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On 11/1/2016 at 6:05 AM, Boges said:
Yeah, I don't believe any team, other than perhaps the ones that you'd end up having to beat in October anyway, were going to give up anything of worth for sluggers with expiring contracts. And if there was an offer, it certainly wasn't going to help them make the playoffs this season.
It's all hypothetical because we'll never know. You just seem to want to assume that there was an Andrew Miller calibre trade available in March.
It is pretty amusing to see observers blow off the value of Encarnacion and Bautista in March 2016 as being nothing. They were two of the best power players in the game then, and one has improved on that status now. Who would want to drop consistent 100 RBI, 30+ RBI guys into the heart of any lineup? Right, they had no value at all. Hilarious.
What is not the least bit hypothetical is that two very valuable, well regarded assets who both indicated 'pay up or bye-bye' in March 2016 are going to get absolutely no return to a team that needs to get better to move to the top rank of teams. It may well be the best opportunity the team has had to win for 20+ years- pissed away.
What a great end to the season last night in Cleveland!
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My favorite Trudeauism so far is 'social infrastructure'. This is NewSpeak for classic Liberal program spending. Orwell would approve. Program spending never ends, because then Trudeau would make somebody unhappy that he had previously made happy by gifting them money.
It just goes on year after year indefinitely until the economy starts to buckle under the double weight of the ongoing program spending and the cost of borrowing more and more and more and more money to fund the programs. Oh, and what happens when the cost of that debt starts to rise dramatically when interest rates rise, which they undoubtedly will?
Justin is starting to closely resemble old Dad: socially an activist, while at the same time fiscally disastrous.
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It is still a bit hard to follow but what an ending to the last epsiode. A nude and revived Maeve says 'Hello Felix, it's time you and I had a little chat'.
Wow. Chilling. I don't see this ending well for Felix.
HBO keeps setting new standards for TV. Their producton values are off the charts.
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3 minutes ago, Wilber said:
What's the matter with TE Lawrence? Wasn't he an instrumental character in the Arabs getting their independence from the Turks?
The motivation for Britain was not to benefit the Arabs, what an amusing and quaint idea!
The Brits needed to secure the Suez Canal, and more importantly to greatly diminish the authority/power of the Ottoman Empire in the entire region. They succeeded in both, and the Brits came out of that buntoss with a lasting influence on both regional politics and a great big pool of a certain precious black liquid.guess what precious liquid. They pretended to empower the Arab tribal leaders, knowing that they could and would either be both squashed and controlled after the war. This was nearing the end of Empire for Britannia, they used to be very good at this game.
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cultural appropriation is A-OK if you are a privileged white man.
Was Sophie in blackface?
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I respect the opinions that some Christians hold on abortion. Many- of course- have different opinions in support of choice on abortion, they act on their opinions by having abortions, and I respect that too. If only all Christians had the same tolerance for others, wouldn't the world be a much more Christian place?
Imagine too if all Christians tolerated gay people, allowed them to express their love for each other via marriage in a church. Imagine what Jesus would think of that.
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Joaquin Benoit?
LOL . If we go into next season depending on geezer recovery projects like Benoit and Grilli.... it will be another indictment of those idiots in management. Kansas City and Cleveland both have balanced teams with great bullpens. Winners. Giants were like that too, The Jays are not.
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On 10/25/2016 at 9:33 AM, Boges said:
I guess you could say any team that doesn't win the World Series has a failure in management as they didn't build the correct team to win.
We still don't know what they could have gotten for Bautista and Edwin. BTW they're going to offer qualifying offers to both players so they will get draft picks.
It's so convenient to assume that they were going to be able to get younger, more efficient left-hand bats or reliable bullpen help for those players in April. No evidence to support that, but if you think they could have gotten it then you can't criticize the management for not trading players. Who, even though they ultimately failed in the ALCS, helped them get to the ALCS greatly.
What we do know is they re-signed an All-star Free Agent pitcher and signed a 20-game winning lefty. They also have one of the top starting pitchers in the league that won't have to face hang-wringing out innings next season. They picked up a Rule 5 pitcher that was a contributor all year. They mended a bad trade they made by bringing in Benoit, they essentially got Grilli for Free. They got the San Diego Padres to pay them to take Melvin Upton. They got the Pittsburgh Pirates to give them another Starting Lefty and a great Catching Prospect for Hutch.
I'd say they're doing a pretty good job considering the mess AA left them.
No, I'm singling out the Jays as being serious contenders in 2015 who failed to do anythign to advance further in 2016. Of course every team does not have a chance to win a world series. Neither did the Jays, given the failure of management.
LOL about what the Jays might have gotten for two of the very best power players in the game, circa spring 2016..... Two draft picks is a f***ing joke. I do not get why you again apologize for losing 2 great asets for absolutely no return. Must be a Leafs thing. Why wouldn't they get a big return for EE and Bats...... when they both had big value? Instead.... nada. Dick. Zero.
AA left them with a full stadium and a contending team that needed some tweaking. Now they have a team with some really big holes, and they lost two players that could have gone far in filling those holes. Of course.
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5 hours ago, bcsapper said:
It's an important issue, to be sure, but I just think that, generally speaking, DT supporters are going to be pro life while HC supporters are going to be pro choice. There's probably not much to be gained for either candidate by making it an issue for their stump speeches.
Both made their positions very clear at the second debate.
Once again, I am so very pleased at the way Canada has handled womens reproductive rights for nearly 30 years now.
Roe vs Wade may be a landmark case, but is at the same time a wholesale cluster****. Because it is a court ruling, it is a constant and continual target for challenge after challenge by so called pro lifers. Roe vs Wade serves to keep the issue continually in the US courts at many levels. It and never will be resolved, and put to bed legally. It is an industry unto itself.
By contrast, Canada treats abortion not as legal issue but as a medical issue, between (women) patients and their doctor. There is no law really, which means there is little to challenge in court, no rulings to appeal and so on. That alone is a massive source of frustration for 'pro lifers'. They have no public venue to visibly complain.
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On 10/22/2016 at 6:10 PM, msj said:
I'm curious as to how you travel and from where?
The flights from Vancouver to Sydney or Ho Chi Min or Munich or Lima all seem to be within similar dollar amounts and amounts of time.
Certainly some of these places are more convenient from Toronto or Montreal so mileage will vary but it seems to me that the world is pretty small no matter where you choose to go.
Alberta. By air.
There are only deals on travel to South America from here in mid winter, and they all involve a useless transit via Toronto, then at least one flight and more often two to get to most SA destinations. Travelling around SA is also expensive as it is large , there are few cheapo carriers like there are in North America, Asia and especially Europe.
I can almost always get cheap flights from here to anywhere except South America. One exception is a direct (winter only) flight to Panama, which is a major hub to much of SA, especially the northern SA countries. A better hub is Mexico City.
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I was assured that all these appointees were non partisan. Are you saying they are not?
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for 24 hours, until Montreal won, the Oilers were the top team in the league at 5-1 record.
But they have had a run of mostly home games and mostly against weaker teams, except for their well earned victory over St Louis. The OIlers only loss was a thorough thrashing from.....Buffalo.
Washington on Wednesday will be tougher. Last year the Capitals spanked the Oilers at home.....
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15 hours ago, Boges said:
In one off season, how much change could have been possible with the dearth of prospects AA left them with?
Management improved the team's pitching but the team didn't hit at nearly the same clip.
Good teams do not need to hit at that clip to win games. Just the Jays. As I , and now countless commentators, have pointed out. Maybe you missed every talking head on Rogers and TBS mention it? Zaun, Campbell and others avoided speaking of it until it was impossible not to, but I don't have those constraints because I am not paid by Rogers. The Jays had the best starting pitching in baseball, and could not win close or extra inning games all season. FAIL. Management FAIL.
Nor have not forgotten that the Jays had two massive assets in March, the heart of their order, and that they could easily have turned one or both into pitching and/or prospects- and did nothing. So they get nothing now. They have to offer one of them not enough money now, and the other too much . The only reason to offer Bautista anything is to get a draft pick. And draft picks are far from the quality players and quality prospects avalable in March for these guys.
FAIL. Management FAIL.
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2 hours ago, Boges said:
The inherited a team that had very little in the way of prospects from a GM who went all in to "save" his job. Yet moves were still made that improved the team's chances to make it back to the playoffs.
BUT the team they left to take a promotion with Toronto is in the World Series. It's foolish to believe that the Indians that comprehensively beat Toronto didn't mostly have the fingerprints of Shapiro on it.
The 2015 team's offensive production was unsustainable. And we can see that powerful offences don't really do so well in the playoffs. That's 2 years in a row the leagues best offence (Boston this year) was beaten by the eventual World Series representative.
But that is not what happened under Shapiro/Atkins. The team that rampaged through the AL East last year left as faves to win it all this year. They were widely anticipated and picked to go all the way this year. Instead, they barely made a wild card berth, and were laughed off the field in the ALCS.
The Jays lost to a balanced, fast, agressive team with good pitching last year. Hey ho, -same thing this year. Their model does not work in WINNING. It appears that yoiu have finally come around to what I have been saying since about May: the structure of this team and the way the game is approached by the Jays does not work. That burden is on the management, not the players-though the Jays also need to slap some sense, and fast, into several of their selfish lads who refuse to play to win.
It is two years in a row that the Jays failed-with prodigious talent both years- to have any chance of advancing from the ALCS. Balanced teams have won for the last decade. It was obvious the management did little or nothing to address the core reasons we lost last year. We lost to the same team for the same reasons.
No, Shapiro, Atkins and Gibbons do not get a mulligan. This is not beer league.
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1 hour ago, cybercoma said:
That's because you want to destroy the country. /s
That is me: I hate freedom and cannot spell misogyny either.
I should be deported, really. To Costa Rica. On a pension.
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On 7/1/2016 at 9:42 PM, Slick said:
Lucic, hits, fights, digs, grinds, gets under the skin of opponents and scores. $6M might be a little steep but he is the type of guy the Oil need.
So far, he has been much more than just a goon. Lucic was really good in all ways on Thursday , when the Oilerrs beat the Blues 3-1. Scored the winner, had some great chances, and ground it out on the boards against a really good team.
Lucic cannot skate with McDavid, but in fairness- who can?
The Oilers would not have won a close game against a good team last or previous years. Fingers crossed....
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He was expecting 5 years at $30 million per year. LOL. Then and now.
Really, given his performance this year why would they want him back at all? Qualifying offers are around $17 million , right? What if he takes it? He is too fragile, injury prone, weak in the field, weak at the plate and apparently his penchant for whinimg at every pitch is contagious.
QuoteIt seems the Atkins/Shapiro regime knows what they're doing.
Really? Success in pro sports has only two metrics metrics:improvement and winning championships. Did they do either?
They did not take over a team of mutts.
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2 hours ago, -TSS- said:
Is it common that Americans or Canadians have travelled extensively in Europe but have never explored their own continent? Countries such as Brazil, Argentina, Ecuador etc?
The usual excuse for Americans for their lack of travel is that it is expensive. I'm sure they are right that it is expensive to cross the ocean. However, it can't be that expensive to travel to South-America.
Or is it that you just don't care the rest of the American continent?
Actually. South America is considered a different continent.
And it is very expensive and time consuming to get to South America for me. It is likely the most expensive (populated)place in the world for me to get to.....Asia, Europe, Australia are all easier and often much cheaper.
Is cost ever an issue for Europeans when they travel. or is it only a valid excuse for Canadians?
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6 hours ago, sharkman said:
She tried to get back to your topic, and you insisted on more Bill and Hilary info, are you sure you're done now with the Clintons?
At any rate, nobody will care what Trudeau does for at least another year. What proved this for me was when it came out that there was no recession leading up to the election. Shortly after this news, the Trudeau administration let it out that they were no longer going to go into deficit the promised 10 billion per year. They increased it to 20-30 billion per year. I think the media cheered, but at any rate, nobody cared.
Liberals just gotta be Liberals!
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It is embarrassing that our Trade Minister had to cry, then threaten to leave.
Or perhaps that is a new page in the 'lets get consensus' Liberal playbook? If we cry, maybe the bad guys will change their minds.
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5 hours ago, Bismarck said:
What do you guys think about CETA itself (as opposed to who's fault or problem it is that the deal is in trouble)? As a European I'm not opposed to ending trade tariffs, however, I'm very much opposed to the investor provisions of the agreement. The "indirect expropriation" clause comes down to outright political meddling and forms an attack on state autonomy by forbidding government investment if it competes with private investment (which corporations can abuse in numerous ways) and the ISDS clause (renamed, but still part of the agreement) is a flagrant display of distrust in European (and Canadian) legal systems. I can hardly imagine that Canadians (especially those supporting the Trudeau government, which is rumoured to be liberal) are not worried about these topics.
How could any EU member country possibly complain about political meddling of sovereign members, or an attack on state autonomy? Isn't that an everyday activity in Brussels?
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I just realized what The Accountant reminded me of.... Steven Seagal movies.
Imagine a Seagal flick with a plot not derived from a comic book, a decent budget, plus competent actors and you have The Accountant.
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We tend to have a need and love for what never happened.
We remember only the good things.
Why would we want to return to 'traditional Canadian values' of even a generation ago?
Sexism, racism, mysoginy, and hatred of foreigners were standard fare not long ago. I don't yearn for any of that crap.
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23 hours ago, Boges said:
He certainly won't get another Majority under a Proportional Representation model. No party has achieved more than 50% in Canada in a long long time.
I suspect this is another broken promise in the making. He can blame it on this task force that he's set up.
BTW where are the people going on and on about how 60% of Canadians didn't cast a vote for this illegitimate Liberal government?
So many people assume that proprep is what Trudeau had in mind when he promised electoral reform.
It is a mystery why they would continue to think that. It was never an option,since in reality the only choice was ranked ballots, obviously. It is inconceivable that Trudeau and the Liberals would simply surrender majority Liberal governments-and surrender them permamanently, which is what would happen to them under proprep.
If he absoluterly had to, Trudeau will go into the 2019 election with another round of FPTP, but there is really no reason for him to do that.
He has the votes in the Commons to punch through ranked ballots legislation, he has the support of his party, there are no constitutional barriers to ranked ballots, and he will soon have the Senate stacked with cooperative 'Independents'. Spring session of Parliament 2017, done deal.
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We know with absolute certainty that both of the best power players in the game are worth a lot more than sweet f all.
And the other certainty is that two valuable pieces that could have been used to improve the team are worth sweet f all now.
The starting pictching is OK. The bullpen remains inadequate, obviously, and is their most pressing need.
Cleveland went a long, long way by playing the kind of aggressive, unselfish, winning baseball I dream of seeing in Toronto. So many unselfish, slashing, hit-to-opposite field ABs by so many players. What a contrast to the Jays! I hope Gibbons was taking notes, though it is very unlikely. Even better, they did it on a small payroll. It would seem the Jays -with their huge market clout and bigtime attendance can easily afford to buy what they need, since given the example fo EE and Bats they don't have the wits to trade for it. But I won't hold my breath.