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Obama joined the church over 20 years ago not "some point in the ninties". If McCain had been going to a church with a white minister with similar views his political career would be over. So why is it ok for him to have a mentor who is anti semitic, racist and Marxist? When I looked on the Rabble website they support the Muslim/Arab pov, which I found interesting. So it seems socialists are against Israel and pro Arab, pro Muslim.

I find it interesting that socialists are anti-semitic because it was Jews would led the Revolution during Red Oktober in Russia. Killing the Czar and the royal family not to mention 100 million Christians. So I alwayas thought that the socialists and the Israelites to be on the same side. I learn something new everyday.

Don't look for consistency and honesty in those parts.
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I strongly doubt that Obama's views are based on Black Liberation theology, black nationalism, or any of the stuff Wright is yammering about in those clips. I don't think Obama has a secret plan to get revenge on Whitey once he's in the White House. Wright is a non-issue.

However, I am intrigued to hear discussion of Obama's associates called "gutless" and "ignorant" from the sort of Canadians who've offered the same sort of arguments over and over in regards to Conservative politicians in this country.

-k

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Obama joined the church over 20 years ago not "some point in the ninties". If McCain had been going to a church with a white minister with similar views his political career would be over.

If Obama joined 20 years ago (1988) or some time in the early 90's when he finished Harvard Law and moved to Chicago... the difference of a few years is irrelevant. The more compelling part of your response is the sentence about McCain. My post points out this is pretty much what McCain has done. After the 9/11 attacks, Robertson and Falwell unleashed their own version of "God damn America" by blaming Americans for unleashing the wrath of God. AFTER they made these statements, John McCain began palling around with them.

Personally, I find it less troubling and less an indicator of bad character for Obama to attend a church whose minister becomes more of a firebrand over time than McCain's deliberate attempts to pal around with Robertson and Falwell, people he knows have made such blatant ant-American statements. Remember? He called them agents of intolerance when he was being the real John McCain. Candidate John McCain is their buddy.

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I strongly doubt that Obama's views are based on Black Liberation theology, black nationalism, or any of the stuff Wright is yammering about in those clips. I don't think Obama has a secret plan to get revenge on Whitey once he's in the White House. Wright is a non-issue.

However, I am intrigued to hear discussion of Obama's associates called "gutless" and "ignorant" from the sort of Canadians who've offered the same sort of arguments over and over in regards to Conservative politicians in this country.

-k

Most reasonable people wouldn't think Obama has a secret plan to get revenge on whitey and that's not why his association with Wright is important. He was a member of that church for 20 years. Simple logic dictates that if you disagree with the hateful theology being spewed from the pulpit Sunday after Sunday, you would leave that church after a time. Since he didn't, he must be at least sympathetic to the theology. His excuse that he never heard any controversial sermons in 20 years is like saying, "I never inhaled". As soon as you say it, everyone around you starts smiling for some reason.

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Obama has been mentored by a racist, anti-semetic divisive black liberation theology by the Rev, Jeremiah Wright for 20 years... Obama has anti-semetic friends who has his counsel.

Obama has been so under the influence of anti-semites that he named a Jewish man who once served as a volunteer in the Israeli Defense Forces as his Chief of Staff. Let me guess... there's some inverted conspiracy here...?

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Obama has been mentored by a racist, anti-semetic divisive black liberation theology by the Rev, Jeremiah Wright for 20 years.

Obama has the support of terrorists around the world.

Obama has anti-semetic friends who has his counsel.

Obama has a lot of explaining to do.

Obama has rebuked Wright's anti-semetic views. All mentors have flaws. Obama recognizes Wright's flaw and hasn't let it influence him. Obama is definitely not racist.

What terrorists around the world support him?

Anti-semetic thing above.

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Obama has been so under the influence of anti-semites that he named a Jewish man who once served as a volunteer in the Israeli Defense Forces as his Chief of Staff. Let me guess... there's some inverted conspiracy here...?
Obviously I'm encouraged by this choice. You must realize that the Jews are an important part of the Democrats' support and ideological base, much the same way they are important in the LPC. The fact that Canada even has diplomatic ties with Israel after the anti-Semitic Trudeau's reign, and even after the Chretien/Martin reign of error illustrates the length that the Canadian liberals will go to to ensure that they hold Montreal's West Island and other largely Jewish ridings.

The Jews' importance far exceeds their numbers in the population because they are educated, articulate, and vote at almost double the rates of other groups.

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The Jews' importance far exceeds their numbers in the population because they are educated, articulate, and vote at almost double the rates of other groups.

Really? They are educated and articulate compared to whom? WASPs? Black people? Latinos?

I thought their importance far exceeded their numbers because they own Hollywood.

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Really? They are educated and articulate compared to whom? WASPs? Black people? Latinos?

I thought their importance far exceeded their numbers because they own Hollywood.

They may own Hollywood and are fine propogandists - but we own the banks.. To much conspiratorial stuff goes on about Jews - they do good work - and when all goes bad the deal is they take the fall for high ranking Anglos...Lucky they have Muslims to take the brunt...wonder when Eskimos will become the new scape goat - or shall I say scape seal..Not all Jews are rich and not all are educated. Like I said - they do the dirty work and are paid to take the blame. It has nothing to do with the religion - it has something to do with using a force that is highly tribal, loyal and orgainized and we are not good at those things. The nominal Christian is a harsh barbaric master.

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Really? They are educated and articulate compared to whom? WASPs? Black people? Latinos?

I thought their importance far exceeded their numbers because they own Hollywood.

Was that some kind of a Chretien-eze "gut reaction"? Where are you coming from?
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Chretien-eze? What's that?

Chretieneze? It's kind of like English, only different.

I come from Winnipeg. Where do you come from to suggest yours is a superior race?

I don't believe the Jews constitute a "race" by any conventional definition of the term.

I believe that statistics show that Jews, as a group, do on average have among the highest achievement in terms of academic success, university degrees and post-graduate degrees, and income. It is a stereotype that Jews have a culture obsessed with achievement and become doctors and lawyers and business owners, but there may be some truth behind the stereotype... and these are professions that people do tend to associate with "articulate" and "educated".

-k

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