ReeferMadness

No doubt you would prefer that we did what Harper did - send a token cabinet minister and a few low level functionaries with instructions to disrupt the proceedings to the greatest extent possible. Trudeau needs to send a message to the world that Canada is once again taking this seriously. I support Trudeau inviting the opposition. If they don't think climate change is real or they think that climate change action is all about saving a few owls and polar bears, let them stand up and say that. Also, Canada has a very weak federal state and Trudeau needs the provinces on board. He's doing the right thing by bringing them along.

Really??? Do you really believe that the Chinese are going to laugh until they cry at the prospect of adding more coal powered electricity plants? Take a look at these air quality pictures and see if you can repeat that completely idiotic statement. Maybe the idiots didn't go to Paris at all. And New Delhi is surpassing even Beijing. Of course you forgot to mention that even as it builds fossil fuel electricity, China is the world leader in adding new renewable power generation as well. Developing countries have a point when they say that the developed world put most of the carbon into the air to date and should be first to clean up their economies. Not only is it the right thing to do, it's in our best interests. With the growth of renewable energy, there's no guarantee that the price of fossil fuels will ever come back to the point that drove the gold-rush mentality that has prevailed in your precious tar sands. And even if it does, it's likely to be short lived. There will come a day when you won't be able to pay people enough to haul away the toxic sludge that is being dug out of Northeastern Alberta. Albertans would have been smart to use the energy dollars to build a sustainable economy instead of having a two decade kegger. The hangover will be a bitch.

I think it's more than access to guns - I understand that other countries will lots of guns don't have the same problem. I think there is something else going on down there. Too many guns isn't helping, though (regardless of what the NRA might claim). Apparently, there were close to 200,000 guns on Black Friday alone. Statistically, I wonder how many of them wind up killing spouses or kids.

It's a false argument - nobody has ever discussed "taking away guns" except the gun nutters.

So, based on nothing more than your own observations, you fabricated a generalization to smear "most" people who think that intelligent gun laws might play a part in reducing gun needless and pointless gun deaths. And then you say the level of dialog here is low. #smh

Really? Cite???

The twitterverse is going crazy with talk of gun control (both sides hurling insults) and race. There is a report that one of the shooters was a disgruntled employee.

Most recent reports now say 3 killed.

According to the mass shooting tracker, this is mass shooting number 352 this year.

I understand 12 dead. They're looking for 1-3 suspects, heavily armed and wearing body armour. And something about dealing with a potential explosive device. They attacked a centre that dealt with developmentally challenged individuals.

Harper's kids were quite a bit older and less in need of constant minding.

I'm predicting a turkey surplus in years ahead.

Apparently BC and Derek, like the authors of the strategy that produced the butterball, would prefer that Canada just follow the US from war to pointless war.

You definitely wouldn't want the other guys chef - food poisoning and all.

While she doesn't have an official function, she's still a public figure and would expected to be at functions with Trudeau. Or participate in hosting dignitaries at the official residence. The direct comparison with Harper isn't quite right either - his children were quite a bit older.

Sweet. Somebody (might have been Derek) has been claiming that the Gripen was designed mainly to chase Russian tanks.

I haven't read much about the Rafale but I have read some about the Gripen. And nothing has suggested to me that it is primarily a bomb truck, the way the butterball is.

Honestly, who cares? This is much ado about nothing.

Clearly, despite Derek's protests to the contrary, the Gripen, Typhoon and Rafale could all fly rings around the butterball. As could the Russian or Chinese aircraft the F-35 is likely to meet. Oh, and also the F15, F16 and F18. Not sure if I've forgotten any.

Your link claims Canada is about to buy 65 F-35's.

Read the full report It covers claims that other jets are tested sans payload. In fact, it says the opposite is true - that tests have compared an empty F-35 against partially loaded 4 gen fighters. The F-35 sacrifices performance for stealth and the stealth advantage is already (at least) partially degraded through the use of low frequency radar.

A quote from your link: :lol: If that is reflective of the currency of the propaganda information on that site, I wouldn't rely on it too much.

And you hang around because you like to watch? :lol:

Yup. And that one big hot engine will make an enticing target for IRST systems. Imagine when the F-35 exhausts the few weapons that will fit in its internal weapons bay and turns for home. Not only is the butterball too slow to outrun anything but that huge hot engine will be an inviting bullseye. What a disaster.

You're off topic - go and start a thread about shipbuilding programs that go nowhere. This thread is about a butterball program that goes nowhere - as it should.