benny Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 (edited) Those that seek to punish homo-sexuals might just as well forget it! Have you ever seen an aging gay pair - where one in in failing health and the other barely holding on - no kids - no wives - and in the end no friends because they are no longer attractive. Time will not only punish homo-sexuals but will also destroy nasty hetor-sexuals - so it's a waste of time playing god...leave them alone and mind your own buisness. Aging gay couples want to marry more than other couples to get the spousal benefits of workers' pension plans. Edited June 8, 2009 by benny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Aging gay couples want to marry more than other couples to get the spousal benefits of workers' pension plans. I have no problem with protecting and supporting those in a weakened state...this should be kept basic - and NOT pushed into the political or theocratic arena...It seems that straights are more into granting hetro-sexual marrage to homo-sexuals...there is something obscenly vacarious about people who are not gay fighting for gay rights - even gays are tired of these intruders and opportunists...as your average gay man if he wants young people to be gay - he will say - he does not wish this upon anyone....ask your stupified liberal bleach haired suburban mother -- if she wants the males in her family to be gay - they don't have a problem with it because the feel that gayification of males gives THEM a more powerful position...it's irksome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 I have no problem with protecting and supporting those in a weakened state...this should be kept basic - and NOT pushed into the political or theocratic arena...It seems that straights are more into granting hetro-sexual marrage to homo-sexuals...there is something obscenly vacarious about people who are not gay fighting for gay rights - even gays are tired of these intruders and opportunists...as your average gay man if he wants young people to be gay - he will say - he does not wish this upon anyone....ask your stupified liberal bleach haired suburban mother -- if she wants the males in her family to be gay - they don't have a problem with it because the feel that gayification of males gives THEM a more powerful position...it's irksome. Correction "ask your average man" - I'm not gay "not that there is anything wrong with it" Benny the point here is civilty - gays are for the most part considered a vulnerable group - similar to the aged - are we to deny the old their pensions? WAIT A SEC>>. they are in the process of screwing thousands for their pensions.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIP Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Sorry, I have to call BS on this one. In nature there is murder, so why is that particular behavior so frowned upon? Also, eating your young occurs in nature, so why don't we put this 'homosexuals in nature" argument out to pasture.We are not animals. By that standard I could call BS on virtually everything you post here, if I had the time -- since you don't bother fact-checking your opinions before posting them! I thought I made it clear that I was not arguing that homosexuality has to be accepted because it is in nature, but rather that its existence takes away that "unnatural" argument used by the religious to claim that there are no natural biological factors behind homosexual behaviour. The claim made by your Bible and the inerrantists you get your beliefs from, is the ridiculous, unsupported with evidence claim, that they are "choosing" to do what is unnatural -- "leaving the natural use of the woman"...yadayadayada.... this strange notion of choosing to be a homosexual for lustful reasons leads many Bible critics to assume that St. Paul or Apostle Paul was a closeted homosexual, torn by his own homosexual inclinations, and writes insane comments in Romans ch.! and I Corinthians 7 of going gay because of lack of self-control and being tempted into such sin by Satan. This sort of narrative makes no sense when applied to the majority of men who are not sexually aroused by same-sex behaviour; only if the writer is a self-hating homosexual, a 2000 year old Ted Haggard, do these points about giving in to unnatural lusts make any sense at all! The real world evidence for the causes of homosexual and bisexual behaviour are connected to genetic, hormonal and even differences in brain development One, or all of these triggers have to be present before someone is going to have the necessary same-sex attractions to become bisexual or homosexual. As for murder -- sure, commandment #6 says "thou shalt not kill," but there are exceptions to that law given from on high -- for example: it's okay to kill witches, homosexuals, fortune-tellers, fornicators, adulterers, entire races of people (the sons of Amalek), blasphemers, violators of the sabbath, other tribes living in the Promised Land, and murderers of course -- which by this standard, only applies to unlawful killing of members of society. The Bible provides lots of loopholes to commit divine-sanctioned murder, and that doesn't even include all of the murder committed by this bloodthirsty god who drowns entire worlds when his creation displeases him. There are likely many species of animals that are more moral than the majority of humans! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Correction "ask your average man" - I'm not gay "not that there is anything wrong with it" Benny the point here is civilty - gays are for the most part considered a vulnerable group - similar to the aged - are we to deny the old their pensions? WAIT A SEC>>. they are in the process of screwing thousands for their pensions.. Pension money should go to true dependents i.e. those adults who raise children to go through the Oedipus complex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Pension money should go to true dependents i.e. those adults who raise children to go through the Oedipus complex. You just revealed your age - benny - your just a kid - what the hell are you talking about - it's not even cryptic...and you are getting to a point that you are not worth my time..pick it up benny or shut up - give me some brain power - some spirit - you cheap chicken terd. How can I give you a retort if you are not making sense - jezzz I thought I had problems focusing..! As far a Oedipus...that's primary school reading ...not impressed benny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 You just revealed your age - benny - your just a kid - what the hell are you talking about - it's not even cryptic...and you are getting to a point that you are not worth my time..pick it up benny or shut up - give me some brain power - some spirit - you cheap chicken terd. How can I give you a retort if you are not making sense - jezzz I thought I had problems focusing..! As far a Oedipus...that's primary school reading ...not impressed benny. To teach very important aspect of children's sexual identity development, Freud and all other psychoanalysts used Oedipus-the-king, a very important and complex classic Tragedy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 To teach very important aspect of children's sexual identity development, Freud and all other psychoanalysts used Oedipus-the-king, a very important and complex classic Tragedy. You are as institutionalized as a grade three drop out that has spent most if not all of their adult life in prison. HOW - can anyone have the gaul to "teach aspects of children's sexual indentity - they you clumseley insert DEVELOPEMENT... Boy you are a peice of work. Let me get old school on you - YOU and others like you should concentrate on YOUR own sexual idenity and development and leave the children alone - people have been sexual for over a million years - and suddenly you go to school - learn a few theorys and believe that you can now sexually interfere with our young? Sex is none of your buisness unless it is your own..concentrate on your own sex life and "identity" .......as they say "teacher leave the kids alone" - it's preverse how educators are so interested in sex - that other people might be having or may have in the future - social engineering in these respects shows a sexual dysfuction on the part of the educators..that you so agree with -------------------------------get a life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 You are as institutionalized as a grade three drop out that has spent most if not all of their adult life in prison. HOW - can anyone have the gaul to "teach aspects of children's sexual indentity - they you clumseley insert DEVELOPEMENT... Boy you are a peice of work. Let me get old school on you - YOU and others like you should concentrate on YOUR own sexual idenity and development and leave the children alone - people have been sexual for over a million years - and suddenly you go to school - learn a few theorys and believe that you can now sexually interfere with our young? Sex is none of your buisness unless it is your own..concentrate on your own sex life and "identity" .......as they say "teacher leave the kids alone" - it's preverse how educators are so interested in sex - that other people might be having or may have in the future - social engineering in these respects shows a sexual dysfuction on the part of the educators..that you so agree with -------------------------------get a life. Children adoption policy is our common responsibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 (edited) That you can't see such a simple point reflects poorly on your reading comprehension. I was merely pointing out that the homosexual behavior in nature argument is not a trustworthy one, since many behaviors in nature are not acceptable. The fact that murder exists in nature doesn't make it any less wrong....but it does make it natural. The fact that homosexuality exists in nature doesn't make it more wrong...it makes it natural. Both things are natural, but one is bad and one is none of your business. Edited June 8, 2009 by Smallc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 The fact that murder exists in nature doesn't make it any less wrong....but it does make it natural. The fact that homosexuality exists in nature doesn't make it more wrong...it makes it natural. Both things are natural, but one is bad and one is non of your business. Allowing gay couples to marry and adopt children are public matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpio Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Allowing gay couples to marry and adopt children are public matters. How that does that affect you personally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 How that does that affect you personally? I wrote public matters, not personal matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpio Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 I wrote public matters, not personal matters. Let me rephrase - what business is it of yours or the public? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Let me rephrase - what business is it of yours or the public? Bout time we got on with buisness and stopped looking in the neighbours window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Let me rephrase - what business is it of yours or the public? Abandoned/neglected children means society's future is jeopardized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Do you also linger too long in public washrooms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Do you also linger too long in public washrooms? Can I tap your foot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Can I tap your foot? Recycle your waste elsewhere please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre Rider Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 It would be more precise to say that bisexuality occurs in nature in stressful circumstances. Within Chimpanzee populations along with Dolphin population, male and female bi-sexual behaviour is a readily observed and normal everyday occurrence. No stress factors in play, apart from the desire to bond within the group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre Rider Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 I agree. There is something different about us and I don't know why some confuse us as being mere animals.Perhaps for now we just need to recognize that it does exist until we better understand we are not animals - Although science and politics seems to be dragging us in the opposite direction. We fit all the established biological criteria of being "animals".....to think otherwise is to place us upon a pedestal we do not deserve. (freely pinch from another site) [1] Bacteria - prokaryotic, single-celled organisms. We're not prokaryotic, so we're not bacteria. [2] Protista - eukaryotic, single-celled organisms. We're multicellular, so we're not protists. [3] Fungi - we are motile, we do not have a chitin cell wall, and we do not reproduce by spores, so we're not fungi. [4] Plantae - we are motile, we do not have a cellulose cell wall, and we do not obtain our energy by photosymthesis, so we're not plants. [5] Animalia - we are motile, and we are consumers, digesting food internally. So we are animals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted June 9, 2009 Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 Sorry, I have to call BS on this one. In nature there is murder, so why is that particular behavior so frowned upon? Also, eating your young occurs in nature, so why don't we put this 'homosexuals in nature" argument out to pasture.We are not animals. Wow, we have come full circle in this thread already? Whether or not you think we are animals, Sabre, nature is not and should not be a template for what constitutes healthy behavior. I'll add a couple more nuggets for you, in nature, dogs eat their own vomit. Also in nature, the weak and young get killed off. I notice that we frown upon that behavior in our societies, how about you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerrySeinfeld Posted June 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 Within Chimpanzee populations along with Dolphin population, male and female bi-sexual behaviour is a readily observed and normal everyday occurrence. No stress factors in play, apart from the desire to bond within the group. So what. I once saw a chimpanzee poo into his hand then eat it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted June 9, 2009 Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 Within Chimpanzee populations along with Dolphin population, male and female bi-sexual behaviour is a readily observed and normal everyday occurrence. No stress factors in play, apart from the desire to bond within the group. Stress is a daily experience in hierarchical societies like societies in which live most primate species. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted June 9, 2009 Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 Stress is a daily experience in hierarchical societies like societies in which live most primate species. Ask Travis the Chimp if he was under stress living in a Stamford suburban house (link). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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