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DogOnPorch has officially lost the argument.

Gotta love the peanut gallery. My point is that there are no-go-zones in France and I provided proof. It's the rest of you no-frontal lobers that put the spin on it...as usual.

Moi: For the slow out there...the links provide information on France's no-go-zones. The story of Samira Bellil is also worth finding out about as she describes how women...both Mulsim and non-Muslim...are treated in predominantly Muslim neighborhoods in Paris.
peanut #1: All you have is opinion that doesn't count for anything. Show me a study that says the average muslim is more likly to be violent then the average atheist, christian, jew or any other religous person.
peanut #2: No it is about how people hate Muslims for crimes yet do not hate white Christians who do the same thing. Glade you had no response to what I said makes me feel somewhere deep down you know I am right.

So nice of you to judge...but isn't there a jar of peanut butter you could join?

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You see this is your problem, you can't or won't accept that 9/11 was simply a retaliation, not an opening shot.

They probably sound much like you.

So killing thousands of innocent people on 9/11 in justified????????

People who had nothing to do with Govenrment policy???..no what these scumbag's did

is the same thing the Japanese in WW2 they awakened the West to how horrible and evil this religion

is becoming! and now the West has responded by attacking radical Islam and crushing them

Bin Laden and his cronies are basically pinned under ground if they come out into

the open too long a satelite with face recognition will detect him and a drone will smoke his ass!

Western Europe is just now waking up to the danger these people pose and Canada is in a war against

radical Islam...........i am sure our soldiers would love to hear how you and others on here actually

rationalize what these animals are doing!

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Yah I bet you would love to walk through parts of Cali, NJ, NY at night becuase you aren't wearing blue no one will do anything to you.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2008/03/c..._dead_in_e.html

Maybe, maybe not. These are violent slums. No doubt the ones in France are violent, as well. But there is a difference. The violence in an American gheto is not based on religion. If you rush into some house where a bunch of gang bangers are hanging out and say "Hey, I saw a jew/hindu/muslim walking down the street!" they'll look at you like you're from mars. They won't give a crap. If you say "I saw some stranger walking down the street!" they likewise won't give a damn.

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The bible condones slavery, rape, and murder. Why don't I ever see you post about how bad christianity is. Christians have done and do pretty much all the things that muslims do.

As has already been stated, everyone's religious books condone some terrible things, probably because the social standards when they were written many centuries back were, compared to our own, rather uhm, backward.

The difference is that Christianity and other religions have, for the most part, been elevated by changing the way those ancient texts are interpreted. You would be hard-pressed to find a Christian theologian in the West calling for the literal words of the bible to be put into law. Protestant and Catholic priests and reverends are not pounding their pulpits demanding people be executed for the various sins the bible decries, or calling for war on the unbelievers. The pope does not get up in front of an audience and say Jews are pigs and monkeys and beg God to destroy them all.

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As has already been stated, everyone's religious books condone some terrible things, probably because the social standards when they were written many centuries back were, compared to our own, rather uhm, backward.

The difference is that Christianity and other religions have, for the most part, been elevated by changing the way those ancient texts are interpreted. You would be hard-pressed to find a Christian theologian in the West calling for the literal words of the bible to be put into law. Protestant and Catholic priests and reverends are not pounding their pulpits demanding people be executed for the various sins the bible decries, or calling for war on the unbelievers. The pope does not get up in front of an audience and say Jews are pigs and monkeys and beg God to destroy them all.

on the contrary the catholics are the premier promoters of "interfaith" dialogs, and are so lacking in self respect and dignity that they would rather ally themselves with their theological enemies: Islam then defend Western Secularism...

The pope is for all practical purposes on the OTHER SIDE.

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Well, I guess we'll see wont we.

So you support these Muslims who come from a vastly different country then Canada coming here in record numbers who will one day be the majority here and will change thee country forever. You're all in favor of this. I got it.

If you think the current demographic of Canada will stay the way it is now you're in for a big surprise in about 20-30 years. Muslims will be the majority of close to it and will begin to vote into power people who will pass Sharia law in Canada.

If we don't act now honor killings will be the norm. Public beheadings will become the norm. Hands being cut off for stealing an apple will become the norm.

I hope you guys know what you're doing.

Absolutely right Mr Canada!

unfortunately many won t believe it until it much to late! the country is being ruined

right in front of our eyes........save your old pictures, the Canada in the future will look vastly different!

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Absolutely right Mr Canada!

unfortunately many won t believe it until it much to late! the country is being ruined

right in front of our eyes........save your old pictures, the Canada in the future will look vastly different!

ahooga! ahooga!... Newsflash! Harper moves to secure the release of jailed Muslim Canadian Huseyin Celil from Chinese prison.

guys, guys - what the hay is going on around here! If we can't rely on the Harper Conservatives to keep em out... we're doomed! Doomed, I say!!!

(oh wait... apparently, this Huseyin Celil guy is a "good Muslim" since he's been outspoken against the Chinese. But... but... he's a Muslim. Damnit, what's Harper up to now?)

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Invasion is exactly what it is!!

We as is Europe are under invasion slow but sure! another few years and this country will be unrecognizable

Radical islam is moving laying low not drawing to much attention until there are so many of them we will

be forced into the country side! This is what is happening in Europe it is only a matter of time before it comes here!!

Perhaps if our civilization is so weak and deluded that we cannot withstand the current challenge of Islamic extremism, it does not deserve to linger on. Many great civilizations fell when confronted with barbarism, but it was not the barbarians that destroyed them, but rather internal rot and weakness. Perhaps once the whole of the world is Islamified, the civilization they build will be more sure of itself, less willing to bend over to the whims of minorities who would destroy it. And perhaps if we're lucky all we'll have to do is bow down and swear that we follow Islam and we'll be allowed to live in it.

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Perhaps if our civilization is so weak and deluded that we cannot withstand the current challenge of Islamic extremism, it does not deserve to linger on. Many great civilizations fell when confronted with barbarism, but it was not the barbarians that destroyed them, but rather internal rot and weakness. Perhaps once the whole of the world is Islamified, the civilization they build will be more sure of itself, less willing to bend over to the whims of minorities who would destroy it. And perhaps if we're lucky all we'll have to do is bow down and swear that we follow Islam and we'll be allowed to live in it.

What a coward you are. Too afraid to fight for your own self preservation. You'd rather lie down and play dead and submit to these foreign invaders. Cowardice is not rewarded.

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What a coward you are. Too afraid to fight for your own self preservation. You'd rather lie down and play dead and submit to these foreign invaders. Cowardice is not rewarded.

Considering that if you were doing any "fighting" against Muslim immigrants in Canada you'd probably be in jail, I'm gonna guess you are a "coward" also.

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Considering that if you were doing any "fighting" against Muslim immigrants in Canada you'd probably be in jail, I'm gonna guess you are a "coward" also.

I fight them every chance I get, legally of course. Our prisons are crowded with Muslims nowadays. I wonder why that is? Must be that lovely thing called immigration. Isn't it wonderful?

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I fight them every chance I get, legally of course. Our prisons are crowded with Muslims nowadays. I wonder why that is? Must be that lovely thing called immigration. Isn't it wonderful?

Mr. Canada... fighting Muslims... one MLW post at a time!!! :lol:

of course - you wouldn't mind providing those crowded prison Muslim population statistics - right?

and why stop there... let's have your statistics on the actual immigration numbers for Muslims. Certainly with all your vehement railing you have numbers to back your vitriolic assertions - certainly, right?

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I fight them every chance I get, legally of course. Our prisons are crowded with Muslims nowadays. I wonder why that is?

Are you implying that you are a police officer and contribute to the righteous struggle by filling of our prisons with Muslims?

Must be that lovely thing called immigration. Isn't it wonderful?

I'm sure you are aware of my stance on immigration if you've been reading these forums lately. In case you've missed it, I am largely opposed to the immigration of mass numbers of people that hold Western values at best in disregard and quite possibly in contempt. I believe we need much tighter controls on immigration.

However, by far the prevalent views in Western society are those of "tolerance" and "multiculturalism". Importation of immigrants by the hundreds of thousands is explained as "economically beneficial", with no evidence to support this. Proponents state that if not for immigration, our population would "die out" due to "sub-replacement" birth rates, as if those would not increase given the right circumstances.

That is why I speak of the weakness and rot of Western civilization. If we descend into guilt and self-destruction when faced with opposition from nations and peoples much less advanced than us and cannot take even the smallest steps to preserve our own civilization, then perhaps it is not worth preserving. If these tiny challenges we face now are so insurmountable given our culture, then what chance will mankind have in the future, if it is based on our civilization? Perhaps a civilization based on a more aggressive, more certain, more virulent set of values and ideals would have a better chance of triumphing over the challenges that mankind is sure to face in the future.

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My view on immigration is we certainly need tighter controls to who we let in! People who will contribute

doctors, lawyers...well ok maybe not lawyers but people who will be of some benefit to Canada,

however there also should be a procedure where as Muslim who speak out against western culture

who make threats should immediately be deported, there are all kinds of clerics in Canada

who promote hate and terrorism.....they should be escorted to the nearest airport and air dropped

somewhere over the Middle east, Parachute optional at the crews discretion!

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What a coward you are. Too afraid to fight for your own self preservation. You'd rather lie down and play dead and submit to these foreign invaders. Cowardice is not rewarded.

quite true.

The only question of any importance for the West today is: To be? Or to be nice?

The laws of nature and civilization have not been repealed, and ours is a world of: "fight or die".

And after our passing, we people of the West, despite our incomparable science, our magnificent literature, our glorious history, our great and noble ancestors... no people after our time will mourn our dissapearence. We will be remembered (if at all) only in mockery and derision, as an ethnicity/race of people too befuddled by the ugly and nonsensical canard of liberalism to defend itself.

This is why the situation is so urgent today. We Westerners must go forward unperturbed by the hysterical screeching of politicians (whatever may be their motives).

We need no longer listen to assurances that mister X-Y-Z (ie: Obama, Layton, Ignatieff) of the loony left is a well meaning person who should be allowed ruining our country, our nations, our Civilization, because he's just chocked full of "progressive ideals" and "egalitarian love" and is playing with our lives as innocently as he used to play with teddy bears.

Traitors, no matter what is their professed goal, no matter what their aim... are STILL TRAITORS. Their acts must not be excused and they should not go unpunished.

If it be extremism to be loyal to one's country... then WE ARE EXTREMISTS,

and if it be "racism" to want to preserve our own lives and the lives of our children then we are RACISTS and that is that.

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Absolutely right Mr Canada!

unfortunately many won t believe it until it much to late! the country is being ruined

right in front of our eyes........save your old pictures, the Canada in the future will look vastly different!

Get used to change, because it will always happen. Always has, always will.

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I totally agree with you. I've said it before that some liberals should be arrested and put on trial as traitors. As they are betraying their own country with every breath. Every word they speak a poison to our people, they are inviting our own annihilation and they're taking it all the way to the bank. Makes me sick, angry and even a little sad to think what is going to become of this once great land.

Sir John A MacDonald is rolling in his grave. This is not the Canada he envisioned.

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I totally agree with you. I've said it before that some liberals should be arrested and put on trial as traitors. As they are betraying their own country with every breath. Every word they speak a poison to our people, they are inviting our own annihilation and they're taking it all the way to the bank. Makes me sick, angry and even a little sad to think what is going to become of this once great land.

Sir John A MacDonald is rolling in his grave. This is not the Canada he envisioned.

If you actually knew anything about this country, you would know that this has never been the Canada that Sir John A. envisioned. Etienne-Cartier saw things more clearly than Macdonald did. And I am sure both would be appalled by your complete disregard for the civil liberties of those whom you disagree with.

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If you actually knew anything about this country, you would know that this has never been the Canada that Sir John A. envisioned. Etienne-Cartier saw things more clearly than Macdonald did. And I am sure both would be appalled by your complete disregard for the civil liberties of those whom you disagree with.

civil liberties? Our own charter makes us: the descendents of MacDonald and Etienne-Cartier second class citizens in the country our forefathers built! Our charter tells us to ignore equality, and civil liberties in lieu of affirmative action...

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civil liberties? Our own charter makes us: the descendents of MacDonald and Etienne-Cartier second class citizens in the country our forefathers built! Our charter tells us to ignore equality, and civil liberties in lieu of affirmative action...

... or ... ensures those civil liberties are equally available to all, including those historically overlooked.

Your perception is only your reality.

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This discussion has begun to skew off of what originally focused on. Instances of extremist religious perspectives being the motivation for morally obligatory actions like murder and whether or not these instances are a reason to create a bias on letting people of that religion into the country.

On the first note I think it should be mentioned that Muslims are not the only religious extremists that use their religion as a basis for morally obscure acts. I’ll give the age old example of Catholics and Protestants murdering each other based on religious differences in past and modern United Kingdom and Northern Ireland. Religion has been and always will be an excuse for a few mentally unstable people to use an excuse for their actions; and yes when these people get into positions of power terrible things can happen, like the Crusades and the pointless murder that came with them. People of only an unhealthy mind will commit such travesties and that the Middle East in its current messy position happens to produce an expedient number of unhealthy minded people who can all unify under the banner of a religion when their nations are tattered an unable to stabilize. Their religion is simply gas to the fire, not fire itself.

This brings me to the solution to preventing these catastrophes. Obviously we Canadians would both like our country to be as stable as possible while being as prosperous as possible. Basic economics teaches us that people are quite possible the most valuable resource to any economy, making immigration, a tool that raise population and therefore the working force prosperous when the nation is prosperous. This is to say, when we can employ more people that we can “naturally” produce, immigration is the answer. However it would be extremely counterproductive to introduce immigrants who would destabilize the country, unstable people make for an unstable society. It is a reality that a great number of people from the Middle East, and this being where most Muslims of the world are from, are unstable people because of their aforementioned unstable environment. As the simple syntax if the sentence suggests their religion is separate from there instability, mentally associated. Solution: Canadian immigration policy should focus more on mental stability; whether the people we are letting into this country are sane, religion is irrelevant. We set a standard for what us as Canadians as a society see as sane and avoid letting people who defer from that standard in. Everyone can agree that we should keep crazy people out. This lends itself to broader ideas like leaning towards more secular government that does contain religious motivations, but acknowledges that religion motivates people. Also that an improved standard of living in the Middle East, or in different words, the stabilization of the region could produce a better environment for healthier minds to develop; that foreign affairs in Canada’s best chance at defeating terrorism, is to defeat the reasons to terrorize.

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... or ... ensures those civil liberties are equally available to all, including those historically overlooked.

Your perception is only your reality.

oh but Tango pooh... how in the world do you figure that?

do you REALLY believe that giving minorities *preferrential* treatment and allowing their race or ethnicity to be considered as a bonus towards getting a job or getting admitted to universities... do you really believe that this is "equal treatment"? Or egalitarianism?

Affrimative action is NOT available to all... that's the whole point... and I,ve demonstrated what extremes that can lead to (situations where even federal employers specifically and overtly BAR WHITE MALES FROM APPLYING TO CERTAIN JOBS).

Either way, I'm quite certain that our forefathers simply never could have imagined that their descendants would be so stupid as to want to extend equality to NON-EUROPEANS... NEVER MIND *PREFERRENTIAL TREATMENT*!

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oh but Tango pooh... how in the world do you figure that?

do you REALLY believe that giving minorities *preferrential* treatment and allowing their race or ethnicity to be considered as a bonus towards getting a job or getting admitted to universities... do you really believe that this is "equal treatment"? Or egalitarianism?

Affrimative action is NOT available to all... that's the whole point... and I,ve demonstrated what extremes that can lead to (situations where even federal employers specifically and overtly BAR WHITE MALES FROM APPLYING TO CERTAIN JOBS).

Either way, I'm quite certain that our forefathers simply never could have imagined that their descendants would be so stupid as to want to extend equality to NON-EUROPEANS... NEVER MIND *PREFERRENTIAL TREATMENT*!

Very true!

in a few years being white in Canada will be a major handicap in every aspect.........welcome to your new Canada!

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