Michael Hardner

WRONG> Fifth.

Fourth, right ? That was your FOURTH post in a row ?

Or Wannabe Americans, I guess. I don't want to be American, but I'm glad that I'm knowledgeable about it. You shouldn't be "afraid" but shouldn't live in denial either. As an African American (not as an African) you have a much higher risk of Heart Failure. Stay away from fried food. And how's you're weight ? Again, I post because I care.

Wow. Then it's even older than I thought. Posting on a topic doesn't make one obsessed with it. View how many threads I have started on this topic and you'll see I'm no Mr. Canada.

Trying hard isn't a determinant of failure or success. They wouldn't. I only use 'Our Compliments' Peanut Butter. Now I don't expect you to know what that is, but if you didn't I wouldn't assume you knew "jack" about Canada. Good point. If it's done in minute amounts, it's fine. You're African-American, I thought, no ? If so, I hope you watch your junk food intake as your background is linked to higher risks of heart disease. Stay away from the burgers, B_C ! Motel 6 ! Nailed it.

Sorry, but you have yet to convince me that I stack up poorly against the average Yankee Jim or Jane. Episode ?!? I thought it was a movie ?!? Seriously, I don't even put Hollywood in the same league. Even people in France know a lot about Hollywood. We haven't determined that at all. If I were as fake or self-serving as him, I'd drown myself in a vat of peanut butter. It's quality, not quantity. Just because junk food is popular, doesn't mean its good for you. Mostly, I know what's best for you - which is to shut up and agree with me ! I am a rare poster in that I genuinely value conservative and liberal views, so you should treasure my contribution to your education here. You're welcome !

No. Why do you think that ? There's "popular" and there's "right" - those are different qualities. The graph provides the evidence, I think. As to why those laws exist, then the answer is that there are enough opponents to make those laws happen in some jurisdictions. But the smart money is on 'change'. Most of this marriage scaremongering happened between 2004-2006 if this map is accurate.

I believe you posted something about understanding things better after a dose of mushrooms ?

I thought he gave up the radio show ? I remember listening to it when he was on CNN and thought he said he was doing it less often. As to knowing "Jack" about America. Really ? Is the bar to knowing "Jack" about knowing how many programs Beck has on the air at the moment ? Really. Continue to pick at my knowledge of Americans. I'll let you know how my American friends do with your questions ok ? Seems to me that you're more intimidated by a Canadian that likes America than one who hates America. Let's see.... Star Wars right ? Actually, I can express my opinion as to what's 'good' and 'bad'. That's kind of what makes this site interesting - people's *opinions* - don't you think ? And - yes - I think Beck is bad and eagerly await his downfall. I'm glad you're past the idea that I want to censor people. Instead, I'd like people to determine something is bad on their own, or with some persuasive arguments, then to stop watching it. Once I've convinced you I only have 28 million or so more to convince. Or 14 million if you split the work with me.

Since you said 'please'.... I gladly serve you this.... Here's the Wiki link wherein it states: Note that we're talking about THIS century. In other words, people are alive now that will see global population decline. Ask yourself why this piece of ostensibly good news isn't widely known. There's no conspiracy afoot, it's just that bad news travels quickly and good news doesn't travel at all sometimes. A good friend of mine told me once that if you want religion to die, let it be practiced freely. The conflicts that come to us from countries with religious oppression are very old and rooted as much in ancient cultures as in religious structures IMO.

Here's the quote from Beck in USA Today: USA Today Weekend Edition It's on Page 3. If I was a Michael Moore fan, then found out that he had stock in General Dynamics and laughed at people who followed his books and movies, I think I would stop reading his books and watching his movies.

I see that you did provide a quote - which I didn't see in the 'reply' box. [i take back the part where I said you misquoted Krugman - I was confused by a quote of his, followed by a quote of yours] He said Bush ISN'T racist. So I asked you to provide an example of a mainstream columnist calling Bush racist, and you did just the opposite.

Gore is embraced and Beck is vilified. Did I get that right ? Now - my question which you cut out of your quote: Now that I have stated that - as per your question - will you join me in condemning Beck's junk food information ? Here's one - there's another but I don't have time to find it: From USA Today Well, off the top of my head, I remember this beauty from Paul Krugman. Please give me a link and a quote on what he was talking about - whose support ? What was the issue ? It sounds like he was talking about something specific - that Bush did or said - that he categorized as racist. I would likely disagree with his example, but I would hope that he at least has an example. If not, I would lose a lot of respect for Mr. Krugman and his employer. Dan Rather wasn't a columnist, though. So...

It's "viewers" not listeners. I don't know why you say I have a patronizing opinion about them, and we already discussed the fact that I recognize Beck's right to speak. We mentioned it several times, and yet you're bringing it up again - and again, I say it's because you're running out of things to say. See above. Ok - can we now put to bed any idea that I'm calling for censorship, or legislation to shut down Beck ? That leaves only my point that Beck is a blithering idiot, whose views are ill considered and bad for America. Thank you. Try the veal.

I don't think I"m ignoring anything. Are you talking about this ?: I guess I don't know how that relates to the point expressed in the title of this thread and the OP. Yes, there are statutes against same-sex marriage - I'm aware of that.

That's not a reason for me to like Beck. I wouldn't be opposed to him on MLW, of course. I just think he has too many people listening to him, unappreciative of the junk information factor. I have a right to comment on America too. For that matter, I consider "America" to be both of our countries and the problems I ascribe to the US also exist in Canada. I post because I care, B_C, I care... I don't want to shut you up. Further to that - I would be sad if you left this board. You have a brain and you consider what you say far more than Beck appears to. Beck's rights aren't really germane here anyway, it's the rights of News Corporation to create a living puppet that seems to be a man and have him beam fake opinions from Coast to Coast.

Why is it important ? I think that it's interesting to watch the acceptance of this custom roll out and to watch barriers fall. Also, I do support it so it's gratifying for me to see it adopted. I'm not seeing vindication at all. I accept that people have the right to oppose this change, and I understand the reasons why but eventually that opposition will melt away and demographics is but one reason. This take you have on issues "Why is it important ?" is kind of self-indulgent isn't it ? We aren't obliged to post on issues that you like to talk about you know. I'm not sure what else you would mean by this - or if I have an equivalent pet peeve on right-of-centre issues but maybe you can think of one.

Why do you care about anything yourself ? Why are you posting on a Canadian board ? I'm here to express my opinion with people who care about issues, as are you. That's the best reason I can think of. My concern over Beck is because he's the worst, and the next high-water mark for how bad things are getting. I already explained that, and you're circling back because you are running out of new things to add.

Why are you bringing up Al Gore ? Where is my outrage ? Start a thread on Al Gore and I will express it there. Al Gore's incorrect statements are also to be condemned. Now that I have stated that - as per your question - will you join me in condemning Beck's junk food information ? It was quoted in USA Today in February. I read it myself. In it's purist form, what you're doing is akin to moral relativism, i.e. nothing is "right" or "wrong" it's just that some people like it or do not. Lying is "ok" if you "like" lying. Find me a mainstream journalist who called GW Bush a racist, and that wasn't forced to resign or was severely admonished for that. I don't think any of them even said that. Wait - Krugman is a journalist though. Are you disagreeing with Bush_Cheney and Beck himself by saying Beck IS a journalist ?

Well, I don't apologize for focusing on the US and Canada, no. Comparing Canada to the US is a pretty normal thing to do, isn't it ? In any case, the intention wasn't to single out the US but rather to point out that support for GM is stronger amongst aging demographics in the US and Canada. Who knows what it is in Yemen and who cares ?

Actually, the models show that population growth is decelerating. That means the earth will level off in population. The US and Canada have disputed their borders in the past, as have Canada and Greenland. Compare that to Ireland/England or the Middle East conflicts. I say that newer conflicts tend to have shallower roots.

I concur. Of course he can. So... he's not the same thing then. Got it. And the rest of us can point to other measures for what means right for health: such as obesity rates, cholesterol levels. How do we do that for information ? Ask how many people in a country believe in leprechauns ? Ask them what their nation's capital is ? Once and for all: I'm not arguing that Beck is unpopular. In fact, if he were unpopular I wouldn't care so much about the bilge he sprays from his mouth-nozzle every day at 5 pm. I'm arguing that it's probably unhealthy, just as a Mars bar is. Now, someone can eat a Mars bar once a week or so and it doesn't do much damage but eating 20 a day and nothing else... that's another matter. You don't care, though. You want to argue about something else, and I'm asking for help on how to define the problem I want to talk about.

Yes, popular doesn't equate to right. I'm not confused at all. I didn't say that it's right or wrong to support gay marriage. To be clear - I do expect that there's more opposition elsewhere.

You don't agree that gay marriage is less popular in the US ? I based that on studies that I read a few years' back when this was a hotter topic. Interesting idea. Do you have a link ? In any case, this does make sense.

You keep drawing the equation that popular=better, it seems. That means McDonald's is nutritious food then as well, I suppose. You say "Beck is not a journalist", yet in response to my point "You honestly can't put Beck beside newscasts and say "see it's the same thing" " you replied "yes he can". Answer the question, Bushy, is junk food real food or not ? Make up your mind. Does popular mean right or not ?