20, 2009 Report Posted November 20, 2009 (edited) Waste of my tax dollars is what it is. Privately run companies that choose to pay for it do so out of their own pockets not at the expense of the taxpayer. Those who choose to enlist should be responsible for paying their own way there and not sucking off the public tit. Figures you would switch arguments, first you say let them pay there own way like normal Canadians must, then when I point out that when moving for a company the company pays you switch to it's a waste of your tax dollars. Give me your paypal account and I'll refund your $20 as long as you give me my money back for the money I pay for your medical. Edited November 20, 2009 by TrueMetis Quote
JaysFan Posted November 20, 2009 Report Posted November 20, 2009 You win the stupid comment of the week award. As decided by who, you? :lol: Quote
JaysFan Posted November 20, 2009 Report Posted November 20, 2009 Figures you would switch arguments, first you say let them pay there own way like normal Canadians must, then when I point out that when moving for a company the company pays you switch to it's a waste of your tax dollars. Give me your paypal account and I'll refund your $20 as long as you give me my money back for the money I pay for your medical. What part of public vs privately run are you struggling with in this equation?I don't care if a privately run company chooses to pay for moving, that doesn't come out of my tax dollars. Quote
Alex Moore Posted November 20, 2009 Report Posted November 20, 2009 As decided by who, you? :lol: I seconded it. Honestly making issue out of personel expenses is just stupid because they are such a small part of DND budget axing them wouldnt have any effect. Whats going to get axed is equipment purchases for an army that is already stretched to its limit. Or something else to get axed that hippies wont enjoy: humitarian efforts in Afghanistan. Quote "I am a sick man, I am a spiteful man... My liver hurts" - Dostoevsky
JaysFan Posted November 20, 2009 Report Posted November 20, 2009 I seconded it. Honestly making issue out of personel expenses is just stupid because they are such a small part of DND budget axing them wouldnt have any effect. Whats going to get axed is equipment purchases for an army that is already stretched to its limit. Or something else to get axed that hippies wont enjoy: humitarian efforts in Afghanistan. Woe is me.. being ganged up on by the military worshiping sheeple..However will I sleep tonight... :lol: Quote
wulf42 Posted November 20, 2009 Report Posted November 20, 2009 I wonder what these cut backs will affect the Canadian Forces themselves or the civilian employees, the last thing they should be looking at is the Military...maybe we should look at our spending in aid to other Countries instead? Quote
Guest TrueMetis Posted November 20, 2009 Report Posted November 20, 2009 (edited) What part of public vs privately run are you struggling with in this equation? I don't care if a privately run company chooses to pay for moving, that doesn't come out of my tax dollars. No but that sort of thing would come out of the amount you're paying for the products of that company. Anyway the amount your paying for it in tax dollars is almost nothing that $20 I offered you would probably pay for it for life and then some. I seconded it. Honestly making issue out of personel expenses is just stupid because they are such a small part of DND budget axing them wouldnt have any effect. Whats going to get axed is equipment purchases for an army that is already stretched to its limit. Or something else to get axed that hippies wont enjoy: humitarian efforts in Afghanistan. I Third that. Edited November 20, 2009 by TrueMetis Quote
M.Dancer Posted November 20, 2009 Report Posted November 20, 2009 Woe is me.. being ganged up on by the military worshiping sheeple.. However will I sleep tonight... :lol: No brain, no strain Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
JaysFan Posted November 20, 2009 Report Posted November 20, 2009 (edited) No but that sort of thing would come out of the amount you're paying for the products of that company. Anyway the amount your paying for it in tax dollars is almost nothing that $20 I offered you would probably pay for it for life and then some. As a consumer I have the option not to purchase that company's service or product. Hence, it's of no cost to me.You're completely clueless as to how much money's wasted and the sheer number in military moves across this country aren't you. It's sickening. And a hell of a lot more than $20 out of the taxpayers pocket too. Edited November 20, 2009 by JaysFan Quote
justme Posted November 20, 2009 Report Posted November 20, 2009 Waste of my tax dollars is what it is. Privately run companies that choose to pay for it do so out of their own pockets not at the expense of the taxpayer. Those who choose to enlist should be responsible for paying their own way there and not sucking off the public tit. National Defence is actually a responsibility of the federal government unlike tons of other crap that you probably support. Moreover, the lower the budget, the more Canada has to lean on the US. You bitch about sucking off the public tit, which IS a stupid comment btw, but it's ok to get your neighbor to pick up your tab, and, of course, you're probably the type that likes to sit around bitching about that neighbor. Quote “The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities.” –Theodore Roosevelt “The symptoms of dying civilizations are well known. The death of faith; the degeneration of morals; contempt for the old values; collapse of the culture; paralysis of the will, but the two certain symptoms that a civilization has begun to die are a declining population and foreign invasions no longer resisted.” – Patrick J. Buchanan "Liberalism is the ideology of Western suicide. Its ideas pursued to their logical end will prove fatal to the West." -- James Burnham
Guest TrueMetis Posted November 20, 2009 Report Posted November 20, 2009 As a consumer I have the option not to purchase that company's service or product. Hence, it's of no cost to me. You're completely clueless as to how much money's wasted and the sheer number in military moves across this country aren't you. It's sickening. And a hell of a lot more than $20 out of the taxpayers pocket too. Then give me the number and I'll pay you back but once again you'd have to pay me back for the money I've spent on your medical. Quote
JaysFan Posted November 20, 2009 Report Posted November 20, 2009 (edited) National Defence is actually a responsibility of the federal government unlike tons of other crap that you probably support. Moreover, the lower the budget, the more Canada has to lean on the US. You bitch about sucking off the public tit, which IS a stupid comment btw, but it's ok to get your neighbor to pick up your tab, and, of course, you're probably the type that likes to sit around bitching about that neighbor. Until such time as there's conscription then those who choose to be employed by the military and paid by the taxpayer, they should be paying their own way and costs.If the neighbour's dumb enough... Wait, let's transfer all of the CBC's employees around the country each year and watch the Conservative's approve of those expenses as justifiable too.. Edited November 20, 2009 by JaysFan Quote
dlkenny Posted November 20, 2009 Report Posted November 20, 2009 I seconded it. Honestly making issue out of personel expenses is just stupid because they are such a small part of DND budget axing them wouldnt have any effect. Whats going to get axed is equipment purchases for an army that is already stretched to its limit. Or something else to get axed that hippies wont enjoy: humitarian efforts in Afghanistan. Agreed! By cutting budgets to our military you are further endangering the lives of our service people. The afghan mission aside, people have this notion that peacekeeping and guarding missions are not dangerous...even if we got our troops away from combat in Afghanistan they would still be sent to do peacekeeping, to guard our borders, and to help people deal with disasters. These jobs require the finest training and equipment to do the job safely and adequately and cutting the budget does nothing more than spit in the faces of the brave souls who enlist to protect this country. Call me what you will but the members of our armed forces are an extremely valuable resource, one that gets largely ignored until times of crisis. Next time your river floods your city or an earthquake knocks your house down, don't expect the army to come to your aid! Quote If you understand, no explanation necessary. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.
M.Dancer Posted November 20, 2009 Report Posted November 20, 2009 Until such time as there's conscription then those who choose to be employed by the military and paid by the taxpayer, they should be paying their own way and costs. If the neighbour's dumb enough... Wait, let's transfer all of the CBC's employees around the country each year and watch the Conservative's approve of those expenses as justifiable too.. Might come as a shock to you, the Federal Government to not go over CBC expenses line by line...anyway....You already won the award...no need to see if you can get another till next Friday. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
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