g_bambino Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 I am in favour of totally scrapping the corrupt, discriminatory Charter for reasons I have previously posted. We're not discussing that. We're discussing this: I have always supported federal and provincial Bill of Rights. But I don't support them being enshrined in the Constitution... I've said already that, by the above statement, you're opposed to the very foundation of our constitution. That you keep side-stepping that point says much. Quote
g_bambino Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 Our rights are developed mainly form our aboriginal peoples... Bullshit. Quote
charter.rights Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 Bullshit. Actually that is between your ears.... Quote “Safeguarding the rights of others is the most noble and beautiful end of a human being.” Kahlil Gibran “Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.” Albert Einstein
g_bambino Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 Actually that is between your ears.... Yea, nice try. Quote
charter.rights Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 Yea, nice try. Can you dispute it or is it just your usual "head in the sand" "la la la la la...I'm not hearing youooooo" approach. Otherwise the origin of your "bullshit" become pretty clear. Quote “Safeguarding the rights of others is the most noble and beautiful end of a human being.” Kahlil Gibran “Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.” Albert Einstein
g_bambino Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 Can you dispute it [sic] The question is not whether or not I can dispute it, it's whether or not you can prove it. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 The question is not whether or not I can dispute it, it's whether or not you can prove it. Agreed. ---------------- It's a Daisy. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Oleg Bach Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 Agreed.---------------- It's a Daisy. Quote
charter.rights Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 The question is not whether or not I can dispute it, it's whether or not you can prove it. I've already stated my case. Quote “Safeguarding the rights of others is the most noble and beautiful end of a human being.” Kahlil Gibran “Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.” Albert Einstein
DogOnPorch Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 I could say the sky is purple. Thus it's a fact? Get real. ------------------------- Pogue mahone. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Oleg Bach Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 I could say the sky is purple. Thus it's a fact? Get real.------------------------- Pogue mahone. If a person is committed they will say "I believe" this or that - If they say "I think" this or that...then beware...Thinking something does not make it so - it is spectorish --- it is theoretical and rhetorical...I could think that JFK is going to step out of the grave and deliver flowers to Marylin Monroe - It's not going to happen....and the sky is not purple today - It's blue...that is a fact. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 (edited) If a person is committed they will say "I believe" this or that - If they say "I think" this or that...then beware...Thinking something does not make it so - it is spectorish --- it is theoretical and rhetorical...I could think that JFK is going to step out of the grave and deliver flowers to Marylin Monroe - It's not going to happen....and the sky is not purple today - It's blue...that is a fact. Whatever...charter is known for blurting out the outrageous in terms of native indian accomplishments. --------------------------------- It's a Daisy. Edited March 3, 2009 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
g_bambino Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 I've already stated my case. No, you stated some personal theories that have so far been backed up by zero fact. Quote
g_bambino Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 charter is known for blurting out the outrageous in terms of native indian accomplishments. True. And this one was so outlandish I couldn't help but call him on it. Quote
charter.rights Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 True. And this one was so outlandish I couldn't help but call him on it. Try again. If your argument against aboriginal influence is so concrete and secure then you should have no problem providing your point of view as to why it is not possible. I have already provided that the Charter of Rights and Freedoms are based on aboriginal roots given that they presented an egalitarian society upon first contact and the idea of peace, harmony and good government comes from their participatory democracy system. If you think you can counter that then fire away. However, your short one-liners are getting old and I sense a pattern or you inadequacies when it comes to tough arguments. There are lots of ideologies that we have adopted as Canadians that were borrowed from First Nations and incorporated into our social and philosophical state as Canadians . Quote “Safeguarding the rights of others is the most noble and beautiful end of a human being.” Kahlil Gibran “Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.” Albert Einstein
Oleg Bach Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 My mother inlaw - HATES ME....why is she not charged for a hate crime - I don't derserve the hate - and it has caused me great harm and distress...why is it that my mother in law can legally hate me as an individual but you are not allowed to hate a group ---- If this former Nations head - was to say this publically - I HATE THIS JEW...BUT NOT ALL OF THEM - would that be all right? I would assume so. Quote
g_bambino Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 I have already provided that the Charter of Rights and Freedoms are based on aboriginal roots given that they presented an egalitarian society upon first contact and the idea of peace, harmony and good government comes from their participatory democracy system. Again, more opinion, little fact. One doesn't need to be verbose to point that out. Quote
charter.rights Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 Again, more opinion, little fact. One doesn't need to be verbose to point that out. Coward. Afraid it will disturb your myths? Ya I thought so.... Quote “Safeguarding the rights of others is the most noble and beautiful end of a human being.” Kahlil Gibran “Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.” Albert Einstein
g_bambino Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 Coward. Ah, the last refuge of the defeated: personal insults. Each successive post from you just proves more and more firmly that you've not a shred of evidence to back up a single one of your ridiculous claims. You get caught out on this, and your reaction? Trash-talk and slander your opponent. Well done, indeed! Quote
M.Dancer Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 Ah, the last refuge of the defeated: personal insults. Each successive post from you just proves more and more firmly that you've not a shred of evidence to back up a single one of your ridiculous claims. You get caught out on this, and your reaction? Trash-talk and slander your opponent. Well done, indeed! Has he ever been able to provide a credible source for his pet wingnut theories? Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
charter.rights Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 Ah, the last refuge of the defeated: personal insults. Each successive post from you just proves more and more firmly that you've not a shred of evidence to back up a single one of your ridiculous claims. You get caught out on this, and your reaction? Trash-talk and slander your opponent. Well done, indeed! So in other words you aren't here to engage in meaningful discussion and you and your chia pet just like to follow people around and yell "bullshit". We do have a name for people like you, cupie.... Quote “Safeguarding the rights of others is the most noble and beautiful end of a human being.” Kahlil Gibran “Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.” Albert Einstein
M.Dancer Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 So in other words you aren't here to engage in meaningful discussion and you and your chia pet just like to follow people around and yell "bullshit".We do have a name for people like you, cupie.... There would be no pronouncements of bullshit if you could ...I don't know....post a credible link? On the otherhand.... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
g_bambino Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 So in other words you aren't here to engage in meaningful discussion... I'm not sure who would deem factless rambling and bad-mouthing as meaningful discussion to engage in. In order to actually see the development of a rational discourse you'd have to provide supporting evidence for your statements; you've been asked muliple times, say you've already obliged those requests, yet actually haven't. Now with your back against a wall and nothing to defend yourself, you turn to distractions like personal attacks and posturing. Perhaps you should try a different approach? Quote
g_bambino Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 (edited) Has he ever been able to provide a credible source for his pet wingnut theories? I've mostly only ever observed discussions that involved charter - and now I know why. But if he has ever provided sound sources, they've been few and far between. [copyedited] Edited March 3, 2009 by g_bambino Quote
jbg Posted March 3, 2009 Report Posted March 3, 2009 Whatever...charter is known for blurting out the outrageous in terms of native indian accomplishments. --------------------------------- It's a Daisy. Including discovering the wonderful effects of inhaled Super San Plomb? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
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