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. . . first the Lefties emptied all the crazy people out of the nut wards, and then they made it impossible to do anything about their unpleasant presence in the streets.
Didn't that happen during the Reagan/Mulroney era?
And it seems to me that here, in Alberta, it was a conservative gov't that released a large number of unprepared persons with disabilities out of Mitchener Centre only to walk the streets of Red Deer.
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I responded this way to this particular poster for a reason. If you read some of his posts you'll have an understanding of what we're dealing with here. And I wish I was paid for responding honestly.
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Jesus = God was created at the council of Nicea. Much of the remaining books of the bible were created under political pressure.
That's a bit facile. More correctly but just as facile is that Jesus = God was ratified at Nicea.
The debate over the divinity of Christ centered around the two main groups, the othodox and the gnostics. The gnostics lost. But the belief of Christ Logos goes back to the 2nd century.
Aftwer that though, the denate becomes one concerned about the substance of Christ. And this debate continues today between the Eastern and Roman Churches.
There is as much evidence for my claim as the one most people buy into. Look carefully into the council of Nicea. Wikipedia states: The purpose of the council was to resolve disagreements in the Church of Alexandria over the nature of Jesus in relationship to the Father; in particular, whether Jesus was of the same substance as God the Father or merely of similar substance.
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I think the originator of this post has been reading The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich.
No doubt you'd read it if it were in comic book form and you had someone over the age of twelve to explain the big words to you.
Is that a denial?
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Teenager rant. Nothing more. Tim Ho's apologized, let's get on with life.
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Atheists can call themselves whatever they want - it does not change the fact that Atheism is just another form of religion.
Who do I worship/pray to?
They can't answer that g. Kinda invalidates their entire argument don't ya think?
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Yeah, real intelligent - when all else fails bash her looks over what she has to say. Reminds me of elementary school.
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Other godless religions include Taoism and Confucianism and possibly, Scientology.......
I think the following is an interesting observation of Taoism and Confucianism (from wikipedia):
Popular Taoism typically presents the Jade Emperor as the head deity. Intellectual ("elite") Taoists, such as the Celestial Masters sect, usually present Laozi (Laojun, "Lord Lao") and the Three Pure Ones at the top of the pantheon. In particular Taoist systems, Hong-jun lao-zu (鸿钧老祖 or 鸿元老祖, the great primal originator) is the common ancestor/teacher of all the deities.
It is debatable whether Confucianism should be called a religion. While it prescribes a great deal of ritual, little of it could be construed as worship or meditation in a formal sense. Confucius occasionally made statements about the existence of other-worldly beings that sound distinctly agnostic and humanistic to European and American ears. Thus, Confucianism is often considered an ethical tradition and not a religion.
And of Scientology this little gem:
The Church says that psychiatry was responsible for World War I, the rise of Hitler and Stalin, the decline in education standards in the United States, the wars in Bosnia and Kosovo, and the September 11 attacks. This "church" is nothing more than damaging science fiction, and a dangerous cult.
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No, we should be reforming the UN. The UN as envisioned by Churchill and Roosevelt was not supposed to be a free for all, one country one vote......
Reforming it is waste of time even if you could. It would end being the same corrupt outfit it is now.
Aaah, the power of positive thinking. Having said that, I'm all for reforming it.
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Newsflash, there's been a born again person in the White House for 6 years, and the last time I checked, no virgins had been sacrificed. Pat Robertson tried a couple times to run for prez, and he just couldn't get past first base, so stop worrying already!
Now he's one guy I wish had used his moral sense instead of being responsible for 1000's of deaths.
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I mean, give me a break. America has been full of Christians since the day we invaded it, and has been a scientific and technological freaking superpower. So please stop waving your arms and warning that if Christians get their way, we'll all be sacrificing virgins on altars and replacing surgeons with priests.
So how would you feel if Pat Robertson ran for President and won? Maybe even Jim Bakker. And now Mitt Romney is in the race and has openly made his Mormonism a part of his candidacy, right down to his mormon underware.
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Wow! 4 in a row! Although I do sometimes post more than two in row.... I'm pretty sure, this is the first time..... for .....Mr.....Newbieeeeee! Thar he goes hissin' and spittin'....and not making any sense again.
Hep-Hep, Hooray! Hep-Hep Hooray!
I must have shaken your very foundation! LOL!
Anyway...... whatever.
LOL
And there you have it folks, full circle.
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I think the originator of this post has been reading The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich.
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Of course, the levelling of bigotry cannot be avoided in this issue.
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Right back at ya.
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A topic had been created for discussion. A topic which I've challenged and had deemed a non-issue (in my view at least).
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The last time I checked, committing adultery is the 7th commandment. A non-issue you say?
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In fact, Dewert has more moral right in the eyes of Christian morality to continue doing his work than have Clinton, Stronach, Chretien et al.
As I've said, and won't say again: this only shows bigotry against Christianity.
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Dewert has more moral right? How do you figure that? Clinton, Stonach, Chretien aren't on the pulpit every week lecturing morality, saying sinners may find themselves in hell.
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Bottom line here is I struck a nerve with betsy. She reacted as many Christians would when they perceive they are "under attack." They are the ones who have a problem when one of their own falls, and make all kinds of excuses (they're only human) for the behaviour. So when a non-Christian calls them on it, all of a sudden we're hate filled bigots. Nothing could be further from the truth. Christians just don't seem to like it when their hypocricies are revealed. Did I say I was somehow better than a Christian? Did I say I hated Christians? Did I say I was a bigot? Did I call others names in an attempt to belittle their argument? Was it irrational to point out Dewert's inconsistent behaviour?
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The whole Muslim world can go do a colelctive back-flip into an empty pool. Or stampede each other to death at the Hajj.
yippee.
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You are you condemning all the muslim world? A tad harsh don't you think?
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Atheists just can't realize that they worship at a shrine just like all of the good religious folk.
Who are they worshipping?
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That was why this priest had voluntarily resigned. Acknowledging he had sinned....and that, therefore means, he thinks he is no longer fit to preach about morality.
And the CEO reiterated the stance of the church in this matter. It is a public reprimand. A public castigation.
He said: this behaviour is not condoned.
That is the crucial point that is blatantly and deliberately being ignored here.
Newbie seized on this story and tried to contort and distort the facts just so it will fit to the story she wants to project. Her irrational tirades only support the fact that she is in a crusade to attack Christianity at all cost. Although I do not question the possiblity that she may actually believe the spin that she's spinning..... I do however have some basis to question her sanity.
Actually, the point that's being ignored is that after years of being qualified enough to preach about morality, perhaps this person should have learned a thing or two. The point is that those who follow religion are no more moral than those who don't.
Right on Cyber. Maybe your words will get through to those who seek only to attack (including those on this forum) and not live the tenets of their own faith.
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A definition of hypocrisy
(some on this forum seem to need this):
the act of pretending to have beliefs, virtues and feelings that one does not truly possess or an expression of agreement that is not supported by real conviction
Dewert, during his romantic liaison, met this criteria. Thus, he merits the label hypocrite.
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Newbie seized on this story and tried to contort and distort the facts just so it will fit to the story she wants to project. Her irrational tirades only support the fact that she is in a crusade to attack Christianity at all cost. Although I do not question the possiblity that she may actually believe the spin that she's spinning..... I do however have some basis to question her sanity.
Okay, enough is enough here. First of all dear Besty, I am male. Second, to claim Dicky boy was not a hypocrite because he happened to apologize and admit guilt is walking around with blinders on. And third, do you question everyone's sanity because they disagree with you?
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Having seen me on the Board, you've got to be f**ng kidding.Mercer is hilarious and I'm glad he aired those little segments. They have absolutely nothing to do with any feelings of jealousy or inferiority to the U.S. They just show, from the street, how little educated the yanks are in regards to their northern neighbour.
Easy now big fella. Just cause you are seem to have a little knowledge of our great country, don't make any assumptions that your fellow Americans do. The truth is they don't seem to give a shit.
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Talk about milking a topic to death. My last post on this: Dewart screwed up, plain and simple. But his "fall from grace" is a little more significant given his position in the church. This little fact you seem to overlook. If you can't see the hypocrisy in that go ahead and live in your rose coloured world. Like I said earlier, I call as I see 'em.
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MS was never a death sentence. Even today, people don't die from MS, what they die from are complications from MS. And there are still teminal illnesses from which there is no cure.