Argus
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Who would they replace him with? They don't have many bilingual people to begin with, and after two leadership contests in two years they don't have many left. People say Polievre but it's far from certain he wants it, or would do a better job.
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4 hours ago, TreeBeard said:
Do you think it’s correct to say that “the right” hates social programs and would rather see people go broke if they can’t pay for their own healthcare?
No.
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23 hours ago, cougar said:
I like the guy. He looks better than any other president I've seen.
How deep you are...
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On 10/3/2021 at 4:29 PM, cougar said:
You tell me they were imbeciles who did not know wrong from right?
I'm telling you moral standards were different back then, and nobody considered the tribes here as 'nations' or worried overmuch about setting up shop on empty land.
On 10/3/2021 at 4:29 PM, cougar said:This is how it goes in history - different tribes and nations fighting over resources (according to your own narrative).
According to anyone who knows even the slightest bit about history.
On 10/3/2021 at 4:29 PM, cougar said:Wow, you are like tar - sticky goo - can't clean my hands of you.
I know how it distresses you whenever anyone tries to introduce reality into your bizarroworld views.
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A large study in Canada has found that the Delta variant now basically taken over in Canada is not only more contagious it's also a lot more dangerous. Those who catch it are twice as likely to end up in hospital and more than three times as likely to end up in ICU. The death rate is 133% higher than the original version.
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15 hours ago, cougar said:
The law and the courts do not recognize the bullshit you are trying to sell me.
How is anything I said less than 100% factual?
15 hours ago, cougar said:The point is:
When England was a nation and had laws about land and private property they knew what they were doing according to their own laws was stealing the land and murdering the owners.
Those laws didn't govern other lands beyond their scope.
15 hours ago, cougar said:And because the law and the courts do not buy your type of bullshit, this is why someone is now apologizing and this is why there is that September 30th.
Canadian courts care almost as little about the law as they do about history. Same as you. They're wrapped in self-righteous moralism and exempt from reality.
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1 hour ago, cougar said:
The point is, there were humans in these lands for thousands of year before the Europeans came.
And the point is so what? All of human history in every part of the world is of groups, tribes, nations, peoples moving around, coming into conflict, fighting over territory and resources. Thousands of nations rose and fell over thousands of years, conquered, mixed in with others, whatever. That includes the UK and France, the ones who came here. Why do you imagine the natives would be immune from that happening? They certainly did it to each other before the white man showed up. Half the reason we can't settle land claims is multiple claims from multiple 'nations' who owned the same territory at different points in time before another native group threw them off.
So quit whining and thinking we should be any different.
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2 hours ago, Cannucklehead said:
Residential schools were about catholicism and converting the natives to them.
There were other religious groups involved. And conversion was certainly part of why they did it. But the government of that time didn't operate social services itself - for anyone. It used religious organizations for that.
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4 hours ago, TreeBeard said:
If children are taken from homes without the parent’s consent by government policy, do you think the government should have to compensate the victims?
That is not what the compensation is for.
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20 hours ago, cougar said:
'The Inca Empire was the last chapter of thousands of years of
There are precisely ZERO scientists, archeologists or historians who believe human life arose here as opposed to tribes of hunter gatherers crossing the Beringia land bridge.
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19 hours ago, BeaverFever said:
You have no idea what I want for First Nations people
It's clear you don't think they're fully human, and certainly not up to white standards.
19 hours ago, BeaverFever said:Speaking with of ignorance! You don’t even understand how your own country works. There are close to ZERO municipalities that can finance their own services. They receive the majority of their services and infrastructure funding from provinces and the provinces also receive transfers from the federal government.
They receive SOME of their funding from the provinces and feds, but the same people pay taxes to the province and feds. Natives on reserve pay nothing. Small cities and towns have to take out loans and raise taxes for capital financing. Nobody gives them a damn thing.
19 hours ago, BeaverFever said:You are clearly ignorant of what went on in those schools.
And you don't have a clue about the kinds of things that went on in regular schools. Even the good quality ones where rich people sent their kids. Our schools took after the British, and even Prince Charles found himself locked naked in a cage while cold water was poured over him at his boarding school.
19 hours ago, BeaverFever said:\Yes experiments. You see due to the high level of malnourishment in the residential schools, the federal government thought the kids would make excellent subjects for various nutritional research experiments.
But they'd never do that to white kids, right? Like white orphans in Quebec?
19 hours ago, BeaverFever said:Do you not know we have a publicly funded healthcare system in this country?
Sure do. And it's available to anyone who shows up. But no one locates hospitals out in hamlets of two or three hundred people, and no one can make doctors live anywhere near them either.
19 hours ago, BeaverFever said:And the driving distance has nothing to do with anything on this point.
Not if you're a native, no. If you're white it does. If you're a native on reserve the federal government will send you by bus, train or aircraft to get whatever medical care you think you need. No verification necessary so if you want to get flown to Thunder Bay to do a little shopping just make a doctor's appointment and skip it. If you're white it's up to you to find your own way to the nearest doctor or clinic.
19 hours ago, BeaverFever said:Nobody is insisting they live anywhere and many FN communities are not so remote or isolated and in many cases it was the Canadian government who forcibly relocated them there to begin with.
True. And it's people like you who keep them there.
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On 9/30/2021 at 6:16 PM, cougar said:
Nope, they have been here all along. Same with the Indians of South America. Same with the indigenous residents of the Caribbeans.
I take it you donn't agree with stuff like science and history.
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3 hours ago, TreeBeard said:
What do you think is overblown about it?
A: People are judging the schools based on today's standards, not the standards of the time. All schools back then were rough, had strict discipline enforced by corporal punishment, and had bullies and perverts among the staff and senior students.
B: People don't seem to understand just how many people died of communicable diseases back then, or how ignorant medicine was about both the cause and cure of said diseases.
c; The graveyards were known for many decades. That their headstones had been removed or disintgrated is irrelevant. These were not 'mass graves' but simple graveyards which had been ignored with time.
3 hours ago, TreeBeard said:Does the fact that the legislation was passed by a unanimous vote in the House of Commons give you pause to think that, despite what you think are Trudeau’s motivations, that it is a good idea?
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
Once it was proposed you'd have had to have balls to say anything against or assholes would call you a racist. None of our politicians have any balls.
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28 minutes ago, cougar said:
Of course this is not the truth.
The other way it happens is, everyone goes back to where they came from, or where their ancestors came from; leaving the Indians alone.
Do the Indians go back to where they came from too? That would be China, I believe.
By the way, if I go back to Scotland, and some of my ancestors there were from the Vikings who colonized the norther, do I then have to back to Norway? And if my ancestors moved there from further south do I have to go there then?
Also, the natives living on the land they stole from other natives, like the Iroquois, for example, do they have to go back to the lands they came from and give the land back to the original natives who occupied it? Obviously in some cases they slaughtered them to the last child so there's no one to give the land back to, so do they just have to leave anyway?
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31 minutes ago, EastCanada90 said:
lol saying they don't work is one
If they're on the reserves they mostly DON'T work.
31 minutes ago, EastCanada90 said:saying no abuse in residential schools another..
Never said that. You created this strawman because you aren't able to dispute what I DID say.
31 minutes ago, EastCanada90 said:why don't you go say these things at one of there demostrations today.. instead of a forum and see what happens to you? no you won't cause you rather hide behind a screen and say it.
So what you're saying is I should go and do what, protest at a demonstration, and hopefully (in your mind) get beat up by presumably violent natives? Do you support violence being used to suppress views you don't like?
In fact, I chose to work today.
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9 minutes ago, EastCanada90 said:
lol you like natives . yea okay sure buddy you done nothing but insult them all day long GTFO .
Really? Please name the insults.
Seems to me I've mostly insulted the sanctimonious, hand-wringers who are blindly shoveling money onto reserves to assuage their own self-loathing.
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4 minutes ago, EastCanada90 said:
drop the racist tone and grow up its 2020 you act like a man from the 1900s. and Plenty of natives do work jesus.
In fact, all I've done is pointed out the ridiculous cost of keeping so many people on isolated reserves where they're wasting their lives away. I haven't said anything against natives. I like natives ten times more than I like simpering, knowledge-free progressive whiners.
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2 hours ago, scribblet said:
It's not racist to question why people choose to live on unsustainable reserves where they have to be supported by the rest of Canada. How can they ever become self sustaining and independent if they continue to live there, and how can their children not suffer depression from living in such a place.
Liberals don't care about such things. Their priority is keeping natives on their reservations. Preferably wearing their quaint native costumes.
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2 hours ago, BeaverFever said:
There’s always going to be anti/indigenous racism in Canada like what we’re seeing in this thread but your time is finally up.
Is that what you see? I see liberal bigots who want to keep natives like dime store Indians, stuck in the past, doing quaint pow-wow dances for your amusement so you can toss pennies to them on your way past. The people on reserves have no meaning in their lives, no reason to live. No jobs or prospect of them. No way to improve or better themselves. And so they drink and do drugs, and get in fights while you sit back and merrily applaud.
Every imaginable kind of person from all around the world comes to Canada and moves to the cities to live among us but somehow or other you liberal types think natives are some kind of deeply inferior creature that has to be kept isolated out in the woods and can never be integrated. Why is that?
2 hours ago, BeaverFever said:Demanding First Nations prove they “deserve” basic human necessities like clean water that are given to white communities without question is racist, full stop.
It never ceases to amaze me the depths of ignorance I see from the Left. Please do tell me what white communities are 'given' anything without question? A white town pays its taxes, and if it needs a new well, it pays to drill that well. White communities pay for their own water treatment facilities and their own roads. and if they're small and isolated too bloody bad. No one is going to build a road to a 300 person hamlet in the middle of nowhere if it's full of white people.
2 hours ago, BeaverFever said:No white community would ever be denied clean water on the basis that they don’t “deserve” it
White communities pay for their own water.
2 hours ago, BeaverFever said:The abuses, neglect and science experiments inflicted upon children on residential schools are well documented and a direct cause of of poor living and social conditions today, full stop
Bullshit. The abuses were roughly the same as inflicted on children in other schools at the time, especially poor kids, especially in boarding schools or orphanages or reform schools. Science experiments? What ass did you pull that one out of? Are you perhaps thinking of ones performed on white orphans in Quebec - the Duplessis orphans? Cruelty and lack of concern for individuals was widespread back then throughout the country and world.
2 hours ago, BeaverFever said:Deliberately funding indigenous healthcare and childcare at lower rates than similar non-indigenous services is racist, full stop
No one funds white health care or childcare but themselves. And guess what, if you're in a tiny town you better support yourself or else. How many tiny towns have any medical care within an hour or two drive?
2 hours ago, BeaverFever said:The government has historically made nearly unlimited amounts of money available for giant pipelines that move oil long distances from the most remote parts of the continent
Pipeline companies pay for their own pipelines. Because there's profit in it. Any time the government helps it's in order to get back more than they give.
2 hours ago, BeaverFever said:while deciding there’s no money for a small pipeline to move a small amount of clean water a short distance to indigenous communities. That is racist full stop
2 hours ago, BeaverFever said:ngry white hate-filled trolls are increasingly a rarity in society and reduced to posting anonymous internet rants
What you mean is cringing, sniveling self-castrated leftists are desperately giving boatloads of borrowed money to assuage their guilt without a single brain cell wondering who is ever going to pay that money back as the debts mount.
And as they insist on keeping natives out on their isolated reserves the natives drink themselves to death or commit suicide because there' no purpose in their lives and never will be.
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2 hours ago, EastCanada90 said:
considering we came here and took over most of there lands the least we can do is let them live where they perfer and help pay for equal living as us normal white people when it comes to water/housing.
White people don't live where they want and never have. They live where there are jobs and where they can afford. And if there's no water they dig a well. And if that doesn't work they have to move. No one is going to help them by digging one for them.
And how long are we to keep paying billions for hundreds of thousands of natives to sit around on their asses doing no work? Forever? What's the end game here for you liberals? Do you want us to turn the country over to them and live as serfs? Would that finally assuage your guilt?
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So let's talk about Shoal Lake reserve #40. This is another thing you won't read about in the mainstream media. Shoal Lake is in Manitoba and has a population of about 300 people. The government built a $30 million dollar road to the reserve recently. Previous to that it was only accessible by ice roads or in the summer by ferry from Shoal Lake #39, which charged them hefty tolls. The federal government spent $100k per person to build the bridge, or about $400,000 per household.
Now they've also spent $33 million for a water filtration plant to please EastCanada90. There is already a water filtration plant at nearby (half a mile) Shoal Lake #39 but the natives refused to share. They also refused the offer to dig individual wells for each house. They knew this government would do whatever they wanted and it gave in just like they expected. This kind of crap is going on in tiny reserves across the country, billions wasted on tiny hamlets where no one works or ever will except for the band council.
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14 minutes ago, EastCanada90 said:
lol of course right wing media is the reading you want me to do haha nice try .. either way it doesn't matter if you like it or not the holiday is here to stay so sept 30th every year sit back and enjoy
Yes, it IS right wing media. Because you won't read such things in the mainstream media. But the most relevant points are straight from government and school documents on how the deaths occurred.
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5 minutes ago, EastCanada90 said:
there has been plenty of abuse found over the years from residential schools... you should be ashamed saying that.
Is English your second language? I didn't say there hadn't been abuse. I pointed out the recent hysteria was over finding graveyards - even though we knew they were there before anyway.
There was abuse in ALL schools back in the day, especially boarding or residential schools. Abuse by teachers and other staff and abuse by older students. These were the days of 'spare the rod, spoil the child' after all. Corporal punishment didn't get phased out in Canadian schools until the 1970s and even 1980s.
5 minutes ago, EastCanada90 said:and saying they don't work seriously? my job has had natives working there every year so yes they do work.. and yes why was all those graves hidden if nothing wrong happened eh ?
The graves weren't hidden. Everyone knew they were there. Except, apparently, the ignorant, which includes the mass media.
Try a little reading.
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It seems even Obama gets censored if he says the wrong thing and it offends the progressive media agenda. ABC news did a big interview with him which played on Good Morning, America. One part they edited out was where he said open borders were unsustainable.
"Immigration is tough. It always has been because, on the one hand, I think we are naturally a people that wants to help others. And we see tragedy and hardship and families that are desperately trying to get here so that their kids are safe, and they're in some cases fleeing violence or catastrophe," Obama told co-host Robin Roberts in the excluded portion on Tuesday.
"At the same time, we're a nation state. We have borders. The idea that we can just have open borders is something that ... as a practical matter, is unsustainable," he added.
Conservative party leadersip (erin otoole)
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What a laugh. As if the Liberals haven't dragged people off the centre! LOL. But enough of this high-minded stuff about voters. What voters care about is who will pay the most in borrowed cash for their votes. Everything else pales into insignificance.
The one thing Trudeau has going for him is he realized this. Doesn't matter whether you're honest, have any integrity, are smart, ethical or have good ideas. Canadians sell their votes to the highest bidder. If China's president ran an admitted proxy here and paid Canadians enough for their votes he'd get elected.