Accountability Now

Well...looks like the NDP and Liberals want mandates to continue. Vote in HC to reject the plan to end mandates with NDP and Libs voting it down.

For something as sensitive as this they should be printing a retraction article clearly letting people know they made the mistake. Not burying it at the bottom of the previous article where no one that previously read the article will find How many tImes do you return to a site to read the SAME article? And if so. Do you read to the very bottom to look for corrections? it’s done in bad faith…plain and simple

Adding a few questions to the election ballot would cost peanuts. You are now claiming that I’m asking for a referendum which is not what I said and therefore makes your argument a straw man argument As usual, you’re not actually listening to what I’m saying. You acknowledge that things have changed since the election yet the Liberals are standing by their claim that Canadians voted for them hence they want these claims. 1. Even at the time, only 32% of Canadians voted for them. Not even the largest amount 2. Things have changed yet they don’t acknowledge the change and hold onto an election platform that is clearly outdated because they think they speak for Canadians.

So if you know that things have changed since October then why don’t the Liberal party? Why do they say they speak for Canadians because of the election

But the way to handle Covid certainly was available before the last election as it was laid out in each parties platform. Again, I’m not saying they should have changed the system for this issue however it’s just wrong to say the second place popular vote actually speaks for Canadians.

Exactly. So to say any party speaks for Canadians is categorically false. The only way this would be true is if a key election issues were polled with the ballots and the winning party acted on those results.

Keep in mind, the winning party was actually second place in the popular vote and only had 32.6% of voters actually vote for this platform. Hardly the nation, as is the case with most Canadian elections. With that said, even if the Liberals had 51% of the vote it does not automatically mean they were voted in for that reason. People often vote for one key issue that matters to them and don’t really care about the rest. I’ve often said that when voting, people should also provide answers on 3-4 major issues. This way the elected leaders can see what the voters really want rather than assuming each of their voters wanted EVERYTHING in their platform

The part to the media that bothers me the most is the corrections. The news will issue their story with false data which everyone reads and remembers….then a time after initial print, they realize the error and subtly correct it in the article with the only mention of the correction at the bottom of the page. Here’s a prime example https://www.google.ca/amp/s/beta.ctvnews.ca/national/coronavirus/2021/12/16/1_5709786.html Correction: A previous version of this article stated that the risk of contracting a serious side-effect after COVID-19 vaccination is less than one in a million. The correct figure, based on data reported to the Public Health Agency of Canada, is roughly one in 10,000. So the initial article left 99% of the readers thinking vaccination causes a serious side effect in one out of 1,000,000 yet the true number is actually 1 out of 10,000. No wonder why people are so misinformed!!

Just to be clear…I support the truckers cause and reasoning but I will never support a blockade

It was meant to sound stupid and sarcastic just like Aristedes comment about the unvaccinated should have just sucked it up and got the shot. Perhaps it was lost on you??

You know if the people of Ottawa didn’t want to hear honking, they could have just moved. Right????

We’re talking spread not hospitalizations. Kids make up a large portion of the cases and are counted as Unvaccinated. If you want to remove them then the percentages would be even closer

Why. Do they not count for cases?

Ive shown you the simple math. 76% from 80%. Not worthy of a mandate

Sure. I’m fine with things evolving as long as you acknowledge the change and acknowledge if and when you were wrong. Omicron changed the game but some people act like nothing is different even when the numbers show otherwise

76% of the cases from fully vaxxed. How exactly is that slowing down the spread?

Not peer reviewed. It’s a pre-print. I’d love to educate you on the difference but it would be a waste of time. In BC this week…76% of the cases are from the fully vaxxed who are 80% of the population. Other provinces show similar if not closer numbers yet you are insisting that draconian mandates are needed when there is no benefit. Again…stop lying

That’s where they fall back to semantics saying it reduces spread, not stop. Again, their goal posts have moved so many times that the field is covered in holes

And how much BA2 is out there. LMFAO

It always amazes me when people post shit that’s out of date. Your post is from Nov 23….well before Omicron. Things changed with Omicron. Maybe you should too

Wrong Barely right but nothing to brag about

I don’t agree with the blockades but I wouldn’t say they are appalling. There are a small minority of those involved doing appalling things but that happens with most protests. One still has to prove that the people doing those things are actually with the convoy

Exactly. Cases used to be the big talking point as there was a major difference but that became even. Hospitalizations are the same. They are closing the gap based on population which puts them to the new talking point of ICU. Even if they can show a subtle difference that can benefit the vaccinated, one must ask why they are bragging about it when vaccines are supposed to provide substantial benefit. It’s like the Edmonton Oilers bragging about beating a Pee Wee hockey team 3-2. Sure they can show they score more but they should never talk of a victory that shallow.

The sad thing is he has no interest in actually debating things honestly as it might lead to him learning something

Hospitalizations is not spread. You said vaccines reduce spread and now have flipped your story to hospitalizations. Your recent response shows that you are either completely ignorant to the differences or you are willfully lying which is a forum violation. Which is it?