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I promised @Dougie93 we will do this thread. It comes to a point when you are at war with someone, one needs to understand their view. This is my BIAS, I welcome @Dougie93 and any members to fight me on what I have, I am willing to change my mind: The Orange Order is a fraternal organization with roots in Northern Ireland that promotes Protestantism and British identity. The organization has a long history of sectarianism and has been accused of discrimination against Catholics and other minority groups. In Canada, the Orange Order has been involved in numerous controversies, including clashes with Catholic communities and opposition to bilingualism and multiculturalism. While the Orange Order claims to support the principles of democracy and freedom, their actions have often contradicted these values. It is possible to acknowledge the historical significance of the Orange Order while also acknowledging their problematic actions and beliefs. As a radical centrist, it is important to listen to diverse perspectives and seek to understand the complex issues surrounding the Orange Order. While the organization may have some positive aspects, such as promoting community engagement and charity work, it is important to recognize their problematic history and beliefs. Blindly supporting the Orange Order or any organization without critically examining their actions and beliefs is not a productive approach. Ultimately, as Canadians (new or old), we should strive to promote inclusion, respect for diversity, and a commitment to democratic values. Engaging in constructive dialogue and finding common ground is key to addressing controversial issues like the Orange Order in a productive and respectful manner.