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Federal liberals responsible for shortage of flu vaccine

Calgary HeraldNovember 5, 2009Comments (12)

In politics, as in the courtroom, it is wise to never ask a question unless you know the answer. A seasoned politician like Dr. Carolyn Bennett, the Liberal health critic, should know this. Bennett, a medical doctor, was the minister of state for public health in the Paul Martin government and a person who should know the history of flu vaccination contracts in Canada.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/health/Federal+liberals+responsible+shortage+vaccine/2186672/story.html

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You do realize that contract was for seasonal flu vaccine.

A new contract was set up for the H1N1 vaccine.

So do i beleive you who is direct contradiction to the Calgary Herald and has provided no proof, or the Calgary Herald...I go with the Herald

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So do i beleive you who is direct contradiction to the Calgary Herald and has provided no proof, or the Calgary Herald...I go with the Herald

It is on the government's website:

The regular flu virus vaccine proceeded as usual.

The H1N1 had to go through additional negotiations that the regular flu vaccine didn't. While the contract was for one company, the negotiations for this part of the contract were new.

In accordance with the terms of the longstanding contract, the Government of Canada is in discussions with GSK about the development and production of the H1N1 vaccine. After the safety testing and preliminary development work is completed, the production process for the H1N1 vaccine will take about 12 weeks. In the meantime, GSK is working through potential production process issues by developing trial vaccines.

In other words, when Carolyn Bennett asked about the terms of this contract, it was a legitimate question in regards the development of this vaccine.

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It is on the government's website:

The regular flu virus vaccine proceeded as usual.

The H1N1 had to go through additional negotiations that the regular flu vaccine didn't. While the contract was for one company, the negotiations for this part of the contract were new.

In other words, when Carolyn Bennett asked about the terms of this contract, it was a legitimate question in regards the development of this vaccine.

it says nothing of the sort

http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/alert-alerte/h1n1/info_vaccine_vaccin-eng.php

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The contract was awarded to Shire BioChem, a company that gave $57,000 to the Liberal Party in 2001. The company has since been bought out by GSK, but the contract remained valid since it secured the Ste. Foy vaccine production facility.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20091104/vaccine_antigen_091104/20091104?hub=

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your quote has nothing to do with vaccine supply contract.

Afraid it does.

In any event, the Tories renegotiated the contract in 2007.

No "oops here. Indeed Dr. Carolyn Bennett does know better. She was asking about the contract re-negotiated by the Conservatives in 2007: The 2001 vaccine supply contract - signed by the Liberal government - ensured that there would be a domestic supply of vaccine in case of a pandemic. The contract was not exclusive and has been made public. The Canadian government was free to purchase from other suppliers. That was the point: capture a domestic supply, but give the government flexibility to act in a crisis. The Conservatives renegotiated the agreement in 2007, but details have not been released. The 2004 Liberal Pandemic Plan called for using multiple suppliers to ensure a reliable source. The Conservatives ignored this recommendation. Chief Public Health Officer Dr. David Butler-Jones confirmed Tuesday that the federal government could order more vaccine from other suppliers. The decision of the govt to instruct GSK to halt production on the adjuvanted vaccine in order to make some non-adjuvanted for pregnant women is what has caused the shortages this week
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Think I already said that H1N1 negotiations are separate.

You said that, but none of the cites you've provided support the claim. Indeed, they seem to indicate that the H1N1 vaccine was indeed part of GSK's exclusive 10-year contract.

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Tsk, tsk

The Liberals built up Canada’s domestic capacity to make it possible to produce pandemic influenza vaccine domestically. The 2001 pandemic vaccine contract with Shire Biologics required the company to be constantly ready to make and sell pandemic flu vaccine to Canada, while still allowing vaccines to be ordered from other manufacturers in case of a tight supply. The 2004 Canadian Pandemic Influenza Plan stated, “Multiple suppliers should be considered in the planning process.”

In 2007, Conservative Health Minister Tony Clement revised the pandemic vaccine contract with GlaxoSmithKline and could have insisted upon multiple suppliers. Chief Public Health Officer Dr. David Butler-Jones confirmed yesterday that the government can order more vaccine from other suppliers. It failed to do so.

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You said that, but none of the cites you've provided support the claim. Indeed, they seem to indicate that the H1N1 vaccine was indeed part of GSK's exclusive 10-year contract.

Which allows for multi company orders as Dr. Butler Jones said yesterday.

Tony Clement renegotiated this in 2007. Yeesh.

There was no reason for a single source this time except for the fact that the Tory government made it so.

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prove it.

The CP story shows the contract was not for 100% of the supply.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5gTezh8LC_Mbo1Apdfkf6ITZkJRVQ

The 10-year contract, worth then $323,522,500, was awarded to Shire BioChem, a British company that had a flu vaccine manufacturing plant outside Quebec City. The contract went with the plant when it was sold in 2004 to ID Biomedical and in 2005 to GlaxoSmithKline.

As part of the contract, Shire was guaranteed 75 per cent of Canada's seasonal flu vaccine purchase. The $323 million figure included the cost of the annual seasonal flu vaccine.

And this:

http://www.thebarrieexaminer.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2161517

With one parliamentarian already believed to be suffering from H1N1, opposition Liberals yesterday pointed to the February 2004 Canadian Pandemic Influenza Plan, which laid out a painstaking strategy in case an international health emergency closed borders and endangered vaccine supplies from abroad.

"Canada has invested in a domestic supplier to offset this possibility," the plan says, adding, "however, it will not be known whether this supplier will be able to produce enough vaccine for the entire target population in a timely manner. The possibility of multiple suppliers should be considered in the planning process."

And...

In 2007, Conservative Health Minister Tony Clement revised the pandemic vaccine contract with GlaxoSmithKline and could have insisted upon multiple suppliers. Chief Public Health Officer Dr. David Butler-Jones confirmed yesterday that the government can order more vaccine from other suppliers. It failed to do so.
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The CP story shows the contract was not for 100% of the supply.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5gTezh8LC_Mbo1Apdfkf6ITZkJRVQ

funny you left this bit out

The move angered vaccine giant Sanofi Pasteur, which used to share Canada's market 50-50 with Shire. But Sanofi does not have flu vaccine production capacity in Canada.

Under the contract, Shire was required to maintain a constant supply of enough eggs to make pandemic vaccine whenever the need arose. At the time manufacturers didn't need and didn't keep a year-round supply of eggs.

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funny you left this bit out

I didn't leave anything out since I was the one who posted the link.

The contract is not exclusive despite how much you argue it is. Or even after this, are you arguing the Liberals negotiated a single source contract that had no room for other suppliers?

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I didn't leave anything out since I was the one who posted the link.

The contract is not exclusive despite how much you argue it is. Or even after this, are you arguing the Liberals negotiated a single source contract that had no room for other suppliers?

the other 25% was sourced to a company that doesn't even have capacity in Canada, thank you liberal party.

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the other 25% was sourced to a company that doesn't even have capacity in Canada, thank you liberal party.

Thank you Tory party for being in power for 4 years and believing single source was the way to go on this when the contract specifically allowed for more suppliers.

So take that in your consideration when tossing out blame.

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