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There'd be no need for burkas if the the men who can't control themselves when confronted with a woman simply wore a blindfold.

These guys make men look like pathetic morons. I'm surprised Muslim women don't all just rise up one night and wake their men up with a knife to their balls and a warning to smarten up or else. It's probably what I'd feel like doing if I was a woman.

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Given that the burka did not appear until the 1970's, don't you think that it is a bit of a stretch to put it on the same level as your other examples of religious devotion?

Actually, the Burqa predates Islamism and has its roots in pre-Islamic Arabic culture.

A Short History of the Burqa

This type of dress has its origins with desert times long before Islam arrived. It had two functions. Firstly as a sand mask in windy conditions. This would be worn by men and women and is still common today. For women only the masking of the face and body was used when one group was being raided by another. These raids often involved the taking of women of child bearing age. With all women hidden behind a veil, and the home team fighting back, the chances of being taken were substantially reduced as the women of child bearing age could not be quickly distinguished from the very young and the old.

Many Muslims believe that the Islamic holy book, the Qur'an, and the collected traditions of the life of Muhammed, or hadith, require both men and women to dress and behave modestly in public. However, this requirement, called hijab, has been interpreted in many different ways by Islamic scholars (ulema) and Muslim communities (see Women and Islam); the burqa is not specifically mentioned in the Quran.

It should be noted that dress codes followed by even modern Christian sects, such as followers of the Easter Orthodox Church, Hutterites, Amish and Mennonites are not mentioned in the Bible, but are interpretations of its teachings and laws.

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Ah, but the point is that the wearing of a burka is not a sign of Islam. The requirement appears nowhere in the Koran according the the Congress.

Nor is the wearing of traditional garb by the Hutterites, Amish and Mennonites a sign of Christianity nor does their dress requirements appear anywhere in the Bible. However, to them, wearing said garb is a sign of devotion and piety. Would you deny them the right to dress in accordance to their beliefs?

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Actually, the Burqa predates Islamism and has its roots in pre-Islamic Arabic culture.

Agreement. But I think what WB is getting at is that these countries once touted women in mini skirts when suddenly, all these medieval trappings of Islam made a comeback.

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Telling a burka-wearing woman that she must appear in public without her burka would be equivalent to telling a typical Canadian woman she must go about in public in just her bra. It would leave her feeling vulnerable and exposed. Banning it would simply mean that some women would never leave their homes, as regardless of what the Koran does or doesn’t say, this is what women have been told it says. The best tool in empowering women to make choices in their lives is to ensure their access to education; we know that the two countries that most promote burkas, Afghanistan and Pakistan, are also actively suppressing women’s education. If a woman is able to read the Koran herself, she is able to see what her religion expects of her. I’m betting we aren’t going to see a lot of second or third generation Muslim Canadians wearing a burka.

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Nor is the wearing of traditional garb by the Hutterites, Amish and Mennonites a sign of Christianity nor does their dress requirements appear anywhere in the Bible. However, to them, wearing said garb is a sign of devotion and piety. Would you deny them the right to dress in accordance to their beliefs?

As long as they're not covering there face by wearing a mask, I have no problem with it.

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Actually, the Burqa predates Islamism and has its roots in pre-Islamic Arabic culture.

It should be noted that dress codes followed by even modern Christian sects, such as followers of the Easter Orthodox Church, Hutterites, Amish and Mennonites are not mentioned in the Bible, but are interpretations of its teachings and laws.

Maybe the burka existed thousands of years ago, I dunno. Still, can you provide a single cite of burkas being seen worn by Muslim women in the last 1000 years or so, until the late 70's?

The point is that it is NOT a centuries long Islamic tradition! It is just something dreamed up by male chauvinist mullahs of SOME more primitive or strict Islamic cultures.

The fact that it is a great and useful tool to try to evade anti-terrorist security systems was just a bonus.

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Here we go...

Toronto imam preaching 'hate instead of harmony'

By Charles Lewis, National Post

A Toronto-area imam is under fire for using derogatory language against Jews and Christians, calling for Allah to “destroy” the enemies of Islam from within and calling on God to “damn” the “infidels.”

The address, given last Friday by Imam Saed Rageah at the Abu Huraira Centre and then posted on YouTube (watch it above), is an attack on those who have been calling for a ban on the niqab and burka, both of which cover the faces of women.

http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/h...tians-jews.aspx

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Here is a clear example of whom we should be able to strip his citizenship, pack his bags and ass, and put on the next flight back to his ex homeland....one that no doubt he would be welcomed with open arms....

Equally disturbing is how Ireland has just passed its anti-blasphemy law in regards to the UN's call to make criticism of religion...Islam in particular...against the law.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/li...il-1813479.html

As well, the Dutch are going ahead with the trial of Geert Wilders over his movie 'Fitna' which is really just a collection of videos of Islamic terrorism and such with Koranic verses that supposedly justify these acts.

http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2009...ers_to_go_a.php

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Here is a clear example of whom we should be able to strip his citizenship, pack his bags and ass, and put on the next flight back to his ex homeland....one that no doubt he would be welcomed with open arms....

I'd have no problem with this at all. He needs to GTFO. We can send him to Afghanistan so you can target practice, and I would not have a problem with that either.

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