1967100 Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 (edited) In Canada according to the criminal code perjury carries a term prison sentence of up to 14 years while bribery holds that people convicted of the crime would be sentenced to up to 5 years. Mulroney, the former Prime Minister, has spent the last 14 years using up public taxmoney to defend himself while taking more money in the form of "damage compensation". Do you think that the Oliphant inquiry will deliver enough evidence when they deliver their report at the end of the year to justify a corruption trial, possibly sending Mulroney to prison for years? Edited August 8, 2009 by 1967100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whowhere Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 In Canada according to the criminal code perjury carries a term prison sentence of up to 14 years while bribery holds that people convicted of the crime would be sentenced to up to 5 years. Mulroney, the former Prime Minister, has spent the last 14 years using up public taxmoney to defend himself while taking more money in the form of "damage compensation". Do you think that the Oliphant inquiry will deliver enough evidence when they deliver their report at the end of the year to justify a corruption trial, possibly sending Mulroney to prison for years? He's lucky he's not in the US. They would have thrown his ass in jail long ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Bandelot Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Other- No, but I wish he would Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keepitsimple Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 He'll be convicted of stupidity and sentenced to even more embarrassment and disdain. Having said that, lets not forget that Richard Nixon went on to play important roles as a statesman in dealing with China and others. Although he took his Watergate legacy to the grave, he was respected by many. Bill Clinton was impeached and thrown out of office but still wanders the world, adored by the Left. Mulroney's Irish blarney made him what was was probably Canada's most effective leader on the world stage. He too will likely take this sad chapter to his grave, but in time, he may be able to play some sort of role for Canada as an elder statesman. Time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malaclypse the Younger Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 If Larry O'Brien can get away with stealing an election, why wouldn't Brian Mulroney get away with his slimey affairs? Despite what the law says, politicians are above the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malaclypse the Younger Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 (edited) He'll be convicted of stupidity and sentenced to even more embarrassment and disdain. Having said that, lets not forget that Richard Nixon went on to play important roles as a statesman in dealing with China and others. Although he took his Watergate legacy to the grave, he was respected by many. Bill Clinton was impeached and thrown out of office but still wanders the world, adored by the Left. Mulroney's Irish blarney made him what was was probably Canada's most effective leader on the world stage. He too will likely take this sad chapter to his grave, but in time, he may be able to play some sort of role for Canada as an elder statesman. Time will tell. Bill Clinton didn't actually commit any crime. One of these things is not like the others. Edited August 8, 2009 by Malaclypse the Younger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Bill Clinton didn't actually commit any crime. One of these things is not like the others. In the US, lying under oath is a very serious crime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 How about a poll option saying no he's innocent? This poll is rigged. Either you choose he'll go to jail, or he'll get away with it, assuming in all cases that he's guilty. The only alternative is the non-descript "other." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 How about a poll option saying no he's innocent? You believe he's innocent? Are you capable of looking at anything without being deluded by your ideology? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Actually, Shady's right though. He hasn't been found guilty of anything. He may not be found guilty of anything. I'm not saying that what he did was right, but was it legal? We'll have to wait and see. I don't see him going to jail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keepitsimple Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 You believe he's innocent? Are you capable of looking at anything without being deluded by your ideology? The topic starter and you are ideologically blind to one fact: Brian Mulroney has never been charged with any crime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdobbin Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 He'll be convicted of stupidity and sentenced to even more embarrassment and disdain. I don't think so. He is about to be treated triumphantly by the Conservative party. Harper has taken the restriction off the party. Having said that, lets not forget that Richard Nixon went on to play important roles as a statesman in dealing with China and others. Although he took his Watergate legacy to the grave, he was respected by many. Bill Clinton was impeached and thrown out of office but still wanders the world, adored by the Left. Mulroney's Irish blarney made him what was was probably Canada's most effective leader on the world stage. He too will likely take this sad chapter to his grave, but in time, he may be able to play some sort of role for Canada as an elder statesman. Time will tell. Mulroney won't go to prison but he certainly raised eyebrows for playing fast and loose and accepting money from a man that many Tories found shady. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whowhere Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 The topic starter and you are ideologically blind to one fact: Brian Mulroney has never been charged with any crime. Good point, charge him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Actually, Shady's right though. He hasn't been found guilty of anything. He may not be found guilty of anything. I'm not saying that what he did was right, but was it legal? We'll have to wait and see. Thank you. That's all I was getting at. If he's charged and found guilty, then fine, he obviously needs to go to jail. But the fact that there isn't even an option on the poll, to even think, even as remotely impossible as some may find, that he's not guilty of a crime, is pretty unfair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig1 Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 A trial can be a very bad thing as then the investigation can come to an end. Mulroney could if found incocent write a damn book if he feels how he scammed Canadians. Its better to never allow this off his chest but make him carry this to his grave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capricorn Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 A trial can be a very bad thing as then the investigation can come to an end. Well, we wouldn't want this to come an end now would we. Mulroney bashing has become somewhat of a national pastime for some politicos who hang on to every last morbid morsel. Hey, there must be something that has not yet been uncovered. Perhaps Schreiber will tell all from his German prison, we can only hope. Sarcasm aside, I've had enough of this dark comedy. Its better to never allow this off his chest but make him carry this to his grave. Mulroney doesn't need a trial to get it off his chest. And as a taxpayer, I don't want to pay for a trial that may make him feel better about himself. He could write a book and get the same result, which is maybe he did and maybe he didn't. Whatever the case, the jury would still be out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig1 Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Well, we wouldn't want this to come an end now would we. Mulroney bashing has become somewhat of a national pastime for some politicos who hang on to every last morbid morsel. Hey, there must be something that has not yet been uncovered. Perhaps Schreiber will tell all from his German prison, we can only hope. Sarcasm aside, I've had enough of this dark comedy.Mulroney doesn't need a trial to get it off his chest. And as a taxpayer, I don't want to pay for a trial that may make him feel better about himself. He could write a book and get the same result, which is maybe he did and maybe he didn't. Whatever the case, the jury would still be out. sheeple seem to have a short memory so yes keep it at atention if the name Mulruney and scandel comes up every 5 years his kids will hear about it, his grandkids will hear about it an their grand kids will hear about it, he tarnished his name for ever a elite family that was destined for the best and whose for fathers built a empire, and to let Brian self destruct the family image is priceless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest elizabethjones Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Bill Clinton was impeached and thrown out of office but still wanders the world, adored by the Left. You are mistaken he was impeached but there was no trial and so he was not thrown out of office. He finished his 2nd term and left more popular than Cheney/Bush did. The impeachment was strictly political and that is why there was no trial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 You are mistaken he was impeached but there was no trial and so he was not thrown out of office. He finished his 2nd term and left more popular than Cheney/Bush did. The impeachment was strictly political and that is why there was no trial. False...there was a trial and it lasted over a month. President Clinton was found not-guilty. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_o...the_U.S._Senate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 But the fact that there isn't even an option on the poll, to even think, even as remotely impossible as some may find, that he's not guilty of a crime, is pretty unfair. You must not be aware of his testimony. There wasn't much doubt of his guilt left among anyone who was paying attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keepitsimple Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 You must not be aware of his testimony. There wasn't much doubt of his guilt left among anyone who was paying attention. Guilty of what? He has not yet been charged with a crime. What crime are you thinking he is guilty of? I don't agree at all with the way he has conducted his "business" but I'm not yet aware of any crime that he could be "guilty" of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tango Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Guilty of what? He has not yet been charged with a crime. What crime are you thinking he is guilty of? I don't agree at all with the way he has conducted his "business" but I'm not yet aware of any crime that he could be "guilty" of. I believe it had something to do with being paid kickbacks (bribes) for contracts when he was Prime Minister. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keepitsimple Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 I believe it had something to do with being paid kickbacks (bribes) for contracts when he was Prime Minister. Shady or not, the inquiry found absolutely no evidence that Mulroney took any money while he was Prime Minister. The inquiry has focused on what happened after he left office and therfore what he did as a private citizen. So my question stands - he has never been charged with any crime - what specific crime do you think he could be charged with as a result of the inquiry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig1 Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Shady or not, the inquiry found absolutely no evidence that Mulroney took any money while he was Prime Minister. The inquiry has focused on what happened after he left office and therfore what he did as a private citizen. So my question stands - he has never been charged with any crime - what specific crime do you think he could be charged with as a result of the inquiry? He admitted to taking money he also committed tax fraud by not claiming it on his income tax all those years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 He admitted to taking money he also committed tax fraud by not claiming it on his income tax all those years. But he cut a deal with the government for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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