Schwarzenegger mentally corrupting children

[Leafless]

Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger has signed into law two bills requiring all public school instruction and activities to positively portray transsexuality, bisexuality, and homosexuality to children as young as kindergarten. He has also signed bills undermining marriage and infringing upon the moral conscience of business owners, churches, and nonprofit organizations.

Countries gone to pots and proves Schwarzenegger is a liar and hypocrite.

Signing the bills was a switch for Schwarzenegger, who vetoed nearly the same bills last year, in the midst of his reelection campaign.

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/221

[Michael Hardner]

You're not likely to convince the unconvinced by using such biased sources:

Late Friday, Schwarzenegger signed SB 777 (transsexual, bisexual, homosexual indoctrination of schoolchildren by requiring changes to all instruction and activities) and AB 394 (transsexual, bisexual, homosexual indoctrination of students, parents, and teachers via “anti-harassment” training).

I'm pretty sure that's not what those bills are called.

[Rue]

You're not likely to convince the unconvinced by using such biased sources:

I'm pretty sure that's not what those bills are called.

Psst-Arnold is gay. I knew it. Remember all those references to girly men? I always thought he was just a bit too butch in those terminator movies. I suspected he and Jesse Ventura for a long time but never had any prove. Now I have it.

[Melanie_]

SB 777 prohibits any “instruction” or school- sponsored “activity” that “promotes a discriminatory bias” against “gender” (the bill’s definition includes cross-dressing and sex changes) and “sexual orientation” (the bill’s definition includes bisexuality).

From your link.

I see nothing wrong with this - actually, I applaud Arnie for removing any opportunity for schools to display a discriminatory bias against gender or sexual orientation. Why would anyone argue in favour of discrimination?

[capricorn]

Kindergarten is too late to stamp out discrimination. I think we should develop an anti-discrimination vaccine to be administered to all pregnant women. That'll do it.

[Slavik44]

SB 777 (transsexual, bisexual, homosexual indoctrination of schoolchildren by requiring changes to all instruction and activities)

Existing law prohibits a teacher from giving instruction, and a

school district from sponsoring any activity, that reflects adversely

upon persons because of their race, sex, color, creed, handicap,

national origin, or ancestry.

This bill would revise the list of prohibited bases of

discrimination and the kinds of prohibited instruction and activities

and, instead, would refer to disability, gender, nationality, race

or ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, or any other

characteristic contained in the definition of hate crimes that is

contained in the Penal Code. The bill would define disability,

gender, nationality, race or ethnicity, religion, and sexual

orientation for this purpose.

(2) Existing laws relating to education refer to "handicapped

pupils," "handicapped adults," "physically handicapped pupils,"

"physically handicapped adults," "the handicapped," and "handicapped

persons."

This bill would change these terms to "pupils with disabilities,"

"adults with disabilities," "pupils with physical disabilities,"

"adults with physical disabilities," and "persons with disabilities."

(3) This bill would incorporate additional changes in Section

44253.3 of the Education Code, proposed by SB 859, to be operative

only if SB 859 and this bill are both chaptered and become effective

on or before January 1, 2008, and this bill is chaptered last.

(4) This bill would incorporate additional changes in Section

66270 of the Education Code, proposed by AB 14, to be operative only

if AB 14 and this bill are both chaptered and become effective on or

before January 1, 2008, and this bill is chaptered last.

AB 394 (transsexual, bisexual, homosexual indoctrination of students, parents, and teachers via “anti-harassment†training).

AB 394, Levine. Safe schools: discrimination and harassment.

Existing law prohibits discrimination on the basis of specified

protected characteristics, including, but not limited to, actual and

perceived gender identification and sexual orientation, in any

program or activity conducted by an educational institution, as

specified.

This bill would require the State Department of Education to

monitor adherence to the antidiscrimination and antiharassment

requirements as part of its regular monitoring and review of local

educational agencies and to assess whether local educational agencies

have done certain things, including, among others, adopted a policy

that prohibits discrimination and harassment and adopted a process

for receiving and investigating complaints of discrimination and

harassment. The department would be required to display information

on curricula and other resources that specifically address

bias-related discrimination and harassment on specified Internet Web

sites. The department would also be required to develop, and post on

appropriate department Internet Web sites, a model handout describing

certain rights and obligations relating to antidiscrimination and

antiharassment and the policies addressing bias-related

discrimination and harassment in schools.

We are all moderately intelligent on this forum, in the future why not point the members of this forum to the primary documents and then we can have a discussion based on the actual text, rather then a sensationalized account from a news agency that makes Fox look fair and balanced.

[Leafless]

SB 777 (transsexual, bisexual, homosexual indoctrination of schoolchildren by requiring changes to all instruction and activities)

AB 394 (transsexual, bisexual, homosexual indoctrination of students, parents, and teachers via “anti-harassment†training).

We are all moderately intelligent on this forum, in the future why not point the members of this forum to the primary documents and then we can have a discussion based on the actual text, rather then a sensationalized account from a news agency that makes Fox look fair and balanced.

We cannot allow majority interest to be beaten down by unacceptable sexual interest potentially harmful to mainstream society, that's why.

Let adults allow for themselves or establish whatever their sexual interest are, but leave the children of mainstream society alone and allow them to mature according to majority interest of society.

[M.Dancer]

We cannot allow majority interest to be beaten down by unacceptable sexual interest potentially harmful to mainstream society, that's why.

Let adults allow for themselves or establish whatever their sexual interest are, but leave the children of mainstream society alone and allow them to mature according to majority interest of society.

Hold on, you are saying the reason why can't debate from actual texts of a law is because of unacceptable sexual intersts.......

Speak for yourself mate....

[fellowtraveller]

Let adults allow for themselves or establish whatever their sexual interest are, but leave the children of mainstream society alone and allow them to mature according to majority interest of society.

Screw that. You were doing not bad up until the bit about "allow them to mature according to majority interest of society."

In my version of Canada, every person can 'mature' into whatever sexuality or lifestyle they choose for themselves. The majority interest of society has zip to do with it.

[Slavik44]

We cannot allow majority interest to be beaten down by unacceptable sexual interest potentially harmful to mainstream society, that's why.

Let adults allow for themselves or establish whatever their sexual interest are, but leave the children of mainstream society alone and allow them to mature according to majority interest of society.

Few points

1. You are going off on a tangent, I only asked why you could not post up the text of the documents involved, rather then relying solely on an inflammatory link that amounts to little more then propaganda.

2. What you have said is very vague, while I applaud how nice it sounds...it means absolutely nothing. I have no issue discussing this topic. But, I am going to need you to come back and clarify a few things.

-What is the majority interest you talk about?

- How have you determined that this is the interest of the majority?

- What is unacceptable Sexual Interest?

- Using specific quotes from the actual legal text, can you show me what constitutes unacceptable and why?

- What do you mean by "potentially"? Like, if I bought a 649 lotto ticket, I could potentially win the lottery?

Edited October 16, 2007 by Slavik44

[Leafless]

Hold on, you are saying the reason why can't debate from actual texts of a law is because of unacceptable sexual intersts.......

Speak for yourself mate....

The law is also an ass, sexually speaking.

[Leafless]

Screw that. You were doing not bad up until the bit about "allow them to mature according to majority interest of society."

In my version of Canada, every person can 'mature' into whatever sexuality or lifestyle they choose for themselves. The majority interest of society has zip to do with it.

I would agree with you if to-day was pushed back to the 1950's.

Society is crumbling quickly due to lack of majority interest.

[Leafless]

Few points

1. You are going off on a tangent, I only asked why you could not post up the text of the documents involved, rather then relying solely on an inflammatory link that amounts to little more then propaganda.

2. What you have said is very vague, while I applaud how nice it sounds...it means absolutely nothing. I have no issue discussing this topic. But, I am going to need you to come back and clarify a few things.

-What is the majority interest you talk about?

The majority citizens of the country who want the country to be a nice place to live in and who are responsible for making the country what they would like it to be, relating to traditional social standards and keep it that way.

- How have you determined that this is the interest of the majority?

The country is still traditionally entact, (proof), although crumbling quickly due to lack of protest by the majority interest to protect what was a stable traditional society.

- What is unacceptable Sexual Interest?

Teaching unacceptable adult life styles, sexual depravities, to mere children who are the off spring in a large percentage of cases of majority interest parents.

Using specific quotes from the actual legal text, can you show me what constitutes unacceptable and why?

The whole legal text is nonsense and overemphasizes a tiny deranged minority lost in a sea of unnatural sexual practices.

-What do you mean by "potentially"? Like, if I bought a 649 lotto ticket, I could potentially win the lottery?

Yes.

But I do think most people would consider it harmful if the are of the traditional majority interest type.

I will ask you a question.

How many rights to you think weird minorities are reasonably entitled to?

[M.Dancer]

How many rights to you think weird minorities are reasonably entitled to?

The same rights every weirdo already has.

[bk59]

Teaching unacceptable adult life styles, sexual depravities, to mere children who are the off spring in a large percentage of cases of majority interest parents.

The whole legal text is nonsense and overemphasizes a tiny deranged minority lost in a sea of unnatural sexual practices.

From the posts on here that actually quoted the laws, it would appear that the laws do not teach anything. They prohibit discriminating against people and allow the school boards to monitor for discrimination. Even if you think certain lifestyles are full of "sexual depravities", these laws would not be teaching anything about those lifestyles. Just preventing people from discriminating against them.

[Leafless]

The same rights every weirdo already has.

Supporting degenerates only proves the unrealistic, unnatural aspirations you obviously harbour in your own little perfect, little world.

If we were all like you, the only society to exist would be a totally dysfunctional one.

[Leafless]

From the posts on here that actually quoted the laws, it would appear that the laws do not teach anything. They prohibit discriminating against people and allow the school boards to monitor for discrimination. Even if you think certain lifestyles are full of "sexual depravities", these laws would not be teaching anything about those lifestyles. Just preventing people from discriminating against them.

Children learn from being taught abnormal rights of degenerates and subsequently opens the gates for them to follow their degenerative lifestyles.

I think it is time society impose restrictions or ban extended rights that interfere with the functioning of what majority interest consider 'normal'.

Edited October 17, 2007 by Leafless

[capricorn]

It seems to me that society's attempts to teach young children morality and sexuality undermine and hinder parental authority over their children and responsibility for their upbringing. I have heard and read the views of many parents who oppose a school curriculum that exposes the very young to societal issues they are unprepared for.

IMO early learning, from kindergarten through primary school, should center on reading, writing, math, science and other academic subjects. Once they reach the secondary school level, students are better equipped psychologically to focus on and discuss questions surrounding morality, sexuality and alternate lifestyles.

I believe the vast majority of parents take their responsibilities seriously. Sure there are deadbeat parents but should we reinvent all our institutions to save the offspring of that minority? I have enough confidence in the human spirit to believe that those children would fare well in life in spite of poor parenting.

[kimmy]

From the posts on here that actually quoted the laws, it would appear that the laws do not teach anything. They prohibit discriminating against people and allow the school boards to monitor for discrimination. Even if you think certain lifestyles are full of "sexual depravities", these laws would not be teaching anything about those lifestyles. Just preventing people from discriminating against them.

Well obviously you haven't thought this through.

See, if we don't allow teachers and other students to bully the fags and dykes and queers, then soon everybody's going to turn into fags and dykes and queers. That's just how it works.

It's kind of like how if you outlawed curb-stomping Jews, pretty soon everybody would be Jewish.

Allowing hate in schools is the only way to let kids grow up Straight and Christian! It's how Baby Jesus would want it.

-k

[margrace]

Well obviously you haven't thought this through.

See, if we don't allow teachers and other students to bully the fags and dykes and queers, then soon everybody's going to turn into fags and dykes and queers. That's just how it works.

It's kind of like how if you outlawed curb-stomping Jews, pretty soon everybody would be Jewish.

Allowing hate in schools is the only way to let kids grow up Straight and Christian! It's how Baby Jesus would want it.

-k

You are absolutely right Kimmy

[Isobel]

If the majority disapproves of Arnold, how did he win the election? Maybe the majority is a bit more open minded than you realized?

[sharkman]

Well obviously you haven't thought this through.

See, if we don't allow teachers and other students to bully the fags and dykes and queers, then soon everybody's going to turn into fags and dykes and queers. That's just how it works.

It's kind of like how if you outlawed curb-stomping Jews, pretty soon everybody would be Jewish.

Allowing hate in schools is the only way to let kids grow up Straight and Christian! It's how Baby Jesus would want it.

-k

Why the hell should schools now be forced to portray certain lifestyles in a positive light while ignoring others? This teaches that certain lifestyles are better than others, which is the very thing they are trying to 'fix'. If you really think this simpleminded approach is going to solve predijuces kids may have, you are sadly mistaken. The qualifications of high school grads is at an all time low. Maybe they should spend less time on social engineering and more on actual teaching.

BTW, bullying is just as wrong regardless of the culture or background of the kid being bullyed, teaching kids it's more wrong to bully gays is just as wrongheaded.

[guyser]

Why the hell should schools now be forced to portray certain lifestyles in a positive light while ignoring others?

Where did it say it that article that they "ignore others" ?

[sharkman]

To focus on only a select few is to ignore all others by comparison.

[Moxie]

Why the hell should schools now be forced to portray certain lifestyles in a positive light while ignoring others? This teaches that certain lifestyles are better than others, which is the very thing they are trying to 'fix'. If you really think this simpleminded approach is going to solve predijuces kids may have, you are sadly mistaken. The qualifications of high school grads is at an all time low. Maybe they should spend less time on social engineering and more on actual teaching.

BTW, bullying is just as wrong regardless of the culture or background of the kid being bullyed, teaching kids it's more wrong to bully gays is just as wrongheaded.

Bravo I couldn't of said it better myself. Schools are for learning, I have no problem with Sex Education but frankly this sounds like Social Enginering. Sex Education not sexual influence should be thought. Children are children for such a short time. Why force them to deal with issues of sexuality when they are to young to understand what is being tought to them. Teach childen acceptance of all people, regardless of apparence, race, creed or color or size. Why is so much importance placed on alternate life styles in schools these days. It smacks of a minority agenda of pandering and appeasement. Homosexual's and "Others" makeup ( I could be wrong with my stats)12% of the population. Obesity is rampart, racism is still alive and well but schools need to teach that having two Mommies is normal?

Changing Text Books to reflect who in history was gay or transgendered, please that's nonsense. What's next banning the Phrase Mommy and Daddy? Nothing the left does surpises me anymore.

Here's how fare the leftys are willing to go, children masturbating in pre-school is just way cool. Their sexual beings after all. It sounds like more propaganda from the pervs for man/boy love Namba or whatever it's name is.

Remember this is Norway a socialist country that's Military is Unionized, cough.

Link: http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article2050710.ece