Healthcare Reform, Town halls and mobs.

punked · August 20, 2009

America produces and delivers more health care than Canada.

But it does not do so for its own citizens.

bush_cheney2004 · August 20, 2009

But it does not do so for its own citizens.

...yes, and for Canadian citizens too.

punked · August 20, 2009

...yes, and for Canadian citizens too.

Yep while 22,000 Americans die every year it lets Canadians jump the boarders to jump the line and screw everyone with out money. Doing nothing is not an option.

Oleg Bach · August 20, 2009

Yep while 22,000 Americans die every year it lets Canadians jump the boarders to jump the line and screw everyone with out money. Doing nothing is not an option.

What's true is that those with "money" are usually the less moral people..those willing to harm others to profit - so if we keep the money people alive and let the poor good people die - then eventually - we will have a race of only evil people - and then they will be withoug us to eat - and will eat each other _ I say go for it - because eventually you might just run out of human blood to drink. :lol:

bush_cheney2004 · August 20, 2009

Yep while 22,000 Americans die every year it lets Canadians jump the boarders to jump the line and screw everyone with out money. Doing nothing is not an option.

Looks like Canadians are doing something.....taking advantage of excess capacity in the USA.

Make up your confused mind....is it 15,000 or 22,000....LOL! :lol:

punked · August 20, 2009

Looks like Canadians are doing something.....taking advantage of excess capacity in the USA.
Make up your confused mind....is it 15,000 or 22,000....LOL!

There is not excess capacity, there are just Americans not getting care. Doing nothing is not an option.

I posted a link to the 22,000 number maybe you missed it because reading is hard for you.

bush_cheney2004 · August 20, 2009

There is not excess capacity, there are just Americans not getting care. Doing nothing is not an option.
I posted a link to the 22,000 number maybe you missed it because reading is hard for you.

You posted 15,000 many times too....are you confused? I hope those American links can help you out.

Whooops...there goes another one! :lol:

punked · August 20, 2009

You posted 15,000 many times too....are you confused? I hope those American links can help you out.
Whooops...there goes another one!

Yes I did post 15,000 however the number is 22,000 I posted a link to the source you can go back and find it.

Doing nothing is not an option.

Shady · August 20, 2009

You posted 15,000 many times too....are you confused?

Tomorrow it'll be 30,000. :lol:

punked · August 20, 2009

Now it is about US.

Vitter: My Goal On Drug Reimportation Is To Destroy Other Countries' Health Care Systems

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/08...s.php?ref=fpblg

PS Shady you should not be happy that in last 8 years the number has gone from 15,000 to 22,000 it is shameful doing nothing isn't an option.

eyeball · August 20, 2009

Stop whining.....put up or shut up. Either get the votes or fold the tent and go home.
"Evil people".....LOL!

Does that kind of crap work in Canadian politics ?

Routinely.

Shady · August 20, 2009

where 15000 people die every year

Die every year from what?

eyeball · August 20, 2009

Americans have been so systemically beaten down by the iron fist of Darwinian capitialism - that they are conditioned to believe that they don't have a right to life unless they are rich

I think this is both sad and true. I think this gullibility must stem from the same capacity to suspend disbelief that religion cultivates.

bush_cheney2004 · August 20, 2009

I think this is both sad and true. I think this gullibility must stem from the same capacity to suspend disbelief that religion cultivates.

...still....there is no Canadian Dream...never has been.

punked · August 20, 2009

Die every year from what?

From being uninsured shady. They die becuase they don't seek the care they need. They die becuase they have to ration care and food or heat. They die becuase of the system Shady. Doing nothing is not an Option.

bush_cheney2004 · August 20, 2009

From being uninsured shady. They die becuase they don't seek the care they need. They die becuase they have to ration care and food or heat. They die becuase of the system Shady. Doing nothing is not an Option.

So what kills those homeless and dying people in Vancouver?

GostHacked · August 20, 2009

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/08/20/hea...info/index.html

Another article that sums up my sentiments about how these town hall meetings quickly turn into uncivil uneducated meme shouting matches. Just like this thread has become.

Not a fan of Tom Daschle, but he does make a good point with

"It's hyperbolic, it's fear-mongering, it's actually politics at its worst," Daschle said Sunday on NBC's "Meet the Press." "That's the kind of thing that generates the kind of anger and fear and anxiety that people have today."

punked · August 20, 2009

So what kills those homeless and dying people in Vancouver?

I agree another problem we must solve. I don't see why you keep turning away from the arguing and pointing out things I agree with. Yes we have problems we need to solve Health care is even one of them but we have at least started the process for a better future. Doing nothing should never be an option on problems so big.

bush_cheney2004 · August 20, 2009

I agree another problem we must solve. I don't see why you keep turning away from the arguing and pointing out things I agree with. Yes we have problems we need to solve Health care is even one of them but we have at least started the process for a better future. Doing nothing should never be an option on problems so big.

But doing nothing has been an option, and still is. Your doublespeak is obvious. Fix your own problems before worrying about the USA.

punked · August 20, 2009

But doing nothing has been an option, and still is. Your doublespeak is obvious. Fix your own problems before worrying about the USA.

I can do whatever I want. Doing nothing was an option for such a long time but with 1 person in the US declaring bankruptcy every 30 becuase of Health Care it has become as much an economic problem as anything else. Doing nothing is no longer an option.

bush_cheney2004 · August 20, 2009

I can do whatever I want. Doing nothing was an option for such a long time but with 1 person in the US declaring bankruptcy every 30 becuase of Health Care it has become as much an economic problem as anything else. Doing nothing is no longer an option.

You can't force Commie Care down our throats.....but we sure can have some fun.

At least you now admit it's about the money, not health care. LOL!

Edited August 20, 2009 by bush_cheney2004

punked · August 20, 2009

You can't force Commie Care down our throats.....but we sure can have some fun.
At least you now admit it's about the money, not health care. LOL!

The thing it is about America and Americans. The scary thing is for the Republicans is once it happens there is no going back, it has been true of any country. Doing nothing is not an option.

Shady · August 20, 2009

From being uninsured shady. They die becuase they don't seek the care they need. They die becuase they have to ration care and food or heat. They die becuase of the system Shady. Doing nothing is not an Option.

How many people die every year in Canada, while on a waiting list? Doing nothing is not an option. We need reform in Canada.

bush_cheney2004 · August 20, 2009

How many people die every year in Canada, while on a waiting list? Doing nothing is not an option. We need reform in Canada.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

punked · August 20, 2009

How many people die every year in Canada, while on a waiting list? Doing nothing is not an option. We need reform in Canada.

Tell me Shady give me a number as I have given you. Come on I will wait for it. I think we can agree reform does need to happen starting with the government putting up the money they promised. Doing nothing is not an option Shady.