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  1. Most Canadians live in a strip 100 kilometers wide along the US border. Their population density is not much different than most American states. And if Bell and Telus can make money doing it, so can some big US company. The same can be said of internet and cable. The point is if we actually had a free market others could choose to come in and compete. But we don't have a free market ,and they are not allowed to come in and compete.

    Bell and Telus can't make money doing. They get subsidized by our Federal government to build their "private network" in the free market that only exists because of government intervention and you have no idea how much the start up costs of a network are. You are talking out your butt. Check out Wind Mobile and tell me all about the success of the free market.

  2. Actually when Martin was leader they have 500,000 members, so yes at one point they did have over 300,000.

    Yah Yah we've seen the type of counting Liberals do. 1 person counts as 150 until someone points that out to them. Trudeau claims he has 175,000 new registrants then only 120,000 are actually signed up. We know their numbers don't add up when you actually dig into them, we've seen this leadership election.

    The only reference I find to the 500,000 number is from the Liberals own rebuilding plan from the 2011 policy convention. It says and I quote "to a somewhat suspect high of 500,000". Not even the Liberal party believes those numbers they know they were lying then just as they are doing right now. It is just a little harder to lie in this information age.

    http://convention.liberal.ca/files/2011/12/BuildingaModernLiberalPartyFinal.pdf

  3. Yeah this leadership vote is suppose to be the biggest leadership vote in Canadian history...

    suprise suprise.

    It wont be don't worry, its all hype it already went from 300,000 people to 117,000. Trend continues it will be 30,000 less then both the NDP convention that nominated Jack Layton and the one that Nominated Mulciar. I mean honestly 200,000 "Liberals" that totally existed have already vanished. Keep setting expectations that wont happen though so when you tell me that Treadue will become PM I can laugh and point to this very post as an example of how much you buy the hype.

  4. Trudeau has similar BS on his website. Someone should be able to tell and show Canadians what kind of leader they will be, without getting into specific policies.

    Yes that is what Liberals believe. You can know what someones ideas are by their hair and "Just watch me". It takes a little more the NDP I guess we are more cynical believing in order to understand how leaders will lead they have to answer questions on that leadership.

  5. So you just gave what the NDPs economic policies are, which frankly are idiotic. Trudeau has said he wants to work with the party to develop policy, which according to you is what the NDP do. Yet you socialists are criticizing him for what you praise your party for.

    Interesting that you talk about going to the Conservative convention to get laid. I'd rather go there than a shady massage parlour.

    I also linked to Mulcair's pre-leadership win policy info as well. You know because you want to know what people believe in before you vote for them, blind voting is what Liberals do I guess because leadership races aren't times to talk about what leaders believe?

  6. We do not have anything LIKE a free market. If we did, Verizon would be able to come in here and run Bell, Telus and Rogers out of business. Our market is heavily regulated and protective towards the big providors in all things, be it banks, internet providers, cable vision or cell phones.

    Yes Verizon wants to invest millions upon billions of dollars building a telecommunications network to compete in one of the least densely populated countries in the world. Nope it makes no sense to try to compete in Canada in telecommunications for a company like that. You show how little you understand the market when you make statements like that. Just because you want to believe something doesn't make it true that is what we call faith I base my opinions on reality. Verizon only just expanded their LTE netowrk in to SoCal one of the most densely populated and wealthy regions in NA you live in a dream world not the real world but I guess.....free markets?

  7. The US? Hell, Africa has cheaper telecommunications.

    But But But But............. FREEEMMMMAAARRKKKEEETT.

    Seems like Wind mobile can't compete in this amazing free market of ours and is up for sale. Wonder if the other three telecoms will buy them chop up their assets and agree to up our prices again. Free market always works for Canadian consumers who cares about real world examples of why we need a mix market when we can pretend the Free Market is always good for us.

  8. Here's something interesting.

    During the NDP leadership race - there were almost 130,000 card carrying membership that were able to vote. Only half of them bothered to vote - 75,000

    Contrast that with the Liberals who has only 33,000 card carrying membership. Therefore you might expect only 16,000 or 20,000 Liberal card-carrying members to actually vote in the leadership process.

    It really shows you how much the Liberal party has collapsed over the last 2 decades. From a strong 500,000 card carrying membership to a measly 33,000.

    In fact, the liberal membership after the 2011 election was about 55,000 - they lost 22,000 card-carrying members since then.

    It can't be? 33,000 members? Those numbers can't be right??? Can they?

  9. Where's Mulcair's economic policies? Topp announced during the leadership he'd raise corporate taxes by 50% but I never saw Mulcair's 2015 election platform?

    You must have a real Google problem. Section 1 is economic plans if you want other policy you should read the rest of it.

    http://xfer.ndp.ca/2012/2012-12-17-Email-Convention/Mtl2013_PolicyBook_E.pdf

    Liberals its always the NDP's fault that they are guided by a rudderless boat with no policy and no plans. Thats what stung you last election.

    BTW here the Mulcair document which we handed out during the leadership run just so you know he was talking about economic policy during the leadership run.

    http://www.thomasmulcair.ca/site/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Jobs-and-the-Economy.pdf

    I get that Liberals don't care about policy and want to pretend that NDP have the same problem but its like the old saying goes:

    "You go to the Conservative convention to get laid, you go the Liberal one to get drunk and you go the NDP convention to talk politics"

    Sometimes we talk policy to death and the debates hurt us but by god we debate policy to death in our party.

  10. Oh, I havn't seen evidence of that yet.

    One instance of 100 people signing up with the same email could just be the same goof. If you showed me 2000 of those instances you might have something with your claims. this isn't robocalls.

    I'm sorry but your story that every liberal signed up to 3 different campaigns strikes me as "not very likely" they arn't communists you know.

    Even if it was the same mistake counting 2 people for every 1 person that signed up that would take you down to 150 000 after hearing that campaigns signed up many of the same people that makes perfect sense. The 300 000 number was never real if it was you would have 300 000 people registering for free to vote.
  11. Wow hahaha I wouldn't be surprised at all that he said that. Do you have a link or source for that.

    So very, very true. I also think it's far more telling/useful to look at politicians previous voting record as MP, or say in Senate/House of Reps, when they are running for PM/party leader/President etc. or running for re-election instead of listening to what they during a campaign (or, well, ever)

    http://www.ottawacitizen.com/opinion/columnists/Trudeau+effect/8030922/story.html

  12. I think you are confusing the difference in the numbers, they are not the same

    the 300+K was to take part in the leadership situation, they signed up to the process.

    The voting required a secondary registration of which 40+% registered to vote. These required verification and many people could not be verified for the vote due to having a family email address rather than individual emails, or living at the same address (which many people do, and is not weird for older people of which may old people do support the liberals would be in that situation, some old people don't even have their own email, or think of a group home or seniors home living situation where the address is the same, or a college dorm or residence, or a apartment building)... and so are not allowed to take part in the voting.

    Do you understand now?

    No you don't understand those 300 000 were from campaigns signing the same people up over and over again. One email had been signed up over 100 times. There never was 300 000 people if they just never existed.

  13. Ok, look at it this way. Could 300,000 people want to see Harper out of the PMO?? As most long term PM and other leaders, voters get tired of them for various reasons and want them gone. Now, because of what the Tories have done to EI, CPP and other things, they have peeved off many Canadians and the only way the Tories are going to stay in power is using Pierre Piotine or the 250,000 immigrants they let into the country yearly. I'm sure the money will come out if there is an election is 2015, but I think communites will say thank you, but you are gone.

    There is no 300,000 people. They don't exist. There is 120,000 people that is the number sorry the 300,000 lie is debunked. I know there is 130,000 people who don't want to see Harper be PM I am one of them which is why I paid money and registered for the NDP leadership race.

  14. Where is the proof.

    sure knock off 100 but that is still well above 300k

    Where are the fraud charges?

    plenty of people will sign a petition and not vote for someone.

    Without evidence it is pure conjecture. I'm sure the other parties have had their share of wankers too. Its pretty easy for a wanker from another party to engage in that sort of activity just to plant these sorts of views.

    Again if Trudeau, Hall, and Garneau all get the same person to sign up that is 3 to 1 count. Just because they signed the same people up many times just means they have no clue. There was never 300,000 Liberal "supporters" that is now obvious there are 120,000 less then the NDP got. Coming out and saying you have 300,000 people when you don't makes your party look stupid and your defense that is the other parties supports fault your party opened their dumb mouths and up expectations when they didn't have the numbers to back it up is kinda silly.

  15. @ Argus. One must be very careful quoting government issued employment data. The official 7.7% the US quotes is widely laughed at by my American friends. Many of them quote something they call the G6 or something rate which they say is really over 12%. Apparently the 7.7% figure is just those currently receiving their version of employment insurance. And although the Japanese rate of those actively looking for a job is 4.6% according to a quick google search I just did, that is still twice the long term average for Japan.

    If you want to count the unemployed and underemployed you need to apply the same logic to Canada.

  16. - FYI ... While the provinces blow 50-60% of their operating budgets on needless numbers of public employees with inflated compensation that is, at least on pensions, unsustainable, and major municipalities blow even more, typically 70% plus of their budgets on their union buddies, the federal government has managed to keep pay, perks and pension spending under 20% of its operating budget.

    - Perhaps you can see a pattern here.

    - I know I can.

    OK 50-60% of provincial operating budgets to to health care so what you are saying is WRONG. Making think you are WRONG on everything else.

  17. Various news sources I've been following for the last 6+ years. Post a link to your info.

    Federal debt, not counting provincial debt, municipal debt and personal debt, is above 600 billion. Government income from all sources including income tax is about half that amount. It will increase another say 50 billion by 2015 to be somewhere around 700 billion (the number is much higher) when adding in bonds that are still in issue the number is much higher, when you factor in forward projected contracts, that is yet even more money.

    Add in provincial and municipal and personal debt you get a couple trillion dollars of debt.

    Also if looking at the value of the dollar on a ratio of CPI, the figure has skyrocketed, as CPI has continued to increase with the debt and relative value of the dollar in global value has declined with the US dollar.

    According to the CIA the debt to GDP ratio is 84.1% circa 2012

    22px-Flag_of_Canada.svg.png Canada 84.1 2012 est. 87.52 2012 est. North America

    Here is the issue and shown in Kevin Pages request for last years budget information in court... the feds are just fabricating their information and won't show their secret documents to anyone or release the details to the public.

    Now if this information is so wrong why is the Federal Government letting the CIA misinform the public on the state of finances in Canada, is the CIA providing misinformation in its world factbook on its ally Canada to make it look like it is performing worse that it really is? Why would the US do that to their ally and #1 trading partner?

    (Also this is without the new airforce and new navy they are going to buy.. right..)

    Well those figures are wrong for sure. I would go with the IMF figures before the CIA figures while the CIA has its role and is really good at operating drones and giving out misinformation no I would not trust them with economic figures. Their mission statement has nothing about keeping an informed populace. I think you are closer to right then this other guy those numbers aren't right.

  18. That looks like a bit of misinformation from you, post up a link to your information.

    As of late Thursday, shortly before the midnight deadline, almost 43 per cent of supporters and members — some 126,000 — had registered.

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/less-than-half-of-liberal-supporters-are-registered-to-vote/article10171254/

    If you get outside of the Liberal media bubble you will find quotes from Liberal Leadership contenders who cast doubts that there were ever 300,000 people. It seems Trudeau's team signed up many "people" who are highly suspect. Some people were signed up by many teams thus triple counted or more for them, and one email address was signed up over 100 times. These numbers are inflated either on purpose to get a good news story so Liberals like your self feel good and can spread misinformation, or the Liberals are so incompetent they can't count. Either way it reflects terribly on team red. Again 126,000 people is less then the NDP signed up and you had to pay to vote in that race, its not good news.

  19. It is Borrowing for a limited time, as the economy comes back the true measure of debt, debt to GDP will go way down and the gap will close.

    BTW you have nothing that supports that besides your own opinions. So I will say your BTW is a lie until you provide a citation.

    No I cited and quoted the head of the CBO you might want to go back and reread the thread Shady. If debt to GDP is going down then what are you crying about that is your whole argument that RR budgets that NEVER balanced were just fine. I guess your flipping and flopping all over the place again Shady.

  20. Some of this chat almost looks like people here are jealous of Trudeau or affraid of him.

    Also the comment about not releasing numbers is just plain misinformed.

    It was 300 and something thousand registered and like 120 and something thousand processed to vote.

    Nope that 300,000 number was the lie the Liberals told to the media before they released the real numbers and only misinformed Liberals who are going to get broad sided by their real support are still repeating it.

    Read what I am going to say. More NDP MEMBERS who had to PAY to vote in their leadership race signed up to vote then for the Liberals end of story. This is all media hype but no one is buying it except those old baby boomer Liberals who still listen to "news" that look to shape the narrative instead of report on it. You better check your "facts and figures" because they are as bad as Trudeau's.

  21. The issue is government is not 'borrowing for a limited time'. It has a huge structural deficit that is a drag on the economy.

    BTW: Obamacare has likely killed more jobs than the stimulus created by making companies afraid to hire workers.

    It is Borrowing for a limited time, as the economy comes back the true measure of debt, debt to GDP will go way down and the gap will close.

    BTW you have nothing that supports that besides your own opinions. So I will say your BTW is a lie until you provide a citation.

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