Oleg Bach Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 no, but it shows us that a nation that permits those millions of people the right to vote is simply committing suicide. The majority is always wrong. Don't blame the poor and hopeful blacks for voting him in. There are desperate and disinfranchised people in the states...millions of them...What irked me was the typical 30 year old white soccer mom that was weeping as a positive election results came in - delluded and disconnected white liberals who actually thought that a liberation was coming - Obama continues to spear head for the white status quo. Quote
Guest American Woman Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 peep this hilarious segment: And then peep hilarious segment. Obviously the McCain/Palin ticket was getting the "intelligent" vote, while Obama was getting the "ignorant" vote. a thousand times over Quote
lictor616 Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 And then peep hilarious segment. Obviously the McCain/Palin ticket was getting the "intelligent" vote, while Obama was getting the "ignorant" vote. a thousand times over you do realize that Obama did in fact pall around with bill ayers, a noted terrorist right? I mean even if you were interviewing creatures stupid enough to vote for such a mediocre man as McCain, the people in the clip you showed me are technically correct! amazing isn't it? But again I wasn't talking about McCain and his rabble of deluded and dumb followers. I was showing you how Obama's race was a very big help in his election. To try to defuse that fact by telling me that such an infamous and foul creature as McCain also has stupid voters is quite silly I think. anyhoozle... ain't deMOCKracy awesome in the states!!! You get to pick from Obama and McCain... with such a choice its a wonder they get more then 5% voter turnout at any election.... Then again there's "democracy" and the common practice of running herds of biped cattle through polling places and counting their noses. which is what party politics has degenerated into. Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
lictor616 Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 The majority is always wrong. Don't blame the poor and hopeful blacks for voting him in. There are desperate and disinfranchised people in the states...millions of them...What irked me was the typical 30 year old white soccer mom that was weeping as a positive election results came in - delluded and disconnected white liberals who actually thought that a liberation was coming - Obama continues to spear head for the white status quo. that's because the liberal brainwashed soccer mom has been taught her place in her country... as a second class citizen and rejoices whenever she is given demonstrations of her own dispossession and humiliation. White liberals after all hate themselves. Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
Oleg Bach Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 Democracy...Isn't that when two wolves and one sheep vote on what's for dinner. Quote
Guest American Woman Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 (edited) you do realize that Obama did in fact pall around with bill ayers, a noted terrorist right? I mean even if you were interviewing creatures stupid enough to vote for such a mediocre man as McCain, the people in the clip you showed me are technically correct! amazing isn't it? Nope, they weren't "technically" or otherwise correct. But again I wasn't talking about McCain and his rabble of deluded and dumb followers. I was showing you how Obama's race was a very big help in his election. To try to defuse that fact by telling me that such an infamous and foul creature as McCain also has stupid voters is quite silly I think. Actually, I think it was quite effective in helping me show that Obama didn't win just because of his race. You yourself point out that McCain was "an infamous and foul creature," yet you think the only reason Obama beat "such an infamous and foul creature" is because he is black; not because the majority of the voters were intelligent enough not to vote for "such an infamous and foul creature as McCain." anyhoozle... ain't deMOCKracy awesome in the states!!! You get to pick from Obama and McCain... Worked for me. But I must say, I am constantly envious of the higher caliber of candidates in every other democracy's elections. Edited October 21, 2009 by American Woman Quote
lictor616 Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 (edited) Nope, they weren't "technically" or otherwise correct. Actually, I think it was quite effective in helping me show that Obama didn't win just because of his race. You yourself point out that McCain was "an infamous and foul creature," yet you think the only reason Obama beat "such an infamous and foul creature" is because he is black; not because the majority of the voters were intelligent enough not to vote for "such an infamous and foul creature as McCain." Worked for me. But I must say, I am constantly envious of the higher caliber of candidates in every other democracy's elections. well first off that isn't fair or accurate, the average american voter is neither intelligent nor wise. An american voter is by definition a born dupe (look at any election after Wilson). The historical record is reflects very poorly on their intelligence (i'm not trying to insult them). Any decision on their part is by default not done out of intelligence or any sagacious thinking process because the bulk of the electorate is neither intelligent or sagacious. Again, how can you miss this point? Obama had his presidency called "HISTORIC", "MOMENTOUS", "SPECIAL" and other very obvious superlatives... do you mean to tell me that he was praised because his opponent was a "foul creature"? No again, the hoopla is precisely RACE BASED.... do you think the obamabots went berserk and caught up in a sea of mindless emotionalism because McCain was a silly and mediocre candidate? no... actually on many key policy issues, McCain and Obama were on paper almost indistinguishable... immigration? Nationalization of the economy? you can't put a cigarette paper between them! and yes (though predictably denied by his handlers) obama did pal around ayers... that's a fact... and that's what these voters where referring too... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers_pr...ion_controversy Edited October 21, 2009 by lictor616 Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
Guest American Woman Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 well first off that isn't fair or accurate, the average american voter is neither intelligent nor wise. An american voter is by definition a born dupe. Any decision on their part is by default not done out of intelligence or any sagacious thinking process. If you say so. Being an American voter, ie: a born dupe, I'm not intelligent or wise enough to know as much about it as you would. Again, how can you miss this point? Obama had his presidency called "HISTORIC", "MOMENTOUS", "SPECIAL" and other very obvious superlatives... do you mean to tell me that he was praised because his opponent was a "foul creature"? Saying his winning the presidency is "historic" is quite different from concluding that he won only because of his race. Even an ignorant "born dupe" like me knows that. No again, the hoopla is precisely RACE BASED.... do you think the obamabots went berserk and caught up in a sea of mindless emotionalism because McCain was a silly and mediocre candidate? I think they voted for Obama because "McCain was a silly and mediocre candidate," and when he won, they were excited about the first black man becoming president. Which again, is different from saying they voted for him only because he's black. I think it would be odd if the election of the first African American went unnoticed. and yes (though predictably denied by his handlers) obama did pal around ayers... that's a fact... and that's what these voters where referring too... Even though I'm neither intelligent nor wise, I do know all about Ayers, including the truth regarding your claim of "fact;" and what these voters were referring to was their ignorant notion that Obama is/could be a terrorist. They were also supporting Palin while ignorantly referring to Obama as "an unknown." Quote
lictor616 Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 If you say so. Being an American voter, ie: a born dupe, I'm not intelligent or wise enough to know as much about it as you would. Saying his winning the presidency is "historic" is quite different from concluding that he won only because of his race. Even an ignorant "born dupe" like me knows that. I think they voted for Obama because "McCain was a silly and mediocre candidate," and when he won, they were excited about the first black man becoming president. Which again, is different from saying they voted for him only because he's black. I think it would be odd if the election of the first African American went unnoticed. Even though I'm neither intelligent nor wise, I do know all about Ayers, including the truth regarding your claim of "fact;" and what these voters were referring to was their ignorant notion that Obama is/could be a terrorist. They were also supporting Palin while ignorantly referring to Obama as "an unknown." I did not say that you were an average american... if you want me to make my case for the intelligence or rather lack thereof of the american electorate, I can compile various polls and studies done on the subject... and all alarming. I did not say that you were a born dupe or un-intelligent, so please... Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
lictor616 Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 Saying his winning the presidency is "historic" is quite different from concluding that he won only because of his race. Even an ignorant "born dupe" like me knows that. Historic, unprecedented, special... these were the type of words used incessantly and without let up.... Its pretty unambiguous... and none of them can be attributable to McCain's poor campaign showing... How can besting a candidate be dubbed "historic" or "unprecedented" or even: "special"? Assuming something short of total willful obtuseness... you know WHY these words were used to define Obama's win... again please do not misinterpret what I said: I DID NOT CALL YOU A BORN dupe..., I'd rather not talk about you personally. I'm keeping my eye on the ball here. Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
lictor616 Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 I think they voted for Obama because "McCain was a silly and mediocre candidate," and when he won, they were excited about the first black man becoming president. Which again, is different from saying they voted for him only because he's black. I think it would be odd if the election of the first African American went unnoticed. ah I see, so beating a "silly and mediocre candidate" you say is what makes Obama's victory "historic" "unprecedented" "momentous" "special".... am I getting you clearly ? Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
M.Dancer Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 Historic, unprecedented, special... these were the type of words used incessantly and without let up.... Its pretty unambiguous... and none of them can be attributable to McCain's poor campaign showing...How can besting a candidate be dubbed "historic" or "unprecedented" or even: "special"? Assuming something short of total willful obtuseness... you know WHY these words were used to define Obama's win... again please do not misinterpret what I said: I DID NOT CALL YOU A BORN dupe..., I'd rather not talk about you personally. I'm keeping my eye on the ball here. I imagine the same types of expression were used to desribe Kennedy's victory of Nixon. Because we know, Kennedy was a negro... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Guest American Woman Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 (edited) I did not say that you were an average american... if you want me to make my case for the intelligence or rather lack thereof of the american electorate, I can compile various polls and studies done on the subject... and all alarming. I did not say that you were a born dupe or un-intelligent, so please... Come on. "Various polls" and "studies?" Give me a break. The average American voter is no different from the average voter of any other democratic/western nation. Edited October 21, 2009 by American Woman Quote
Guest American Woman Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 (edited) ah I see, so beating a "silly and mediocre candidate" you say is what makes Obama's victory "historic" "unprecedented" "momentous" "special".... am I getting you clearly ? Hardly, which I find puzzling since I clearly said that Obama's being Black is what makes his victory "historic," which I also clearly said is quite different from saying he won because he's Black. Again, I'll repeat, it would be odd if the first Black to win the POTUS wasn't referred to at all; if his win wasn't referred to as "historic." I'm sure the same will be said when the first woman wins. But let me guess-- when she does, it'll be only because she's female. Anyone who wins other than a white man will win only because they aren't a white man; while when white men win, it's because they are oh-so-deserving. Edited October 21, 2009 by American Woman Quote
lictor616 Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 Come on. "Various polls" and "studies?" Give me a break. The average American voter is no different from the average voter of any other nation. which still doesn't say much about the american electorate i'm afraid!!! hahaha seriously but no... to give you an example, about 51% of american's don't believe in evolution for starters, --half of you can name 4 characters from "The Simpsons," but less than a quarter can name more than one of the guaranteed rights in the First Amendment. --only 2 out of 5 voters can name all three branches of the federal government. --only 1 in 5 know that there are 100 federal senators. --only 1 in 7 can find Iraq on a map. --only one-fifth of Americans between ages 18-34 bother to keep up with current events. there are many many more studies done on american voter eligibility... http://hnn.us/blogs/72.html and they all reflect VERY poorly on the average american voter. Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
lictor616 Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 Hardly, which I find puzzling since I clearly said that Obama's being Black is what makes his victory "historic," which I also clearly said is quite different from saying he won because he's Black. Again, I'll repeat, it would be odd if the first Black to win the POTUS wasn't referred to at all; if his win wasn't referred to as "historic." I'm sure the same will be said when the first woman wins. But let me guess-- when she does, it'll be only because she's female. Anyone who wins other than a white man will win only because they aren't a white man; while when white men win, it's because they are oh-so-deserving. LOOL! oh so I see, being black is what makes him special and so coveted by the public...but don't for a minute think that his being black favored him or got him any votes... nonono sir... of course not... black voter turnout was twice as high as in the last election, and was 95-96% for obama... but we're supposed to believe that all these votes were policy related... facepalm* Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
Oleg Bach Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 Then there is our honourary American member Bush Cheney. Who is fully aware of everything ...is he your average American or part of an elite? I can answer that question..not all Americans live in state sponsored ignorance...but the majority do..and the majority are the ones that vote. So in eccense there is no real democracy..who ever controls the Springer and Ophra show controls the nation. Quote
Guest American Woman Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 (edited) which still doesn't say much about the american electorate i'm afraid!!! hahahaseriously but no... to give you an example, about 51% of american's don't believe in evolution for starters..................... and they all reflect VERY poorly on the average american voter. There are plenty of studies that show people from other nations don't fair much better, if at all, than Americans do; but of course it's the Americans that everyone focuses on. Seriously. The difference in how people from other nations fare is not even negligible. It's like someone bragging because they got an F+ instead of an F on an exam or because they only missed 58 questions out of a hundred instead of 59. I'm constantly amazed by how little people from other nations know when I travel. Sometimes I think this idea that Americans are less knowledgeable than the world at large is a fallacy that the rest of the world falls on to feel some sort of superiority over Americans. And it all reflects just as poorly on all the other voters out there ......... Edited October 21, 2009 by American Woman Quote
Oleg Bach Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 Good point. The majority of people world wide are a trusting bunch. They for generations have been processed to trust what they consider are authorities. To trust religion with out giving the doctrines any real consideration. It seems that the average person is terrified of leaving that comfort zone. So they choose to intentionally ignore any thing that seems suspect to them. In other words very few can handle the truth. That being that the world is brutal and corrupt...so off the human mind goes into a state of fantacy - It is fear that governs all...It is like a child realizing that it's parents eat the young - No child wants to face that reality. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 There are plenty of studies that show people from other nations don't fair much better, if at all, than Americans do; but of course it's the Americans that everyone focuses on..... That's right.....I will only start to worry when they stop focusing so relentlessly on America and all things American. Still waiting for the "China Politics" forum. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Oleg Bach Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 That's right.....I will only start to worry when they stop focusing so relentlessly on America and all things American. Still waiting for the "China Politics" forum. What's it like being the biggest pirate on the block with the deepest and very empty eye socket in the land? America is now offically the privateer who wears the glass eye patch. Jezzz soon as you showed up BC - the pressure is on to be entertaining..wait...can I remember the tap dance routine I learned as a boy? What ....you did not know that dear old mum sent off the two older brothers to dance school...? I thought everyone could tap dance...I watched all the American movies like an admiring Korean despot...I know America...I saw the movie. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 21, 2009 Report Posted October 21, 2009 ... I thought everyone could tap dance...I watched all the American movies like an admiring Korean despot...I know America...I saw the movie. Greetings Oleg...I guess you are right....America is the movie that never ends for you guys....get some more popcorn. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Oleg Bach Posted October 22, 2009 Report Posted October 22, 2009 Greetings Oleg...I guess you are right....America is the movie that never ends for you guys....get some more popcorn. I just wish the prejudice against the America person would come to an end in Canada - They do not understand that they are JUST like the Americans ..just a more secretive version. The only reason I see Canadians attack America is because they commit the same sins..and the diversionary critizm grants them solace. Good to see you..to bad that some of the members here did not get to know you as I did. You have educated me in the soul and life force of your nation... thanks again - I'm not pandering nor am I looking to be excused. Can you really judge a person or nation through the art they produce? I really don't think so once it becomes base though commercialization...once you paint or play for cash or make love for money you are a whore - and we are whores. Quote
jbg Posted October 22, 2009 Report Posted October 22, 2009 Democracy...Isn't that when two wolves and one sheep vote on what's for dinner. No. That's a Liberal or NDP majority. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
lictor616 Posted October 22, 2009 Report Posted October 22, 2009 There are plenty of studies that show people from other nations don't fair much better, if at all, than Americans do; but of course it's the Americans that everyone focuses on. Seriously. The difference in how people from other nations fare is not even negligible. It's like someone bragging because they got an F+ instead of an F on an exam or because they only missed 58 questions out of a hundred instead of 59. I'm constantly amazed by how little people from other nations know when I travel. Sometimes I think this idea that Americans are less knowledgeable than the world at large is a fallacy that the rest of the world falls on to feel some sort of superiority over Americans.And it all reflects just as poorly on all the other voters out there ......... The fact that other nations also have large swathes of their population that shouldn't be anywhere near a voting poll doesn't change the fundamental fact that by and large the american electorate is not capable of yielding rational, sober or particularly sagacious decisions. I'm not bragging about the generally shabby state of the electorate in canada (who suffers from a similar party politics disease), I've already told you that the vast bulk of any electorate are less then worthless in democratic societies. Your nation teaches "creationism" alongside evolution, and can't point out to the country they are currently at war with (and HAVE BEEN at war with before) any sort of attempt to legitimize such an appalling state of affairs might as well go out the window. Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
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