pallywood

[dub]

check out the little actor kids at 1:30. especially that girl that won't stop talking.

pfft.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwCTZsK_qEc

[DogOnPorch]

check out the little actor kids at 1:30. especially that girl that won't stop talking.

pfft.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwCTZsK_qEc

Here's a fav of mine. Founder of the "Palestinian Cause" meets his hero.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSUEx1cKUlg

[dub]

look at this actor and production.

they even went as far as getting an israeli tv station involved. must have been another one of those lefty israeli broadcasters.

TOTALLY fake.

i laugh at you pallywood!

[KrustyKidd]

look at this actor and production.

they even went as far as getting an israeli tv station involved. must have been another one of those lefty israeli broadcasters.

TOTALLY fake.

i laugh at you pallywood!

Time for the Palestinians to stop their violence at Israel and begin to work towards actual peace and recognition that Israel is a state and has a right to exist. They can start by electing and supporting a unified government that realizes that and punishing those who enact actions against Israel. They can then move towards non villification of Israel through their media.

Until they have a govenment such as that, a proven track record of trust and, there are no attacks then Israel will continue to protect themselves at the expense of the poor downtrodden Palestinians.

What can you do to support this peace Dub? Easy. Stop placing blame soley at the feet of Israel and push for an honest government and society in Palestine which wants peace based on cooperation and trust rather than attacking with hate.

Edited to add:

You are part of the problem Dub. Palestinians feel that the world supports their actions of deliberate violence against Israeli women and children and, feel that even if it results in actions such as the recent incursion into Gaza, the propaganda victory for the mindless westerners who hate Jews and Israel will continue to place pressure on Israel even at the expense of killing those whom they profess to love. By accepting deliberate violent insanity and simply critiquing the logical protective response, you continue to play the part they wish you to. Daily on this forum you never once say one stinking bad word about Hamas, yet, spew forth Jew hatered and attempt to portray them as the haters while not mentioning one bad word about those who deliberately attempt to kill women and children, even placing their own in deliberate danger as human shields as part and parcel of their policy.

Would you sacrifice your family under any circumstances Dub? Hamas does on a regular basis.

Edited June 27, 2009 by KrustyKidd

[DogOnPorch]

A great example of Pallywood (from 2008) was when Hamas created a fuel/electricity crisis in Gaza then held an emergency meeting re: the crisis in candlelight since there was apparently no juice. The meeting is shown in this picture. Can you spot the problem?

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z23/cnr...an20candles.jpg

Our press ate it up until someone pointed out the obvious...and even then, some still went with the story. Other news stories showed Arabs gathering in Gaza streets during the apparent blackout...but there were still some shops that hadn't got the message as their lights were blazing away during their candlelight vigil.

[jbg]

check out the little actor kids at 1:30. especially that girl that won't stop talking.

pfft.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwCTZsK_qEc

A few questions. If the conditions are so horrible why have they allowed their population to balloon in this manner? Why won't they stop fighting so that the Israelis and responsible leaders could work towards improving conditions?

If they make continuing war what do they expect their enemy to do? Roll over and die?

[KrustyKidd]

A few questions. If the conditions are so horrible why have they allowed their population to balloon in this manner? Why won't they stop fighting so that the Israelis and responsible leaders could work towards improving conditions?

If they make continuing war what do they expect their enemy to do? Roll over and die?

Dub can't answer those ones. Just like he can't tell and cite who supplied Saddam with his weapons. He aksi thinks that the Jews immediately refused UN Res 181 when it was the Arabs who did and the Jews actually adhered to it until they were attacked.

Let me know how it works out. It would be a nice to see Dub have a fact backed up for a change.

[DogOnPorch]

Sometimes it's fun to review...

Here's ABC New's coverage of the 1982 Lebanon/PLO War...in depth.

http://www.youtube.com/user/ponitora#play/...s/2/gPNuSbmSLOo

About 1 hour...facinating. Gotta love Geraldo.

Re: Iraqi Armed Forces circa Saddam Era (as per IISS).

http://www.cdi.org/terrorism/iraqiarmedforces.cfm

[dub]

A few questions. If the conditions are so horrible why have they allowed their population to balloon in this manner?

you think they should stop reproducing? i'm not sure what you're getting at.

Why won't they stop fighting so that the Israelis and responsible leaders could work towards improving conditions?

how are they fighting? the occupation and the annexation of land has been going on for 60+ years.

the rockets and the suicide attacks started less than 20 years ago.

do you expect the palestinian to just roll over and die while israel continues to steal more of their land?

there are no rockets or suicide attacks happening in the west bank right now. how do you excuse the expansion of the settlements there?

[dub]

here is more pallywood!

they've got a bunch of actors pretending to be settlers who are taunting, kicking and throwing rocks at palestinian children trying to go to school.

oh those pallys will go to any length:

[DogOnPorch]

the rockets and the suicide attacks started less than 20 years ago.

Arab terrorism goes back a lot further than 20 years.

[dub]

more pallywood. this time, the cbc is involved. no wonder.

look at the fake tears from the girl.

[jbg]

you think they should stop reproducing? i'm not sure what you're getting at.

I object to anyone having more children than they can afford to raise. What makes primitive and violent Arabs any different?

how are they fighting? the occupation and the annexation of land has been going on for 60+ years.

And the Israelis are about the only war victors to give back land that they have conquered, certainly in a defensive war.

the rockets and the suicide attacks started less than 20 years ago.

Senseless and vicious attacks such as the Olympic Massacre started a much longer time ago.

do you expect the palestinian to just roll over and die while israel continues to steal more of their land?there are no rockets or suicide attacks happening in the west bank right now. how do you excuse the expansion of the settlements there?

Maybe the Arabs should have taken what the Israelis offered in 1948 and just lived in peace.

[dub]

I object to anyone having more children than they can afford to raise. What makes primitive and violent Arabs any different?

for a jewish person who cries racism all the time, you're quite racist.

And the Israelis are about the only war victors to give back land that they have conquered, certainly in a defensive war.

not really. but i won't get into your butchering of history.

it's illegal to steal land. it's quite simple. but you're okay with israel breaking international law.

Senseless and vicious attacks such as the Olympic Massacre started a much longer time ago.

lets pretend that there hasn't been multiple senseless attacks by israel on palestinians.

who cares about munich? i thought you were talking about suicide attacks and rockets. does the munich attack excuse the systematic land annexation and illegal settlements on land that doesn't belong to israel?

Maybe the Arabs should have taken what the Israelis offered in 1948 and just lived in peace.

israelis didn't offer any land. israel has never accepted the partitioned border lines. they've never accepted any border line.

is this what happens when you have to deal with facts that show israel is not interested in allowing self determination and a palestinian state?

the zionist regime is a thief.

[dub]

all pallywood, all the time.

who knows what could have happened if they had allowed the child in.

plus, he's not jewish.

[DogOnPorch]

all pallywood, all the time.

who knows what could have happened if they had allowed the child in.

plus, he's not jewish.

Naturally you and al-Jazeera would find Israel rather than Hamas to blame re: the death of this child. Meanwhile, it seems at least some children from Gaza are getting their needed surgery.

Israel also has a program called : "Save A Child's Heart" which you fail to mention.

http://www.saveachildsheart.org/

While you're busy finding anti-Semitic stories to relay, can you find me the link for an Arab/Muslim country that has a similar program re: Jewish children? Thanks...

[jbg]

for a jewish person who cries racism all the time, you're quite racist.

In fact, I very rarely cry "racism". I have a problem with people such as Quebec separatists and certain Arabs who play the "victim card" rather than going to work productively. No one can say that most Jews do not work.

not really. but i won't get into your butchering of history....it's illegal to steal land. it's quite simple. but you're okay with israel breaking international law.

There are some, but not many examples of victors returning land. The War of 1812 was pretty much a draw so both sides returned to pre-belligerance lines. After WW II the Democracies partially left areas they had overrun during the war. Thus, Israel's return of land to Egypt (and Syria) marks rare examples of victors returning the spoils of victory.

lets pretend that there hasn't been multiple senseless attacks by israel on palestinians.

Which ones? How many victims? How often?

who cares about munich? i thought you were talking about suicide attacks and rockets. does the munich attack excuse the systematic land annexation and illegal settlements on land that doesn't belong to israel?

You don't since it makes the Arabs look bad.

israelis didn't offer any land. israel has never accepted the partitioned border lines. they've never accepted any border line.

They did. The Arabs didn't.

is this what happens when you have to deal with facts that show israel is not interested in allowing self determination and a palestinian state?

To what end? Which dictator gets to determine?

the zionist regime is a thief.

Name-calling.

[dub]

Israel also has a program called : "Save A Child's Heart" which you fail to mention.

http://www.saveachildsheart.org/

it's too bad that the government has nothing to do with that organization. that's a non-governmental organization and there are many other amazing israeli organizations and israeli people. you'd be surprised how many israelis are against their government's policies and actions towards the palestinians.

here are some more:

http://www.btselem.org

http://www.seruv.org.il/english/default.asp

http://www.gisha.org/

http://www.batshalom.org

http://www.adalah.org/eng/index.php

http://www.gush-shalom.org

http://www.icahd.org

http://www.machsomwatch.org

http://www.phr.org.il/phr/

http://rhr.israel.net

http://refusersolidarity.org

www.whoprofits.org

http://www.yesh-din.org/site/index.php?pag...lang=en&id=

http://www.yeshgvul.org/index_e.asp

it's too bad the israeli government is controlled by religious zealots and zionists who hardly ever see eye to eye with these organizations.

[DogOnPorch]

it's too bad that the government has nothing to do with that organization.

Was it supposed to? As far as I recall, most politicians do not conduct heart surgery. Would you prefer they start?

that's a non-governmental organization and there are many other amazing israeli organizations and israeli people. you'd be surprised how many israelis are against their government's policies and actions towards the palestinians.

So now Israelis are amazing people as long as they hate their government? Plus...why would I be surprised that opinions against the government would be allowed in a parlimentary democracy like Israel? I know they don't do it like in Iran where they shoot the opposition in the streets...or the Palestinian Authority where they kill you for selling land to Jews...but there's always hope ...eh?

[ironstone]

for a jewish person who cries racism all the time, you're quite racist.

not really. but i won't get into your butchering of history.

it's illegal to steal land. it's quite simple. but you're okay with israel breaking international law.

lets pretend that there hasn't been multiple senseless attacks by israel on palestinians.

who cares about munich? i thought you were talking about suicide attacks and rockets. does the munich attack excuse the systematic land annexation and illegal settlements on land that doesn't belong to israel?

israelis didn't offer any land. israel has never accepted the partitioned border lines. they've never accepted any border line.

is this what happens when you have to deal with facts that show israel is not interested in allowing self determination and a palestinian state?

the zionist regime is a thief.

Can you explain exactly what is racist in the statement by jbq?And by the way,there have not been "multiple senseless attacks" by Israel against the Palestinians,you have it backwards.

[KrustyKidd]

Dub

israel has never accepted the partitioned border lines. they've never accepted any border line.

They did in 1947 to 1948. March 14 was when the Arabs attacked. Six nations to be exact, all intent on killing every last Jew. At that time, Palestinians were free to live alongside the Jews on their portion of the land that was voted and accepted by the UN. They chose not to and, instead, continued, to this day to make war or, at the very least, to not stop those who make war on Israel.

In fact, they even have convinced mindless western morons to hate Jews and Israel as well as to convolute history. Amazing that some idiots can just gloss over history to form a bigoted opinion and then from that, form an actual history to attempt to catapult their hatred to others.

[dub]

Dub

They did in 1947 to 1948. March 14 was when the Arabs attacked. Six nations to be exact, all intent on killing every last Jew. At that time, Palestinians were free to live alongside the Jews on their portion of the land that was voted and accepted by the UN. They chose not to and, instead, continued, to this day to make war or, at the very least, to not stop those who make war on Israel.

In fact, they even have convinced mindless western morons to hate Jews and Israel as well as to convolute history. Amazing that some idiots can just gloss over history to form a bigoted opinion and then from that, form an actual history to attempt to catapult their hatred to others.

israel has violated numerous resolutions including resolution 181. resolutions that were created by the UN. the very same UN that created israel.

i guess it's your right to be selective about when the UN matters and when it doesn't.

[dub]

palleeeWOOD.

haha. as if some palestinians live in this condition. check out this hilarious production!

all lies people! everything is made up!

[DogOnPorch]

One of the best examples of our media working for Pallywood was when AP claimed Tuvia Grossman was a Palestinian. Many papers and media outlets ran with the story claiming Israeli police beat a Palestinian on the Temple Mount. Turned out it was an American Jew who had been beaten severly by an Arab mob for wandering into the wrong neighborhood (student/tourist). Israeli police had to drive the mob off of his bloody body before they killed him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuvia_Grossman

Even after the incident was proven to be the opposite of what was reported, many pro-Palestinian support groups used the photo as an example of Israeli violence against Arabs. The photo shows a very bloody Grossman with a very angry looking Israeli soldier standing over him with a trunchon. Click here for examples from Google.

This photo was one of the sparks that started the 2nd Infitada.

This type of event is apparently fairly common...Arab mobs attacking singled-out lone Jews. Here's one of a IDF soldier and his father being attacked by rock throwing thugs for driving down the wrong street.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwl6_n69z74

Edited July 1, 2009 by DogOnPorch

[KrustyKidd]

israel has violated numerous resolutions including resolution 181.

Israel lived within the borders prescribed by 181 until attacked by six Arab countries who didn't even give Resolution 181 a second thought, bent on killing every last one of them (women and children included). With the immediate death of their civilization and people at stake, they fought back, and continue to hold that ground until there is a serious government in place with a serious intent to make peace with them. I doubt that any resolution they have violated compares remotely to having six nations on your doorstep with the self described intent of exterminating you and your people.