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I wonder why it is Canada, that allegedly stands for democracy and free speech can't tolerate in an international forum the free speech of others?
I mean shouldn't Canada set an example to the world of how much free speech is valued?
How we may disagree with what is said, but, we say your entitled to your opinion.
Isn't that what Canada is supposedly doing in it's export of "democracy"
Free speech is a fundamental right, so what message is Canada sending to the world, regarding it's real stand on freedom of speech?
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What do you mean, "could be"? Whats that got to do with this thread anyway?
I'm sure we both know what a tangled rats nest politics is. There are deals that have to be made, concessions, compromising our values for the "greater good", as defined by someone else.
Is it wrong to distrust government? I look at it this way- when someone is in a position of authority, when they have access to secrets, and the keeping of secrets, and control the money... thats a recipe for corruption if there ever was one. And if you don't play along with the team, you'll be quickly eliminated. An honest person cannot even survive among them. An honest person, could never even make it into that level of government. Why? Because they would be politically killed off, in the constant power struggle that always exists in these places. In politics, ruthless ambition is the road to success. Underhandedness and deceitful manipulations are totally commonplace. These are the facts of life son...
bandelot, it is only a tangled rats nest when the side you oppose is in power.
Not you specifically,
But, as an example for Pliny. It's a tangled rats nest because Obama is in, when Bush was in, it was all hunkydory.
What a laugh!
Now for the Obama followers, it is all good....
Yet, it is all the same, it is always the same, I was listening to an interview and the man, James Petrus, was calling Obama, the third term of the Bush administration.
Why? Because despite the sale pitch of change, there has been none!
But according to those that ally themselves with the "right" OMG! It is some huge change.
Hence the saying, the more things change, the more they stay the same!
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Well, gee, I'm nto sure how inclusive you really are being you've just excluded me from the human race...
You choose to exclude yourself.
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Yet you saw color, so that's why I was wondering what the point was. I guess it was to point out that you are a "fool?"
You couldn't be more wrong, but hey, at least you can read.
I will give you a gold star for that.(sincerely)
Apparently,or sadly, your reading skills are better then most others on this forum
Explain this to me??
How could I demonstrate this little gals wisdom in her actions without pointing out that her and I have different skin colours?
How else could I have communicated to you all, the non-judgement in her actions without pointing out our superficial differences?
How else, could I have shown you the wisdom in her youthfullness?
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Kuzzadd
Escape from the cloud of the collective conscience and attempt an understanding of what is being said here.
Your "cute" story is all about the person who wrote it and not about the cute little girl in the least. The person who wrote it seems almost "surprised" that the little girl smiled and waved to a white person as though there was no difference in their skin color. He obviously noticed the little girl was black and here she was behaving like any cute little white girl would. Isn't that nice. It's almost as though she didn't even know she was black.
I know you focus on the cute little girl in the story when you read it but take a look at the person telling the story. It's a condescending and discriminatory tale that sounds all warm and fuzzy. It isn't. It's deadly and it's the reason racism is so hard to escape.
How you or other individuals percieve what I have said? I have no control over.
Good god, you people just pile in with assumptions, it is incredible!
Kimmy has me condenscendingly patting her head, and you have me being "surprised"
You ALL make your own assumptions for all your own reasons, and as I have said, they have nothing to do with me.
One reason is you clearly didn't read what I wrote based on what you wrote above.
So stop attributing imaginary head pats and expressions of surprise, when nothing like that happened.
Goodness Argus even cited "liberalism" for gods sakes.
I think some self-examination on your part, and the part of some others is in line.
For the way you all read a simple story of the wisdom of the little gal.
Ya know that safe about assuming.....
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I wasn't cringing because someone had a nice moment with a little child.
I was cringing at the tone of your story.
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The story was about the little girl's action.
The "tone" you perceived is all of your own making.
Your reaction speaks of you, not of me.
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Well I thought Kuzadd's story was cute. It must have made those little brown children feel really good to get a pat on the head from a white person.
And I can relate, because I have a young dark fellow on my crew, I think he's Jamaican or something, but now he's a Canadian! He's still in school, but he's home schooled so he can work afternoons with us, and we're just as pleased as punch to have him. He's just as sweet as could be. Always comes to work with an "I (heart) Jesus" pin on his shirt, and a big smile on his face, and he works just as hard as everybody else! And I always spend a little extra time with him so that he'll learn some skills that'll help him, and to show him that even though he's dark I just really appreciate all the hard work he does for us.
And Kuzadd, if you're appalled at how patronizing and self-congratulatory all of the above was, then I've accomplished my goal, because that's exactly how I felt reading your cringe-inducing message.
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"cringe inducing" wow, what a weird reaction to a little girl who didn't see colour, only a person. Were you scared, maybe she was muslim on top of it all?
really.
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Oh you're so liberal and noble and inclusive that you are clearly a person among persons.
I so admire you. But then, I'm sure everyone does.
Yes, I am inclusive, but it has nothing to do with being liberal, and everything to do with being a member of the human race, a human being. Try being one, it is very enjoyable.
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the point of the message, and it was right in the story.
See, right in the end
"And, ya know what?Our skin was not the same colour, did the little cutie care?
Nope she saw a friendly face on another PERSON and said hello."
The point was, the little gal, didn't see colour, she didn't see "race", she saw a person.
In her youth, she is wiser then the fools that populate this forum
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I'll tell you something else. You are a lot smarter than you think you are.
Ta Ta.
I'll tell you something, I am a lot smarter then you think I am, I am quite confident of my intelligence, knowledge and I continue to learn everyday.
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Now you are getting into conspiracy theory. What other masters does government have in a democracy?
yes, meeting behind closed doors and agreements such as the SPP, NAFTA, etc made without the people's knowledge or consent are sooo conspiratorial.
I don't recall voting for any of that?
Yet, business is always invited, shows where the priority lies.
Not in democracy or accountability to the electorate that is for sure.
"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." - Johann Wolfgang van Goethe
Enjoy your "democracy" lol
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Did you thank George Bush?
for what?
had I followed his advice, I would have "gone shopping" and bought a house I could not really afford.
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http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index....st&p=443011
It seems on this board that the only ones who benefitted during this economic crisis are the ones who know little about economics. Like Kuzadd, who paid off his house and is now debt free. What recession? There's a recession? Do you think he should thank George Bush? -
They aren't frowned upon by banks. they are forwned upon by governments.
You are woefully mistaken. Ultimately, it is the banks that frown on the paying down of debts.
All part of debasing the currency. We do have banking laws you know. Banks are allowed to create money out of thin air. It's called fractional reserve banking. Did I mention Fractional reserve banking?No need to, I am fully aware of the fractional reserve system. Or as I call it making money out of thin air.
Maybe our Government's 600 billion dollar debt is a drag on future earnings? What do you think?Absolutely, and it will erode our standard of living, but the banks will be rolling in the dough. Won't they pliny? Wouldn't you think that indebtedness would make the banks very happy? I would. Which makes the banks the one that call the shots.
.No need to further demonstrate your understanding of economics. Somehow I get the impression you believe government plays no role at all in our economic well-beingGovernments play a role, but, not in "our" well being. They bow down to other masters, not the electorate.
And some vague rise and fall in capitalist greed is the major contributory factor in economic cycles - as though lack of greed is a cure for economic depression. Hmmm.. is lack of greed about spending or is it about saving.If we spend are we being greedy consumers? If we save are we being greedy hoarders? I already know making a profit is greedy but should they spend the profit or save it?
simplistic thoughts. Do you think it is all that simple?
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There are several schools of economic thought.
The most prevalent is Keynesian economics. There is the Chicago school of Economics.
The one I follow most closely is Austrian economic theory.
I would disagree with the most prevalent being keynesian, The most prevalent is the chicago school.
That is my opinion.
And if one follows economies globally including our own included , the hand of the Chicago school is all over changes in our economy.
You also realize economics is not a science? It is a school of thought.
Funny about nobel winning economists and the massive failure of Long Term Capital Management.
http://www.sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/ltcm.htm
which of course was bailed out, buy taxpayers
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/28/business...omy/28view.html
more of that "too big to fail" bullshit.
or just the beginning of it, I should say....
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Right on bandelot! Right on.
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Whether "race" has any validity as a scientific concept is completely irrelevant to the topic at hand. Whether "race" exists in any scientific sense or not, everybody understands what the terms "black" and "white" mean in the context they're being discussed here.
Of course they do, since they have been conditioned to do so.
There are historical and cultural facts that can not be dismissed by discussing the issue of whether "race" is a scientifically valid concept. The use of people of African descent as slaves in the United States is a historical fact that can not be denied by questioning the validity of race as a scientific concept.I wouldn't dismiss the slavery issue.
But the ok to use people of different skin colour grew out of the social concept of differentiation of race.
Trying to ignore the role of race (the social concept) is to ignore the elephant in the room. When groups of people had historically been relegated to the "powerless" group based strictly on their appearance, and when membership in in the "powerful" group is likewise limited to some who look a certain way, the social concept of race is important in understanding the context of the divisions that exist to this very day.The role of race, should be ignored, because it is an artificial creation. It is used when the powerful want to reign over the powerless. These views then become embedded in the psyche of certain persons. They then contribute the the division of humanity.
Which is why, in the bigger picture they should be ignored.
Even the most powerful man in the world is, according to some, a victim of racism at this very moment.-k
Maybe he is, maybe he isn't?
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cute story:
at the local mall, two adorable little girls, bopping around the hallways, there Dad doing his best to keep up with the energetic twosome.
The older of the two, turned to me, with her megawatt smile, HELLO, friendly wave.
And I said "hello cutie" back to her.
Cause I always call little people "cutie"
And she was as pleased as punch.
And her little smiling face and friendly wave made my day
And, ya know what?
Our skin was not the same colour, did the little cutie care?
Nope she saw a friendly face on another PERSON and said hello.
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Here's the history of how we get health care.
First of all thieves come along and claim land for themselves and tell the people that they will protect them for other thieves for asmall stipend. Then they decide they wish to be known as Kings and Queens and Lords and Ladies and such. Then they say they will protect the people's money from debasement by making "official" money. Once they do that they start to debase the money because they need more to keep themselves living according to how they are accustomed. then they invent a "buffer" called government becuase too many of them are getting their heads chopped off by the peasants. The legislature will now bear the brint of the peasant' displeasure. Meanwhile, the money is further debased by monetary policies, such as fractional reserve banking - a system invented by bankers and persuaded to be used by government in an alliance to be able to create money at will.
Once they have a toe hold on the economy they start failing in providing justice. A thing they promised so instead of correcting the injustices they create more to just make them "equal" and no one is complaining anymore. Eventually, someone does complain about the government making these other guys equal and leaving them out. Once again the ones who receive largesse from government would end up destitute should they lose the privileges to which they have become accustomed. Well, society would be adversely affected if that should happen any way. So they decide to debase the currency even more to pay for more "equality".
Finally, they go broke because too many are living off the State and too few are producing.
But it starts with government, getting a toehold in the economy of a society first. This is the primary area that goes under assault. The markets become unfair because the money is not stable and it gets harder to determine value with the unstable currency. People become a bit neurotic about their buying habits and eccentricities abound. The government then blames the people in the market for being too greedy. It is, by this time, already paying many citizens entitlements and starts to tell them how to spend their entitlement and taxes are necessary to keep them.
Someone mentioned growth and that the society would collapse if growth stopped. Well, it is true that if you are not growing you are either stagnant or shrinking. Economies can grow, be stagnant or shrink. It is governments that can't shrink and must keep economies growing and it is a terrible thing if an economy should ever stop or shrink. They can't get the revenues they need to sustain themselves from a shrinking or stagnant economy. They panic if that occurs and start doing things like increasing taxes, or providing incentives to stimulate the economy and they keep corporations going which are huge sources of revenues for them.
They also have a little tool called "inflation" that they use to try and avoid shrinking economies. Inflation encourages people to spend and not save. So it is a great tool to get people to keep production up by consuming. The economy grows, the tax base grows and government grows. This explains why hoarders are frowned upon and subject to all manner of pejorative terms when the economy shrinks. It is claimed to be unpatriotic to save under such conditions.
Anyway inflation encourages this growth and turns it into exponential growth. Who wants to spend their savings later when they can see they do not have as much purchasing power in the future as they do in the present.
I think that's enough for a start.
The history of how we get health care is people cooperating. Not this clap trap you have written.
oh and inflations is used as a tool of manipulation, you left that out.
Hoarders are frowned upon because banks need people indebted so they can continue to create money out of thin air.
When people pay off debts, they become "dead beats" because the banks can't continue to create "money" Thereby reducing their profitability and the control mechanism of working for the man, to use a slang term. Or debt servitude.
You forgot all that.
You also forgot the fact that debt is a drag on all future earnings.
Shall I go on.
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Kuzadd and Sir Bandelot. What school of economics are you getting your material from? It's quite hilarious, really! Understanding economics takes a little reading and it isn't about arithmetic. You should save this thread and if you ever do crack a book on economics and understand it then you will get a real hoot out of what you have posted.
I must warn you that most mainstream economists are more "econometrists" studying macro economies and aggregates with all the necessary mathematical formulae to put the most ardent student to sleep. Their prime interest is in how government should steer the economy. Paul Krugman of the New York times is an excellent example and Nobel prize winner in the field. The reason Paul has a column in the Times, at least in my view, is he writes his opinion of what he believes government needs to do to keep the economy bubbling and the disastrous consequences of not following his advice. It is his view that government needs to control the economy and he is almost always on the side of regulation. He is a socialist politico-econometrist.
as you are well aware from our previous discussions, I have a firm handle on economics.
So don't bother with the high and mighty routine.
Why don't you tell me how many schools of economic thought are out there, and which one you adhere to , and do you know of any others yourself.
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sample this miniclip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHmHYk_P22w...feature=related
I,d like to know your thoughts.
really, I started to watch it, and shut it off.
why?
there is no "white race" there is no "black race"
there is only ONE race, that is the human race.
Did you know Italians were considered blacks. Irish were not as good as 'whites' read anglo/protestants, then there is the whole North American slave issue, and the slaughter of the natives.
But what these really all are is the powerful inflicting their will on the powerless.
If you wanna play the "race card" you are simply causing more division.
I ain't buying what you are selling.
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look, I hate to get into the right/left bull, because it is just bull.
George Bush had his fanatical followers, in the US from the religious right.
There were two documentaries off the top of my head which pushed Bush as the second coming of christ.
One was: Jesus Camp
The other was" George Bush Faith in the White house
Then I recall some fawning comments made by religious leaders regarding GWB.
One by Jerry Falwell
I am such a strong admirer and supporter of George W. Bush that if he suggested eliminating the income tax or doubling it, I would vote yes on first blush"On first blush, what a giggling school girl!
So those ally that themselves on the right can say whatever they want, but the demagoguery was there.
And it was meant to be there. Just as it is with Obama. Face it these guys, these presidents, are Products, Brand Obama, Brand Bush
Obama-young, energetic
Bush- Christian, good old boy
They are then pitched as such to their respective and receptive audiences.
All done with the help of a large PR firm.
As has been done for a long time now.
I highly recommend an older book, you may be able to get a copy, pricey.
The Hidden Persuaders
written in 1957, here is a link to a relevant chapter
Politics and the Image Builders
The branding and marketing of Presidents is nothing new and nothing unusual, it is not exclusively left or right. The only thing difference, is the individual that believes it is so.
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I have NEVER understood how people can get so excited over politicians.
that I will agree with you on.
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Yes. I witnessed that - Bush had the utmost respect and Americans followed him everywhere.
Sheesh!
your not suggesting that GWB did not have fanatical followers?
come on, the religious right??
cripes they made documentaries including worship of GWB, recall Jesus camp?
fanatic followers, the only difference is in who is following
Canada boycotts Ahmadinejad's UN speech
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Now the pack mentality is a scary thing, and Canada demonstrating pack mentality doesn't bode well for it's people.....