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Should we deport immigrants who support terrorism?


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I confess that after witnessing the demonstrations by Tamils over the past week I'm reminded of a movie from the seventies called Soylent Green. In the movie, large garbage trucks with big scoops in front went into crowds of demonstrators, scooped them up by the dozens, and dumped them into the back of the garbage truck like refuse. I was thinking - hey, we could use some of those here. Only, rather than carting them back to a factory for processing, they ought to be driven to the airport for outshipment back to their homelands.

Tamil Support for Terrorism out in the Open

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Should we deport immigrants who support terrorism?

One person's terrorist is another's freedom fighter, so this question is poorly worded. Its terms are too subjective. We should simply arrest people who perpetrate or assist in the perpetration of violence on others.

I see no difference between a person who drives a suicide bomber to their destination or a super-power that supports the dictatorships that provoke them.

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One person's terrorist is another's freedom fighter,

No, in fact, there is a fairly tight list of terrorist groups which most of the world agrees upon. I believe Canada even has a list, right? Therefore, the question is quite appropriate, irrespective of the elastic morality of people who reserve most of their disapproval for the evil Americans and capitalists.

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Ya ... cuts both ways, eh? ;)

got it now.

:lol:

Smart lad, nice to see flippant sarcasm isn't lost on everyone.

Basically when we here in North America speak of "terrorist", we really mean Arabs or Muslims or other "Darkies" and conveniently forget that terrorism and terrorist come in all shapes, sizes, colours and religions. There's the Catholic IRA and their Protestant opposites in Eire and Northern Ireland, the Basques in Spain, the various groups in the former Yugoslavia, the Jewish Zionist Groups of the past and our own homegrown groups. Sadly though, we tend only to focus on Islamic Terrorist.

I knew a second generation Irish Canadian who took great pride in donating a hundred dollars each year to the IRA, but called for the heads of Muslims after 911.......he couldn't see his own hypocrisy. :(

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Smart lad, nice to see flippant sarcasm isn't lost on everyone.

Basically when we here in North America speak of "terrorist", we really mean Arabs or Muslims or other "Darkies" and conveniently forget that terrorism and terrorist come in all shapes, sizes, colours and religions. There's the Catholic IRA and their Protestant opposites in Eire and Northern Ireland, the Basques in Spain, the various groups in the former Yugoslavia, the Jewish Zionist Groups of the past and our own homegrown groups. Sadly though, we tend only to focus on Islamic Terrorist.

I knew a second generation Irish Canadian who took great pride in donating a hundred dollars each year to the IRA, but called for the heads of Muslims after 911.......he couldn't see his own hypocrisy. :(

Your argument is very well presented and formulated!

Terrorists come in all size and shapes. It only depends on the definition and from whose perspective. It can resembles any terrorist groups around the world whether it's Meir Kahane and the Jewish Defense League or Irgun group, and Yitzhak Shamir (Stern Gang) or possibly Hammas.

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Sadly though, we tend only to focus on Islamic Terrorist.

Gee...I wonder why?

Basically when we here in North America speak of "terrorist", we really mean Arabs or Muslims or other "Darkies" and conveniently forget that terrorism and terrorist come in all shapes, sizes, colours and religions. There's the Catholic IRA and their Protestant opposites in Eire and Northern Ireland, the Basques in Spain, the various groups in the former Yugoslavia, the Jewish Zionist Groups of the past and our own homegrown groups. Sadly though, we tend only to focus on Islamic Terrorist.

Hardly. Anyone in their 40s or older remembers the Provos...The Red Army Faction...Baader-Meinhof...the PLO...the FLQ (wimps).

Meir Kahane was the subject/target of a terrorist attack...trivia.

...or possibly Hammas(sic).

They're more Nazis than terrorists despite their terrorist activities.

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Never heard of the IRA? Got most of its funding from Canadian and American Irish.........so lets boot out the lot just to be safe eh?

The amount of funding the IRA got from expatriates was always actually quite small. But I'm not surprised you are unacquainted with the facts.

Most Canadian and American Irish were not particularly supportive of the IRA or its tactics. However much they might sympathize with the treatment of Irish Catholics by the Protestant majority of the time Canadians rarely had a lot of sympathy for terrorist tactics even in the old days, when that generally meant warning the police before a bomb was going to go off. They would certainly never have sympathized with people who send suicide bombers into packed markets, kidnap children and beat them into becoming child soldiers, and commit mass rape and mass murder as political tools. The Tamil Tigers are also known for murdering any Tamil leaders who show a moderate streak, insisting that they and only they can speak for Tamils.

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Basically when we here in North America speak of "terrorist", we really mean Arabs or Muslims or other "Darkies" and conveniently forget that terrorism and terrorist come in all shapes, sizes, colours and religions. There's the Catholic IRA and their Protestant opposites in Eire and Northern Ireland, the Basques in Spain, the various groups in the former Yugoslavia, the Jewish Zionist Groups of the past and our own homegrown groups. Sadly though, we tend only to focus on Islamic Terrorist.

I knew a second generation Irish Canadian who took great pride in donating a hundred dollars each year to the IRA, but called for the heads of Muslims after 911.......he couldn't see his own hypocrisy. :(

Nor, in all likelihood, do you see yours.

I expected this kind of post. It's so utterly dreary and predictable. Whenever anyone suggests we ought to disapprove of some kind of brutality in the world which involves "brown people", however horrific it is, someone will come on to defend that brutality - while of course, denying that's what they're doing.

This is called moral relativism, and it's a common tactic among the left, especially the politically correct zealots who will snear openly at anything American, and have no difficulty talking about the defects of American culture, but then be aghast if you criticize Islamic cultural traits. Whatever the topic; honour killing, terrorism, homophobia, terorrism, child abuse and rape, if you criticise "dark people" some PC fanatic will leap in to defend the practice - while denying he's doing it - and start trying to indict the west on some spurious, vaguely similar, but generally much lower level "crime".

This is the bizarre contradiction you see here, where people on the political Left will constantly defend rape, honour killing, terrorism et al, because "brown people" are doing it, and they cannot bring themselves to criticize brown people, nor allow anyone else to.

There have been some 12,000 terrorist incidents related to Islam since 911. Can you tell me how many such incidents were committed by the IRA or Basque separatists? I bet you don't even care. Do you know how often the IRA or the Red Brigades exploded nail bombs in the middle of packed crowds? How often they blew up pizza shops filled with teenagers? How often they pulled over buses and machine gunned everyone inside? How often they executed teenage girls for not wearing the proper symbols of their religion? How often they blew up entire airliners filled with people?

What the moral relativists like you don't seem to comprehend, and cannot for an instant accept, is that there is a difference between the terrorists we have had, and still have to a small degree in the West, and the terrorists of the Muslim world. The difference is an order of magnitude degree in brutality and violence. More people are killed by Islamic terrorists every year than have EVER been killed by western terrorism, going all the way back to the beginning of the IRA provos. When it comes to killing and brutality, the Tamil Tigers are the NHL while the IRA - they were maybe your local high school peewees.

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Argus,

What the moral relativists like you don't seem to comprehend, and cannot for an instant accept, is that there is a difference between the terrorists we have had, and still have to a small degree in the West, and the terrorists of the Muslim world. The difference is an order of magnitude degree in brutality and violence. More people are killed by Islamic terrorists every year than have EVER been killed by western terrorism, going all the way back to the beginning of the IRA provos. When it comes to killing and brutality, the Tamil Tigers are the NHL while the IRA - they were maybe your local high school peewees.

Firstly, give us a stat please on the Islamic terrorist point.

Secondly, we need to point out the IRA and issues like it in order to make it clear that terrorism comes in many forms. Your posts have thought behind them, but there are utter reactionaries out there who want to deport all Muslims because they just don`t like them.

How are you going to define "supporting terrorism" ? Protesting in support of a banned group is still freedom of speech.

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