America Kills Bhutto.

[Oleg Bach]

Did any of the boys down in Washington who mouth the word democracy like parrots reading from a script insist , even suggest that Bhutto needed proper and real security in order to make the so-called American agenda come to pass? Why is it that this sweating little coward that dictates via the military in Pakistan...who desperately needed Bhutto gone (dead), has the full support of Washington - it makes sense to me that if America supports this dithering dictator that it most certainly supports the killing of what was the up and coming female Messiah of Pakistan if not possibly the whole Islamic world?

IF - these guys who sit in and around the oval office - really wanted peace and security in the world they WOULD HAVE INSISTED THAT BHUTTO BE PROTECTED! THEY DID NOT. Surely the American intelligence angencies knew that it was a matter of time before Bhutto got wacked by the hand of the handlers that control fanatics and motivate them - I wonder what motivated the assasin? Was there a few million bucks to be provided his family? Someone pointed this human bomb and shooter - some one programmed the idot. Makes you wonder who the creeps are that take advantage of EMOTION.

Looks like the sole purpose the the Bush administration is to generate as much mayhem as possible in order to further enrich a sadistic status quo that has but one reason for being - which is to have more wealth - more power to abuse - as if George is a farmer speading out the last bit of manure on the killing fields globally to keep him and his handlers and henchmen rich for another generation - shame on this facilitator of mayhem for profit. If I could say one thing to the poor people of Pakistan it would be - don't weep - do not cry and do not fear - the globalist parasites thrive on this negative emotion - show them nothing - give them nothing - starve the buggers.

[bush_cheney2004]

Seems to me that insisting that the US should have protected Ms. Bhutto only cements the very superpower role that you rail against. Please try to get this storyline better organized.

I still think it was Canadian Al Qaeda from Esquimalt.

[margrace]

And we all know that the US government has never facilitated any killing of any leaders in the world.

[bush_cheney2004]

And we all know that the US government has never facilitated any killing of any leaders in the world.

The "US government" faciliates a lot of things...even killing babies in utero (before they can become leaders).

Brilliant!

[margrace]

The "US government" faciliates a lot of things...even killing babies in utero (before they can become leaders).

Brilliant!

Boy you sure wiggle and squeak to get out of things, what does abortion have to do with Killing the lady.

[noahbody]

Bhutto said blame Mushaffaf.

http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/dec/28bhutto9.htm

[bush_cheney2004]

Boy you sure wiggle and squeak to get out of things, what does abortion have to do with Killing the lady.

No wiggle and squeak at all....go back and read it again. I answered your assertion and added a cherry on top just to keep things interesting.

How many dead babies is a leader worth?

[margrace]

No wiggle and squeak at all....go back and read it again. I answered your assertion and added a cherry on top just to keep things interesting.

How many dead babies is a leader worth?

Well you just proved my point, if you have no good argument change the subject.

[Michael Hardner]

I think BushC has an excellent point.

You can't argue that the US shouldn't be a superpower, and argue at the same time that they have the responsibility to protect democracy in other countries.

In any case, this thread is about Olech 'proving' that America was behind the Bhutto killing...

[bush_cheney2004]

Well you just proved my point, if you have no good argument change the subject.

But that is the point...I am not arguing with you at all, but you don't realize it. It's no fun when you force me to dumb it down!

[Topaz]

I think BushC has an excellent point.

You can't argue that the US shouldn't be a superpower, and argue at the same time that they have the responsibility to protect democracy in other countries.

In any case, this thread is about Olech 'proving' that America was behind the Bhutto killing...

No one is arguing about the US being a superpower, but remember what goes up must come down. IF you are up there you will be knocked down and having the invader for a president doesn't help the US. The invader has also talked about peace and freedom for people. When its comes to any country that the US is involved in who do you really thinks rules that country..the US or the leader of that country?? Of course we can't count Russia or China, they wouldn't be taking any of their crap!

[bush_cheney2004]

No one is arguing about the US being a superpower, but remember what goes up must come down. IF you are up there you will be knocked down and having the invader for a president doesn't help the US. The invader has also talked about peace and freedom for people.

Pssssst! Wanna play hockey in Afghanistan, eh?

When its comes to any country that the US is involved in who do you really thinks rules that country..the US or the leader of that country?? Of course we can't count Russia or China, they wouldn't be taking any of their crap!

No, we pretty much dick around with them too, only in different ways. US troops have been in China and Russia.

[Oleg Bach]

Pssssst! Wanna play hockey in Afghanistan, eh?

No, we pretty much dick around with them too, only in different ways. US troops have been in China and Russia.

So you want "Oleg" to prove that the US was behind the Bhutto killing? Not likely! That's not the point - the point was that like a person watching a child getting wacked down and killed by an auto form a distance - when you could have gone to that child and have taken their hand and walked them across the street - but refused to do so and stood by like some organ transplant doctor who needs a fresh new heart for a the grandchild of a man who sits on the board of directors of your hospital.

You know what I mean - it was not in the best interest of the Bushites to have someone ruling Pakistan that would actually be out for the betterment of the nation. Instead they leave this puppet in power to make sure that the war on terror never ends. What would the manufacturers of Hell Fire Missles do if peace was to break out in the world? This is the reality of global gangsterism - and there is nothing anyone can prove...imagine if the whole thing was actually legit - the head of Pakistan would have picked up the wandering adventurer BIN LADIN by now and handed him over to Georgey boy..but that is not going to happen seeing the cowards in Washington have close ties with the Saudis - wonder what kind of dirt the Saudis have on the Bushite oil guys? Probably every means to blackmail - through strange sexual activity to plain old international corruption - the Saudis have Washington by the testis..that's the bottom line - so Bhutto - knew it was a matter of time before she was made "a saint" -she probably knew that was the best she could do - sad..and America just watched...and did nothing..personally I was surprise that this murder was so swift.

[Rue]

Lol the evil Americans did it!

The internal violence in Pakistan has gone on since its inception includingthe violent murder of its first Prime Minister, its continued military coups and violent assassinations of subsequent civilian and military junta rulers.

The political instability within Pakistan is caused by many factors starting with the fact that the majority of its citizens are still dirt poor and subscrive to fundamentalist religious beliefs that condone violence and tribalism.

Add to that a very wealthy and tiny elitist group of wealthy farm owners who use the military to preserve their power base and you have a fiefdom of a few privileged elite propped by a corupt military.

True Pakistan in the last 15 years suddenly saw the emergence of a middle class but this middle class has failed to bring stability to a society known for its extremes between the rich and poor.

Pakistan is also a country full of mountain ranges that make it impossible to patrol on the ground. It is impossible to govern as each village has its own leader with their own agenda. At best it is a constantly changing series of coalitions between village elders and corupt politicians and farm owners.

The Taliban and Al Quaeda control most of its border regions with Afghanistan and there are equally as violent fundamentalist Muslim terror cells to its North.

The US has been funding Pakistan at 11 billion per annum. Before you piss on the US consider this-had the US not funded it it could very well have been engaged in a nuclear catastrophe with India by now.

Bhutto was killed but not by the US. On the contrary. Bhutto was being set up by the British and US as the next leader. She was towing an anti-terrorist hard line on Al Quaeda and Taliban and calling for their removal from Pakistan and the arrest of terrorists in her country.

She was if anything perceived as a pro-Western US-British puppet on a string. To suggest the US killed her is therefore insane. What killed her was one of two obvious things-Musharaf ordering her taken out or one of many terror cells in Pakistan. Take your pick-she had enemies to the left and right and in between.

Pakistan will continue to be a country of violence and blood-shed. It has never had an orderly election. Its leaders are either arrested or murdered.

You want to point a finger-point it at Pakistanis within Pakistan and their failure to embrace peaceful methods of dialogue and the fact that many of it not most of its religious leaders have allowed their religion to be used to justify murder and violence and intolerance.

Edited December 28, 2007 by Rue

[bush_cheney2004]

....America just watched...and did nothing..personally I was surprise that this murder was so swift.

Why surprised?...they tried to whack Bhutto several times. Why didn't Canada try to stop it? LOL!

We know from history that it was Nixon and the goddamn US military that Pakistan even survives to this day. India does not like its crazy neighbor.

We'll have somebody new for you to whine about in January 2009.

[capricorn]

Bhutto appears to have died from injuries when her head hit the sunroof of the car in which she was riding.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article628902.ece

But wait...that doesn't get Bush off the hook...that CAR may have been made in the US. Those damn US made cars...

[Wilber]

We know from history that it was Nixon and the goddamn US military that Pakistan even survives to this day. India does not like its crazy neighbor.

Good point, while Indian politics are often far from spotless, the contrast between the two pieces of post partition puzzle is striking. One an emerging major economic power with relative stability and the other descending further into chaos.

Got to be the American's fault, don't it?

[Wilber]

But wait...that doesn't get Bush off the hook...that CAR may have been made in the US. Those damn US made cars...

Probably Japanese. Must be their fault.

[noahbody]

I'm still waiting for Oleg to blame Bush for throwing rocks at his turkey.

[Michael Hardner]

Perhaps it is because India is more multicultural and diverse...

The composite fabric of Indian civilization has been woven with strands and shades of varying textures and colours. It is no exaggeration to say that since ancient times India has represented a melting-pot of races and cultures.

Cultural Pluralism, National Identity and Development

The Indian Case

[AngusThermopyle]

it was not in the best interest of the Bushites to have someone ruling Pakistan that would actually be out for the betterment of the nation.

What makes you think this? She was known to be corrupt, just as all her peers are. Just because she says something or other in order to get herself elected doesn't mean it's the truth.

I would have thought you would realize this, what with your almost supernatural knowledge of the inner workings of the worlds power elite and all.

[Guest American Woman]

I saw the title of this thread -- "America Kills Bhutto" -- and could merely roll my eyes in disbelief. So Rue, thank you for your post. Thank you for taking the time to explain so well why this is such a ridiculous notion.

[Topaz]

I have a treat for all of you and if you go to www.thetruthseeker.co.uk and you will find an interview Bhutto did with David Foster and she will tell you who she thinks is trying to kill her. When you get to 6 minutes and 10 seconds into the video, she will say that BinLaden is dead, he was murdered and who killed him!! Like the US who changes friend when they have to, Bhutto has become an ally of the US since the present leader has been the US a hard time of it. Watch and learn.

[M.Dancer]

Well you just proved my point, if you have no good argument change the subject.

HAve you ever had a good argument?

[M.Dancer]

If the US wanted to help Bhutto the best thing they could do would be to attack the Taliban.....