M.Dancer Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 Then I invite you to marry a Sikh persons daughter or an Islamic girl. Yeah, thought not. Mexican? Greek? Italian? Sure no problem. That is the main difference between the two groups. The fundemental. Had I not be married I would taje you up on the invitation. I had a 10 year relationshio with an east indian girl. Nothing xenophobic about her or her family. Her parents are both GPs with specialties in urology, OBGYN and obstetrics in Truro.... One of my collegues here is sikh. He drives an Audi, owns a condo downtown, works on 3 lifstyle magazines and is also an actor appearing in TV shows like 21 Jump Street, Doc and in the Movie Hollywood Bollywood. He is engaged....not to a sikh.. So I think your problem is you don't have a clue. That is fundemental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikedavid00 Posted April 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 Had I not be married I would taje you up on the invitation. I had a 10 year relationshio with an east indian girl. Nothing xenophobic about her or her family.Her parents are both GPs with specialties in urology, OBGYN and obstetrics in Truro.... One of my collegues here is sikh. He drives an Audi, owns a condo downtown, works on 3 lifstyle magazines and is also an actor appearing in TV shows like 21 Jump Street, Doc and in the Movie Hollywood Bollywood. He is engaged....not to a sikh.. So I think your problem is you don't have a clue. That is fundemental. You are talking about immigrants that came here in the 1960's. The 'exceptions'. I'm talking about everyone else. The vast majority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 You are talking about immigrants that came here in the 1960's. The 'exceptions'. I'm talking about everyone else. The vast majority. the 70s ....the late 70s to be exact. You haven't a clue what the vast majority is like....not a clue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikedavid00 Posted April 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 the 70s ....the late 70s to be exact. You haven't a clue what the vast majority is like....not a clue Yes I do. I have more experience with these people probably more than anyone on this forum. The massive 1.3million person influx has been very recent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Doors Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 mmmm.. Vietnamese subs... mmmmm.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdobbin Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 We need to get rid of these bums and the bums that want to support them (NDP and Liberals). I'm sure you can come up with a final solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drea Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 Yes I do. I have more experience with these people probably more than anyone on this forum. Of course you do *wink* after all, they walk past you every day -- how could you NOT know them intimately? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 What we have here are racist, xenephobic people of other religions, Sad but true , but really- dont be too hard on your own people mikey. Try to coach them, and yourself , out of this xenephobic habit. who are still in the stone age and who know nothing else but to get involved politically. We have terrorists. Well well well, they have one leg up on you. They got involved politically. Means they got off the couch and did something whereas you decided to sit at home and watch Flavor Flav's reality series. See where the problem lies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 True true, but one doesnt need immigrants to hear that. Home grown do just fine in that department. In point of fact, almost all the gangs in Toronto are immigrant/ethnic, mostly Jamaicans according to what has been gleaned through the media. In the US, which keeps race-based statistics, half of violent crime comes from the Black community. Unfortunately, they record Hispanic only as a separate race for the purposes of victimization in hate crimes. For the purposes of responsibility for commiting crime they are lumped in with "White". However, most people believe that they are responsible for most of the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_bambino Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 Indeed and you can find them everywhere in the world. In montreal there was a little glasgow (south east end), a little dublin (the Pointe)....and of course, westmount and TMR....Toronto's Chinatown used to be a Jewish ghetto as it were....which is the reason the schmata trade still exists there....in montreal the Jewish streets (St Lawrence and St Urbain) becoame little greece (then little armenia, now sometimes calle the latin quarter but for completely different reason than Paris). Today the Jewish neighbourhoods in Montreal are Cote Ste Luc and Hamstead while in Toronto it's Forest Hill and Bathurst/ Lawrence, Bathurst Finch... And this all means nothing.....if past history is an indicator, once immigrants have settled in the first thing they do is move to a nicer neighbourhood...brionging their family values with them. Of course. But, I didn't question the existence of these communitites, I asked whether government and/or corporate support and sponsorship that enhances ethno-cultural fortifications was needed. An enclave serving as a stepping stone for generations between the old country and the new is one thing. It is quite another, however, for that community to be protected by policy, supported by government money, and pandered to by corporations. I doubt that 40 years ago Little Italy, Chinatown or Little Glasgow ever had specialised street signs, cultural funding, or the ability to choose in which language they wished to do buisiness with national institutions in the neighbourhood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 It is quite another, however, for that community to be protected by policy, supported by government money, and pandered to by corporations. I doubt that 40 years ago Little Italy, Chinatown or Little Glasgow ever had specialised street signs, cultural funding, or the ability to choose in which language they wished to do buisiness with national institutions in the neighbourhood. 40 yrs ago I think you would be right. There would not be the signs that say Little Italy et al. But then the city and by extension the prov/feds, realized that this was a marketing cash cow to take advantage of. Littlle Italy and Lil India are being marketed as such since tourists want to see those places. I am reasonably confident that italians and indians didnt ask for the signs since even the blind ones knew they were in the right neighbourhood. All sorts of cultural fairs and festivals are supported by our tax dollars. And rest assured they are not all immirgant festivals, lots of white ones too. Besides, we all pay tax so why not give some back to communities to have festivals and whatnot. Think of.... Greece on the Danforth Festival (lots of cash given to them) Fergus Highland Games. (yea you might but I doubt it- find a person of colour there) Chin Picnic shall I go on? As for national institutions in which language to speak. You can bet commerce provided that service to make money , not Babuschka's asking for Polish to be provided. You think (not you secifically) we are alone in this? Look at the states. They too have dual packaging provided by commerce,not the govt, and plenty of products and virtually all in the southwest and southeast are in Spanish first english second. Why? I would have to agree with bc2000's tagline . Economics trumps virtue ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 Of course. But, I didn't question the existence of these communitites, I asked whether government and/or corporate support and sponsorship that enhances ethno-cultural fortifications was needed. . From the point of view of the corp, sponsors....yes. Immigrants come to canada with zero canandian berand loyalty. Their affinity to new brands and their subsequent loyalty to those brands has to be nurtured. This message is brought to you by BMO, the offiical bank of the all the immigrnats that give Mike david the willys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 These cultures vote for the Liberal Party of Canada and that is why they are here. I am convinced this is one of (again, i say "ONE OF") the key reasons for opening the doors so wide to immigrants under the Liberal watch the last few decades. The Liberals do quite well in Toronto. Coincidence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Globe Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 I would call the south asian baggage and racism they carry to be 'extreme'. So much so it passes on to their children born here (as I have surveys to show). Hey Mike, care to post some of these surveys which supposedly back up your claims? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 Hey Mike, care to post some of these surveys which supposedly back up your claims? I've got the feeling mikedavid00 works closely with Diane Findlay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Globe Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 Looks like Mike was full of crap as usual. "Trust me! I got studies to prove my verbal diarrhea!" Still waiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 Looks like Mike was full of crap as usual."Trust me! I got studies to prove my verbal diarrhea!" Still waiting. He thought you wanted him to vote , and it rained this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 (edited) http://www.statcan.ca/Daily/English/080402/d080402a.htm So In my opinion, the Liberals are basically giving preference to those who have the most racist and xenphobic cultures HAHAHAHA I love how you accuse them of being xenophobic as you talk of how much you hate immigrants. Edited April 24, 2008 by punked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VD. Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 mmmm.. Vietnamese subs... mmmmm.... Damn straight! But seriously now, I thought that we were all pro multi-culturalism here in Canada (though apparently we have problems defining what that actually means). I dunno I guess if you ask most people if they like immigration they say yes, but only if it's immigrants that share their cultural/ethnic background. I get the feeling that Canada has never been very tolerant towards immigrants until recently. You know with all those strange shenanigans the government pulled to keep people out (like once labeling black people genetically unfit for cold climates). I always sort of thought that immigrants wouldn't mind integrating if we actually had good programs to help them through the process. I understand that there are ethnic ghettos in abundance, but it seems to me that this is sort of encouraged since ethnic communities do get money from the federal government for their cultural activities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADIEN Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 (edited) Same old same old... Today it is the South Asians (darn I hate that term, not the people, the label) and the Jamaicans, yesterday it was the Irish and the Italians. Today it is the Chinese, yesterday it was the Jews. Today it is "TD offers services in 9 languages". Yesterday it was "They have their own banks and Credit Unions". Why not just say "I hate everyone who doesn't share my culture or my hatred"? We already know it anyway. Edited May 12, 2008 by CANADIEN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VD. Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Same old same old...Today it is the South Asians (darn I hate that term, not the people, the label) and the Jamaicans, yesterday it was the Irish and the Italians. Today it is the Chinese, yesterday it was the Jews. Today it is "TD offers services in 9 languages". Yesterday it was "They have their own banks and Credit Unions". Why not just say "I hate everyone who doesn't share my culture or my hatred"? We already know it anyway. I agree with that one. I don't really like the label 'South East Asians' or 'South Asians' either. Mostly because I'm not sure what it means or which countries fall under the category. I mean I'm pretty sure not all South East Asians share the same political views, the same culture, heritage, etc. But then again i don't even really know what South East Asian means so I don't really know the hell I'm talkin' about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Same old same old...Today it is the South Asians (darn I hate that term, not the people, the label) and the Jamaicans, yesterday it was the Irish and the Italians. Today it is the Chinese, yesterday it was the Jews. Today it is "TD offers services in 9 languages". Yesterday it was "They have their own banks and Credit Unions". Why not just say "I hate everyone who doesn't share my culture or my hatred"? We already know it anyway. That would make us Quebecois, wouldn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADIEN Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 That would make us Quebecois, wouldn't it? Je suis Franco-Ontarien. Mais vous, puisque vous êtes, entre autres, homophobe, francophobe et, je suspecte, xénophone, vous êtes, d'après votre propre définition, un Québécois :lol: Argus does not need a translation, but for the the benefit of everyone else I am Franco-Ontarian. But you... since you are, among other things, homophobic, francophobic and, I suspect, xenophobic, you are, according to you own definition, a Québécois :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Globe Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 South Asia covers Pakistan, India, Bangladesh & Sri Lanka, all of which are linked in terms of culture and history. Think of it as being on-par with "European" It's a shorthand, and as long as folks recognize the difference within that group is about the same as within the "European" label, than it's fine. Generally it's an official term, folks will never refer to themselves as "South Asian" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 South Asia covers Pakistan, India, Bangladesh & Sri Lanka, all of which are linked in terms of culture and history. Think of it as being on-par with "European" It's a shorthand, and as long as folks recognize the difference within that group is about the same as within the "European" label, than it's fine.Generally it's an official term, folks will never refer to themselves as "South Asian" True, the South Asians I know generally prefer to be called Doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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