jdobbin Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/stor...626?hub=QPeriod Prime Minister Stephen Harper suggests his party's recent ad campaign that included controversial attacks against Liberal leader Michael Ignatieff may have done Canadians a favour.In an interview with CTV News in Halifax, the prime minister told CTV Atlantic's Steve Murphy that the ads help convince the Liberals not to trigger a summer election, and allowed his Conservative minority government a few months of breathing space. Harper truly believes that negative ads are the way to go. However, he won't say if he personally believes his own ad's messages. I expect we will see more negative ads sooner than later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borg Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 I consider them "Truth Ads" If there was no truth to them, the libs would have pulled them through the legal process We need more truth and less window dressing Borh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdobbin Posted June 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 I consider them "Truth Ads"If there was no truth to them, the libs would have pulled them through the legal process We need more truth and less window dressing Well, I suppose the truth ads can go both ways. And that can get down to right nasty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borg Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Well, I suppose the truth ads can go both ways. And that can get down to right nasty. Well the option is there - let's see it Borg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 They're not 'truth' ads Borg come on man. If anything, they're akin to the anti-Harper ads run by Martin's campaign. They'll basically say anything bad they can about Ignatieff that they either have some snippit of support for or that at least the Liberals can't disprove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Well, I suppose the truth ads can go both ways.. Yep, and they have gone both ways. Liberals are more apt to complain about them now, because they're on the losing end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remiel Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Sounds like an implicit admission of guilt to me. The Lesser Evil, anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Sounds like an implicit admission of guilt to me. The Lesser Evil, anyone? I would love to see an add about the "lesser evil" I mean that is the scary thing about Iggy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borg Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 They're not 'truth' ads Borg come on man.If anything, they're akin to the anti-Harper ads run by Martin's campaign. They'll basically say anything bad they can about Ignatieff that they either have some snippit of support for or that at least the Liberals can't disprove. If they were not truthful the libs would have had them pulled Trust me the libs would have loved to do this - but they were indeed factual Therefore they were unable to attack the ads in any manner - they had to sit there and take it - I for one quite enjoyed it. Iggy can go home tomorrow - he is a US citizen in my mind and he indeed called himself an American during one of his speeches below the 49'th He is only here as an entitled and wealthy person who wants a little power and glory - if he loses - he will simply go south to his home and stay there - we can only hope. No one will miss him So might as well call them what they are - TRUTH ADS Borg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdobbin Posted June 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Well the option is there - let's see it I think we can start with the largest deficit in Canadian history is a Conservative party deficit. Own it. Take responsibility for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdobbin Posted June 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Yep, and they have gone both ways. Liberals are more apt to complain about them now, because they're on the losing end. I think repeated minorities show no one is really winning. You happy with a minority? You think the right negative ad campaign will put you over the top? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdobbin Posted June 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 No one will miss him And the ads inspire people to vote for Harper now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borg Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 (edited) I think we can start with the largest deficit in Canadian history is a Conservative party deficit. Own it. Take responsibility for it. Nope not my problem - I am not hurting - in fact I am quite well off thanks to a small rented store about 25 years ago - and I put a great deal of my own time and money into it - but my family were the geniuses - so we all share in real wealth - much of which is no longer in canada because we were afraid we would lose it - socialist countries always take your money and never kiss you when they f**k you. I do not believe for an instant any government could have prevented this deficit - if you were to be honest you would agree - the size is irrelevent - it will come back to black - it always does Trudeau - that commie SOB started the debt spiral Today it is bad - in a few years it will be better It WILL get better - no need to be negative - in fact there are some real opportunities out there right now and I just asked my family to meet on one of them - I will know their thoughts tomorrow - we go as a family or I go independent - either way I think it will happen - not bad for a simple soldier So - if the libs have the cash tell them to hit the trail with their own truth ads - we will see how it all comes out in the wash Either way my family and I will win and that is really all I care about - I owe no allegance to canada other than my oath which I will not break for three more years - and I WILL keep it until then - then I owe them nothing Borg Edited June 26, 2009 by Borg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borg Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 And the ads inspire people to vote for Harper now? I really do not care Borg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry J. Fortin Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 I think repeated minorities show no one is really winning. You happy with a minority? You think the right negative ad campaign will put you over the top? The attack adds, or truth adds, call them what you will, formed a carefully crafted campaign against Iggy. Iggy appears to have been fooled into acting in a manner the Prime Minister wants. It remains to be seem whether or not Iggy is smart enough to take the PM's job away from him. The Liberals had the momentum, it now appears that approval is stalled to say the least. The summer must be filled with Liberal propaganda in order to take advantage of the coming bump when the inevitable failure to come to terms with EI enhancement becomes public at the beginning of the next session of the House of Commons. The slow dispersal of stimulus funds will cause the Harper government much grief. International authorities are now talking about winding down stimulus efforts world wide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borg Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 (edited) I think repeated minorities show no one is really winning. You happy with a minority? You think the right negative ad campaign will put you over the top? Actually I like a minority government Provides opportiunity galore for those who will take a little risk. Hint: Never put more than 30% up against high risk investments and always have at least 50% provide a solid income to counter any losses - live by this and you will do well. You can play with the other 20% with no fear if you do this. Be sure the "risk property" assets can be broken down and sold off with no final loss if the business fails and you will have a winner. I like the break down to guarantee a small profit but I will go with "even" if income from the business looks promising. Keep those minority governments coming folks Borg Edited June 26, 2009 by Borg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdobbin Posted June 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 I really do not care Which is why I think the right is more interested in attacking than governing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 I think repeated minorities show no one is really winning. Actually, no. It shows that the Conservatives are winning. Winning is winning. Whether it's by a minority or by a majority. What it does really show is that the Liberals are losing. And that's why they're complaining now. You think the right negative ad campaign will put you over the top? It might. It has for the Liberals in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borg Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Which is why I think the right is more interested in attacking than governing. And what makes you think I am the one to judge the entire right by? If the libs have dirt (attack equivalent to keep you happy) - then tell them to bring it out in the open - in fact they are more crooked than the others combined - and the NDP are just a bunch of idiots. So I look after the canadian requirements for another few years as I promised and then do as I see fit - I will then take a $50K pension (indexed immediately) with me - yeah I think it is great! Tired of responding to your one liners - you are boring me with your weak responses - I will step out of this one now Cheers Borg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Bandelot Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 If thats what the intentions of the attack ads were according to Harper, it seems to have worked well in his favour. I'm no fan of his, or any of them to be truthful but I think we should know about who is in the leadership, what they've been doing and why they want to be the leader. I have no admiration for this Ignatieff guy. He even undermined his own leader Dion with his snickering and guffawing at Conservative jabs while Dion was leader. The attack ads are not controversial to me, if they are telling the truth. I say bring back Paul Martin. Leadership is about style. But since he won't come back, they should have went with LeBlanc. He would have the charisma, and negative attack ads on him would not look well for the conservatives. Choosing Ignatieff is yet another blunder on the part of the Liberal caucus that they will regret. Far too easy to make him look bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Actually, no. It shows that the Conservatives are winning. Actually, with 32%, the Liberals could beat the Conservatives at 34% given the way that the support base breaks down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 (edited) Actually, with 32%, the Liberals could beat the Conservatives at 34% given the way that the support base breaks down. Not with the Bloc sitting at 45% in PQ Edited June 26, 2009 by punked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 I must have missed something, I haven't seen that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 (edited) I must have missed something, I haven't seen that. Angus reid poll from three days ago. They are polling much better then they did in the last election. Quebec does not want a right wing prime minster which Iggy is even the NDP is up. Liberals too but not by what they need to win the election. http://www.angusreidstrategies.com/uploads...4_Political.pdf Edited June 26, 2009 by punked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 I think that the problem for Ignatieff in Quebec lies with the fact that he is letting Harper have his way too much. Quebecers don't like harper, and right now Ignatieff is looking like Harper. In the fall, he will have to set himself apart and start voting against the government, or he's going to run into trouble. By the same token, if the Bloc starts to prop up the Conservatives, I would submit that they too will suffer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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