French Patriot
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On 3/9/2024 at 9:30 AM, Gaétan said:
Money is just a tool invented by kings and crual dictators to enslave the population, we don't need that, all we have to do is to work free of charge and every body have what they need
You might have opened a decent issue for a change. Enslave is the wrong word though.
More like --ordered-- the socio economic demographic pyramid.
The first coin was called bread. We still call cash that even today.
Coins ware called that because a coin was worth a bushel of grain, which was kept and stored by the King, who minted it.
It was then used by the farmer to buy good and services, which included well respected Temple Prostitutes who recycled the coins back to the Kings coffers.
This rather decent system was great till the religious began to believe in a real supernatural realm.
That screwed everything up and divided the bright from the dim. Right wing/Left wing.
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12 hours ago, Gaétan said:
You do not dare touch the morals, hypocrite, and throw your fantasies at me instead.
Real adult that.
I repeat this to remind you of your running away from moral discussions.
All should know the weak and immoral Christian thinking and lurkers seeing you guys run away is having it's effect of discrediting Christianity.
Especially on LGBTQ+ issues.
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12 hours ago, Gaétan said:
Yes but the justice rules you apply to others applys to you, right? Then if you condemn others for their sins you'll be condemned for yours. Then there is no way you'll go anywere else than hell. Trust your god if you like, i don't.
Yes. Reciprocity is fair play.
As to condemning. I do not have such an ability. Have you?
What is your complaint about sin. You sing of it as a happy fault and necessary to God's plan.
Yahweh also put Satan in Eden to insure Eve ate.
Explain your talking out of both sides of your mouth.
As to hell. Only a faithless fool would think God does not create all souls perfect.
Your Bible is clear that God wills than none of us be lost.
He always gets to do his will and saves us all.
Right?
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On 3/22/2024 at 10:58 AM, blackbird said:
One is justified by faith alone. Read Romans.
God you do a lot of lying about God. Quite the legacy you leave.
Instead of reading Romans, why not put your stupid brain to work.
To create faith in you, stupid, takes a work of your mind, so the whole premise of "by faith alone", Is impossible.
Surely your not so stupid that you cannot see that clear fact.
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16 hours ago, blackbird said:
In other words, be responsible.
Made me laugh.
Except in the case of Jesus.
In his case you are to put your responsibility for your sins onto an innocent victim.
Instead of stepping up, you step back like a moral coward.
Quite a poor example for children.
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17 hours ago, Yakuda said:
Its true not everyone is saved but "Whoever believes AND is baptized..." will be according to Jesus.
Saved how?
Not by using Jesus as a messiah because that is quite an immoral offering on Jesus' part.
I have shown the moral arguments and Christians just run away from them like the moral cowards they are.
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17 hours ago, blackbird said:
However, not everyone is saved.
I would quote your Bible, that contradicts you, but you do not care about such things.
Your faith is good at ignoring facts.
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17 hours ago, Gaétan said:
If you apply the rules of justice of your god, you'll go to hell because he lives in hell and he wants you to go to joint him. With his rules noboby can escape from hell because everybody is a sinner anyway. The propaganda they put in your head is false.
You do not dare touch the morals, hypocrite, and throw your fantasies at me instead.
Real adult that.
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14 hours ago, Gaétan said:
Your god wants to punish you for your sins.
You are a liar. You do not have anything to prove your not lying.
Why punish sin though while at the same time you sing that Adam'ssin was a happy fault and necessary to God's plan.
What kind of hypocrite are you, talking out of both sides of your immoral mouth?
Let's chat morals. I can see you need help with those.
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2 minutes ago, Gaétan said:
Yahweh is not God but god
Too early for such stupidity. Learn English.
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12 hours ago, Gaétan said:
God is not a cunning politician who changes his opinion according to polls and fashion
Did Yahweh not bargain with Moses before he destroyed Sodom?
He sure did. Oops.
Yahweh has the same lying trait as most politicians and all preachers.
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16 hours ago, OftenWrong said:
Don't like it? Who you gonna call?
You are the only one who can change what you do not like.
As we evolve, we will deal with whatever reality we are born into. Evolution is the ability and tools to deal with whatever is found.
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3 hours ago, Gaétan said:
It is not realy God who condems you, it's yourself. If you don't accept the sins you commit towads others to be committed towards you, you are condemned. God applys your own condemnation. There can't be two justices, the rules of justice you apply to others apply to you. God just applys your own justice, not his but yours and it is what is the more just. If God would applys his own justice, everybody would go to the Kingdom but it wouldn't be just, what is just is that your rules of justice applys to you.
As an aside on Your God's justice. Care to engage? Or have you run away before?
On Jesus dying for Christians, from a moral perspective.
It takes quite an imagination and ego to think a god would actually die for us, after condemning us unjustly in the first place.
Christians have swallowed a lie and don’t care how evil they make Jesus to keep their feel good get out of hell free card.
It is a lie, first and foremost, because, like it or not, having another innocent person suffer or die for the wrongs you have done, --- so that you might escape responsibility for having done them, --- is immoral.
To abdicate your personal responsibility for your actions or use a scapegoat is immoral.
Christians also have to ignore what Jesus, as a Jewish Rabbi, would have taught his people.
Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
Deuteronomy 24:16 (ESV) "Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin.
Psa 49;7 None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him:
There is no way that Christians parents would teach their children to use a scapegoat.
Good morals and Jesus speak against the messianic concept and bids us pick up our crosses and follow him.
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3 hours ago, Gaétan said:
It is not realy God who condems you, it's yourself. If you don't accept the sins you commit towads others to be committed towards you, you are condemned. God applys your own condemnation. There can't be two justices, the rules of justice you apply to others apply to you. God just applys your own justice, not his but yours and it is what is the more just. If God would applys his own justice, everybody would go to the Kingdom but it wouldn't be just, what is just is that your rules of justice applys to you.
Good. My justice is superior to you genocidal LGBTQ+ hating proick of a God.
Your God is said to make all souls perfect. You are not believing this.
Strange how Christians have to condition themselves to hate so many of their own children, should they not be born matching the thinking of their immoral parents.
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17 hours ago, Gaétan said:
This is an unjustice but you are just if you agree that she slaps you.
Then there is nothing to forgive.
Thanks for showing though how you would let someone be repeatedly abused.
Christians. Sigh.
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3 hours ago, blackbird said:
Not all things are infallibly proven.
Correct.
Science is free, as you showed, to correct itself.
Religions generally and Christianity in particular are not free to correct their God.
When they do, they become the good Christians. Gnostic Christians.
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3 hours ago, blackbird said:
Assumptions don't make science false and don't make it true or factual. Assumptions are just that, assumptions.
What are talking serpents and donkeys and a water walking half breed chimera God, Jesus, who can water walk? Facts or fictions?
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3 hours ago, blackbird said:
That is an absurd comment and demonstrates your complete lack of knowledge of the Bible and of God. You are a created being and don't get to judge God who is eternal, almighty, all-knowing, and completely holy and righteous.
I see that you do not follow the good advice found in the Bible, even as you push it's genocidal and evil God.
Note these.
Gen3;22 Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil;
1 Thessalonians 5:21 Test all things; hold fast what is good.
I tested your version of God and condemned his sorry evil ass. All moral people will.
You know this as you always run from discussing morals.
You ended your statement with a bunch of lies, because you also ignore all the places in your bible that says that God id unknowable, unfathomable and is a mystery.
When you give God traits, your Bible calls you a liar.
If you thank Yahweh for creating you, instead of your now ashamed of your thinking parents, you are an ungrateful cad. They also sustained you for many years.
Perhaps they were too good to their ungrateful child.
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3 hours ago, blackbird said:
It is based on unproven assumptions.
Which assumption in particular are you looking at?
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4 hours ago, blackbird said:
But it has been refuted by a number of scientists.
This is an outright lie. A poor way to start a thread.
Our ongoing evolution can explain and justify the creation of the evil within that system.
You cannot explain and justify it if your God creates evil, which he does, given that God creates everything. Even all the evil. Right?
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6 hours ago, blackbird said:
God’s justice is evident in His dealings with humanity.
Indeed. That is how we know to condemn his sorry ass to hell.
Did you view that God on trial clip?
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10 hours ago, OftenWrong said:
Perhaps god is so different that we don't understand it.
If that is the case, then we should reject it's commands.
Do you put God above or below yourself?
God here I define as a best ideal, natural or supernatural or whatever you gives ther best rules and laws to live by.
Consider first, that you are an animal first, and anything else after your mental birth.
The God, or best ideal or type of an ant, is an ant.
The God, or best ideal or type of a lion, is a lion.
The God, or best ideal or type of a human being, is a human being.
We are natural and spiritual beings, not supernatural beings, and should thus follow a natural and spiritual religion, not a supernatural based religion.
Thoughts?
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12 hours ago, Gaétan said:
This is an unjustice but you are just if you agree that she slaps you.
It is quite the husband that will let his wife be slapped around.
Go away.
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On 3/16/2024 at 10:03 AM, Gaétan said:
I would like you to comment the justice at the original post, this is another subject.
Ok.
Do you agree with these Jews on their views of Yahweh's justice?
the way to heaven, abolish money
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The story of Job tell us that Satan does nothing without Yahweh's blessing.
That is clear by Yahweh giving Satan his power to deceive the whole world.
Yahweh gave Satan power over our belief in God himself.
Rather a stupid move that.